Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Your World With Neil Cavuto 2016121

He lacks the necessary stability. And cheerly the respect of the constitution of our great nation. You have a decision. The authority. And opportunity to go down in the books as american hero. Who changed the course of history. Never mind that donald trump won a constitutionally man deaded e mandated election, many in hollywood are not about to let that happen and if they can influence to make sure it doesnt happen, this personal pitch to the 538 electors gathering next monday to decide on who will become the next president will be their final, well, cell. To former white house top strategist, karl rove. I thought i heard it all when i talked to Bill Richardson or Christine Pelosi, we just want to put it out there about the russian involvement in at the election but this is another step, bigger step, hollywood saying this isnt about russia. This is about you Holding Faith to what Alexander Hamilton would have wanted which would not be donald trump. If say this with due respect for the Great Service to our country of president martin sheen, and im grateful for james cromwell, the First Contact with aliens who gave us faster than light travel. Im enthusiastic about the heroism of noah wiley and saving us from alien but who cares . This is completely phony. What theyre asking people to do is to ignore the votes of millions of people in their states who aselected them also electors and to flake off and vote for somebody else in order to throw this to the house of representatives, which will then turn around and vote for donald trump if this were ever to happen and there will be one, one, maybe two, faithless electors and one could well be somebody who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton. This is goofy, part of a leftwing group called unite america, and it is a bunch of leftwingers. Have no respect whatsoever for martin sheen. He is lecturing us. You notice if you see the video, constantly going like this, and he looks like a lunatic. He is a lunatic. I dont have a i dont have an impartial view. He called president bush but amore ron, mass murderer, all the people around him in his cabinet and staff despised one another because wherever they looked they only saw worth reflections of himself. This guy is a lunatic and the fact that somebody put up good money to put him on television to make this lunatic peas to get people to do do something they will not due to undermind peoples confidence in the incoming president of the United States is a sign our desperate the left is and hour irresponsible they if. Ill put this down as a maybe. Strong messannage to fall. It comes at a time when so many are doing anything and everything they possibly can in a hail mary pass to stop the inevitable or planted so of doubt of the outcome, whether its russia, and even whether our intelligence agencies are not the same page, and the want them to flip the results. But even if even give Hillary Clinton elected. They wont get hillary. Thats the point. The republican state that voted the best you can do is not vote for him but to the is back in the house where it would be a republican. So even the method to this madness doesnt make sense. Exactly right. And look, their goal is not to defeat donald trump. They know that never going to hey happen. It is more insid you and dangerous and thats to undermine the peoples ongoing confidence in at the president elect. I remember people like paul begala and others in 2000 and 2001 saying president bush is not legitimately elected president of the United States. They were trying to undo the results of a constitution constitutionally established and run elect and undermine the peoples confidence in the sitting president. Remember the criticism of much mcconnell saying who years after barack obama was a selected office, we have given up trying to work with the go. Know well just work on defeating the guy. Thisafter receiving this luck tours how donald trump had to accept the results, now a lot of these same leftwingers are out there trying to do what they can do to weaken our country by unnecessarily undermining the incoming president of the United States. Plenty im time for politics. This is the moment we should be unified. This is not the president bartlett i now. Something happened to him. Once he left office and lost the sense of power, no longer flies around on air force one. I had this kindrid thing, he was be bedeviled. And the guy who gave us faster thanlight travel, and noah wiley. Its beyond me. A lot of things shattered. My youthful ideal rhythm idealism is gone. And Christine Pelosi calling for a briefing on this alleged fbi hacking. Take a listen. If 80,000 people voted differently she lost, she lost. No. Are you say they should just be aware of their influence or switch allegiance to donald trump because of this . I think you have to ask the republican electors what theyre going to do. Well, thats what well. We have one withs, Michigan Republican elector, jim rhodes. Thank you for having me. Youve are under a lot of pressure, young man. Do you feel it . What kind of thank you, young man. Ive gotten over 60,000 emails that interfered with my business. Im getting them three, four, five a minute. I go through them every merge, get up early and delete a ton of them. A stack of letters, you can see this laundrys