It steamy unhinged letters usint his own body fluids. So for schiff today was vote was thrilling and only a way a psychiatrist could appreciate. Watch it here watch as he pretends it was not in fact the best day of his whole life. This is a solemn day in the history of our country. When the president has misconduct has compelled us to continue to move forward with an impeachment inquiry, we take no joy in having to move down this road and proceed with the impeachment inquiry. But neither do we shrink from it. Tucker we take no joy. Of all the many lies told at public expense in washington, d. C. , and there aree many, that may be the most hilariously brazen of all in at least a generation for those of you keeping track at home. In fact, for democrats, impeachment is like winning the lotto on christmas, but honestly, seriously, believe us now, we are not enjoying it, not even a little bit. We are praying for you and for the president. Okay. Thats not real. What israel is at the public is not loving it quite as much as adam schiff is. New polling appears to show support for impeachment in some decline. It is possible that voters are simply confusedin by whats happening. What exactly are the charges here . How do we go from disliking trump to trying to remove them by force, seemingly overnight . Who exactly is this whistleblower who apparently started it all . We still dont know the answer to those, the most basic questions. Last night the site real clear investigations published an article about the man it says is the was a blower. Schiffs office has not deny the substance of that piece, publicly available information corroborates some of the details in it. A remarkable story in any case. The man is a registered democrat who worked on the National Security council as a holdover from the obama administration. Over the years he worked for both joe biden and disgraced cia director john brennan. A news article from 2017 identifies this same man as proukraine and antirussia. He says he was the subject of bitter complaints from some republicans who knew him. In other words, more than two years ago, conservatives were publicly charging that this man was working from inside the building to undermine the trump administration. According to the real clear investigations piece last night, they were i right. The men worked as a professional leftwing activist, he also held meetings with adam schiffs staff members, several of them wore his former colleagues from the obama white house. And tonight we can tell youm it seems likely that this man, the man in question, was also a source for Robert Muellers investigation, his russia investigation. What appears to be the mans name can be found in a footnote in the final report. Keep in mind that just a week ago the New York Times praised the whistleblower, whoever he is as a patriotic public servant. His aim, the paper told us, reassured us, was not to bring down mr. Trump out of personal or political animus, but to rescue the republic from his excesses. So if real clears piece last night is accurate, if the reporting is right, that framing is an utter lie. Virtually everything weve been told about the whistleblower would be misleading and intentionally so. It would be propaganda, like so much we hear. Is it . Only adam schiff can clear it up. He should do that immediately for the sake of restoring nfnfidence in the u. S. Government. He wont do that because it doesnt serve his political interests but in some ways it doesnt matter, we learned a lot from the peas anyway. Whether he was the socalled whistleblower or not, the man that real clear wrote about was a nakedly partisan political actor in what should be a nonpolitical position. His job is to protect the united states. Es he has spent his days trying to get his team elected. Thats wrong. Unfortunately, its not unusual. Just yesterday former deputy cia head John Maclachlan encouraged permanent bureaucrats here in washington to continue to subvert elected officials, the ones that work for. Thank god for the deep state. [laughter] [applause] i think everyone here has seen this progression of diplomats and Intelligence Officers and white house people trooping up to capitol hill right nowic and saying these are people who are doing their duty or responding to a higher call. Tucker is there anything that could shake the publics faith in this government more than a former cia, of alll agencies, cia official saying things like that . Telling us that subverting the will of voters is a higher call . Higher apparently than democracy itself. There are many other developments today in the ongoing impeachment saga and for those we are grateful to be joined tonight by Catherine Herridge, foxs chief intelligence correspondent and she is with us on the set, hey, catherine. Thanks. This witness seemed to have a sixth sense about the july 25th phone call about President Trump and the ukrainian president telling investigators today that he thought it would leak given washington entirely polarized environment and according to this testimony obtainedgh by fox news, tim morrison set up i want to be clear, i was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed. Morrison sat on the National Security council and has direct knowledge of the call and significantly, after allegations, the white house released transcript, was tampered with, morrison said today, to the best of my relevant to recollection, a short form for memorandum of the call accurately and completely reflects the substance of the call. After the call i probably asked the National SecurityCouncil Legal advisor and his deputy to review it. Morrison said he had no reason to believe the ukrainians knew the aide was suspended until late august and that timing matters because its five weeks after the president of austrias conversation with a president zelensky. And it was not Early September morrison said he believed the aide was tied to a Public Statement of ukraine reopening the investigation into the energy firm or hunter biden sat on the board, and for more context, that was just days later that the aide was released. A source familiar with the deposition said to fox today morrison undercut Lieutenant Colonel vindman, who has been described as a star witness for democrats, saying he was warnedd about vindmans judgment and on at least one occasion he said vindman, who began his army Service Nearly two decades ago, went outside the chain of command onon ukraine. Tucker amazing story. Rather than ask a followup ive never met a tv person who was less interested in talking about herself and then you are but i should say i should tell our viewers this is the last time you will be on our set because were moving on to cbs news, which is very lucky to have you and i just want to say out loud how much we will miss you and how gratefuluc we are to have had your expertise. If youre one of the people that our viewers trust one of the people who i trust to unravel ts happen, particularly what is complex. Youve been here for 23 years and i know our viewers have been watching this whole time but i could not resist, i know youre not going to hate this. Putting up a clip, a younger Catherine Herridge who looks the same, here she is. At her first news conference, senatorelect Hillary Clintons message was bipartisanship. The media glare will intensify when mrs. Clinton returns to washington, especially since shes laid out an ambitious legislate of agenda for herself. That the headline right there thank you so much for showcasing the reporting here at fox news and taking it to a big audience in prime time. That has really matter to me. Tucker there have been many times when i called you because i trust what you say and our viewers were right to. Thanks for listening. Tucker thank you. Youre welcome. Tucker met romney ryan t know if you saw the open we just did, but im agnostic, i dont know exactly if this is the whistleblower or not. I know we learned an about a federal employee who is working as a political activist. What does that tell you about the way the city works . I would say there are a lot of people in d. C. This is kind of a clarifying moment for us over the last few years in ewhich i really do think a lot f these people find democracy terribly inconvenient, but this is the problem, we are in about a 100 year experiment but we have dropped an Administrative State into a Constitutional Republic and the problem is those inside the ministry of state, these powerful bureaucrats given immense powers now seem to think they are the ones making the decisions in this whole idea of a Constitutional Republic where the power flows from the people to their duly elected representatives is terribly inconvenient and kind of an archaic idea. Thats what we are really dealing with what you think about this person thats now been named by real clear investigations, the federal washington examiner, not only was he not a whistleblower, but a partisan political operative. He didnt just show up at the white house, he was detailed from the cia, he was not picked by random. I would argue he was there to represento brennans interest, the cia interest and if you take it to its full extent, again, i think this person was more of a confidential asset of John Brennans inside the white house. Tucker so unpack if you would, i like all your frameless, i think its interesting and true. You cant have, you said, and Administrative State in the middle of a democratic republic, what does that mean . It doesnt work. The administrator of state that the progressives have been pushing for the last hundred years is about consolidating power. Its about removing these o separations of power and powering unelected bureaucrats to be in charge of this massive bureaucracy, millions of employees, and given immense powers inside the surveillance state and law enforcement. At ate certain point, because ty have so much power because theyve been seated so much power by our representatives, by congress, they have started to think and almost rightfully so, that they are the ones making the decisions and then donald trump shows up and goes wait a minute, thats not how this works. In a Constitutional Republic eye is the duly elected president im the one that decides to mr. Policy, i decide Foreign Policy and these players inside the administrative say not so fast, we dont think so. If thats what all of this ison about. Tucker so what about when the next guy shows up. What if Elizabeth Warren is elected president . Presumably her views will be in line with most people in the administered estate but maybe not all. Is she going to become is any comfortable stomach resident ever going to be comfortable again with the government that would just watch for the last three years try to unseat the guy in charge of it if it doesnt like him . This is the amazing point, they are willing to destroy all sorts of norms and undermine the duly elected president of the united states, again because they think they are in power and i would argue everyone, right, left, democrat, republican, should be concerned at this massive abuse of power and the only way you get this fact, the only way you can get this back into proper alignment and actually resort trust in some of these institutions like o the dj and the cia and the fbi, there has to be consequences. I am a freight talker if there are not consequences, what comes next for the next president regardless of democrat or republican . There has to bedent consequenced how you restore trust, you actually have consequences that actually means something. People go to jail, people have their security clearance permanent and revoked. They have to be shamed or sent to jail, thats how you have consequences to restore trust and to put things back into the proper balance. Tucker i think ive been here too long, call me cynical but after 35 years ive concluded you had Paul Manafort lobby for ukraine, hes likely to spend the rest of his life in prison. Tony podesta, close friend of the clintons did the same. Hes in italy right now laughing at you. So i dont know. I will believe it when i see it. When anyone on the left is held accountable for anything i will be surprised but happy. This o is the problem we hav, we have a bifurcated legal system and if you do not have the right political connections with the right political views he will have the book thrown at you. You have the right connections you get a pass, but the real problem for a republic. Tucker a real problem, i would say. Great to see you tonight. Jean pinero Jeanine Pirro tht to remake america. Shes very busy so when she can come here we are grateful to have her. So we are not, as you juste noted, i havent given the guys name, not absolutely certain hes the whistleblower, appears to g be but i dont have confirmation, schiff knows. We are all under this kind of pressure to protect the identity of thehe whistleblower because why exactly . Yeah, well i havent figured that out because as you think about it, barack obama fired the whistleblower in fast and furious and in terms of whistleblowers, they change the loss of this whistleblower could report on hearsay. They just changed that within the last year because before a whistleblower couldnt be a whistleblower and unlesser he r she was directly a part of the conversation. So they change it look, thiss is all part of a playbook. Its a narrative. This isf russia collusion all over again. If we are going to dos ukraine collusion and we now have a brennan acolyte, you got someone who loves susan rice, worked with susan rice, brennan, and a whole lot of them and schiff, this is a redo of russia collusion and you know what the frustrating part of it is . The frustrating part is when you say will we ever see people go out in coughs . Thats what i did for 30 years. Thats law order. The reason that this president is facing it unlike any other president before is because donald trump is the outsider president that the forgotten men and women in america put in the oval office. He is not part of the establishment. Hes not one of the guys its going to slap one guy on the back and then say hey, we are all set. Hes there to protect us and so the rules are going to be different. Nancy pelosi is going to say im not doing impeachment unless its bipartisan and today the vote is all democrats except two who went with the republicans. Every republican said no. And we are going to go forward with a due process its a stain on congress. Adam schiff decides who gets called, the extent of cross examination. This should be in judiciary, they are still having private hearings, its a joke. And final point on that. We want to tell me what a policy difference over a policy belief has to do with high crime and misdemeanor . A democrat could have a different policy making decision. This is not something to impeach someone on. Tucker we are allowed to disagree. It may be hes got a different view on russia. I happen to have that view. Adam schiff called me an agent of vladimir putin. I have to he did . Tucker he did. Speaking of the degradation of our legal system, i asked school fairly recently about Jeffrey Epstein and heres what you said. We kept the tape. I have tried cases that willistons suicide and ive got a homicide conviction, so they werent suicides, they were intentional murders. And secondly, the breaking of a hyoid bone, ive tried strange elation cases, thats class against regulation, not in a hanging. Tucker so it turns out youre not alone in thinking that. Forensic pathologist hired by epsteins brother says the evidence suggests he didnt kill himself. The injuries to his neck he says are more consistent with strangulation. And then today, the totally discredited but still sort of interesting mayor of new york city, bill de blasio bill de blasio my own medical examiner. What do you make of this . First of all, why was the medical examiner in such a rush within five days to make a decision that its suicide as opposed to she could have hasaid it was you know, it ws under it was being investigated. We got five investigations, we are prisons, attorney general, fbi, Inspector General and i forget what the fifth one is in this pathologist says its suicide. How do you know its suicide . Wasnt everybody asleep . Werent the cameras not working . Why was his cellmate removed . You want to tell me why this guy was suicidal . Six days ago not suicidal. I could go on and on. Tucker put open up in a minute and a half we have, open up this world that most of us have never lived in but you spent decades there, why would a medical examiner rush to judgment like this one of the pressures that could come to bear on a medical examiner . Look, i dont know the medical examiner, i dont know her situation and its better i dont t know her but i can tell you this, im not surprised that another medical examiner would say what t i said because i spet 30 years in law enforcement. I tried homicide cases, when that hyoid bonefo is busted and the thyroid cartilage is busted, it cant be busted from hanging with the sheet, which by the way we still dont have the dna from the sheet that he used apparently, if it is a suicide, and for them to say that that is part of a suicide hanging, thats ridiculous. Its not a suicide. Hyoid being broken is a classic intentional homicide killing. And by the way, epstein said a few days earlier he said look, my cellmate tried to beat the hell out of me. I know the guy, he was from westchester, he beat everybody up. Dennis is ahe brother says can i get a copy of the report. Tucker i know a guy, hes from westchester, he beats everybody up cant even get the report of the assault in that room. Why are they hiding . What are they worried about . Tucker and asked the question because if not simple about the death of one man. Its really a referendum on the people were running things. How rotten is the system . That someone could get murdered and they cover it up . Im not alleging thats what happened but there are questions, as you said, and i think its worth following, which we will continue doing hope you join us. Thanks for joining us tonight. Id love to. Thanks. Tucker easy to see why theyre telling you that ukraine is the most important storyry ther