basket killed with letters. What are theyre telling you. Call knowing change my vote, which im a strong supporter and strong advocate for the president elect. And support him in the general election and the primary. And theyre asking me just to change my vote, and by law, not not by law, by what they state requires of me, im obligated to support the president elect of my state, michigan. Im peeking for the voters of the state, and im not going to change my vote, and on the way over to the studio here i got three or four calls is that right . Yeah. And now im a belong to an organization and the these people are calling that organization and saying, hey, we need jim rhodes phone number. Im an old, lost friend from high school. And the chairman of our district called me last night and said someone claimed to have gone to high school with me and wasnt even the same city i went to high school in. So its i thought only we pulled that off to get interviews. The one thing i was surprised at. Donald trump won michigan by 10,000, 11,000 votes so its pretty clear and shocking to democrats a republican won michigan, but the argument behind this hollywood pitch is it different than the others, it has nothing to do with russian hacking or influenced the election results, but theyre saying you have sort of a personal, conscientious duty to rethink what the voters in your state did. What do you say to that . Thats pure. Care, youre on tv. Crap. Thats fine. Im not intimidated by any of this stuff. Ive been riding harleys since the 60s, so ive been around a long time. Im a grassroots political animal. Ive always been conservative. Im a constitutionalist. And i love what trump says, and hes about to me fired up, looking for great things and looking to make America Great again. Do you know whether any of your colleagues or fellow electors in michigan i think are there are 15 ors or elsewhere across at the country are feeling this pressure . One in texas, republican, there might be others for all i know. Heard anything . Ive heard that there may be a couple in texas and colorado being two of them but i dont think theres any concern in michigan. Were all pretty steadfast and were doing our duty. Our duty is to support the voters of michigan and vote for donald j. Trump and that what i can do. People can call me, they can write to me, its a waste of time for them. I expect that its going to get even more pressure over the weekend, but, hey, im a big boy. Can take care of myself. Apparently. Jim, let me ask you about that. The touched on the first wave of attacks to get elector toes like you to witch from those who to switch from those who are saying the russians hacked their way into the ickes lyrics and might they decent go this far altered the results. Have you heard anything from that intelligence or or headlins that makes you think that Hillary Clinton won this election and that as a result you should rote for hillary . Well, let me see. My answer is no. Period. Fuff said. When anywhere raising this now we since discovered after Christine Pelosi and bill righthandson was telling me the opposite, that this is not universal by thought of in the Intelligence Community that russia was hacking the a leaks alone. What if you had information that russia might have gone that far, that their interference did affect the results . Seems extremely unlikely to me. Didnt see any proof of that. But theyre pitching that possibility in the attempt to try to get guys like you to switch. Would you if you no, i wouldnt would not because i dont believe it. Hillary clinton didnt seem to be too concern when her email got supposedly hacked by the russians, and now all of a sudden everybody is putting all this pressure. The facts their facts. Nothing to do with facebook, nothing to do with emails, it has nothing to do with the the russian involvement. Hillary had no message, nothing positive to say, her history is terrible. You can go back to her involvement in the watergate hearing, being removed for being unethical. Her involvement with benghazi. Ive spoke to one of the people that helped get our people out of benghazi after they were murdered. Youre not likely to switch. But do you ever get threatened . Anyone ever upped the ante to ive had a couple of insinuations, ill just say. But not going to intimidate me. My wife is a little concerned. My daughters are a little concerned. My son is with me. He says do whatever you want, dad. Good for them and good for you. Jim rhodes, thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you for the pleasure of being here. All right. Very good to have you. Jim rhodes, michigan g. O. P. Elector and while there might be one or two others who may be pressured to change, jim doesnt strike me as one who would. But thats just me. Im taking a leap here. We didnt get to the 20,000 on the dow. Were getting closer, though. Heavy advance today. 60 points work. Still 748points. We have gotten win 45 points. What is remarkable going on with the dollar. Its the highest it has been, more than a decade. Thats remarkable, because the dow is populated by big stocks, big companies. That would be hurt like that. More after this. You got it what do you think . If youre going to wish, wish big at the lexus december to remember sales event get up to 2500 customer cash on select 2016 and 2017 models for these terms. See your lexus dealer. Whats the best way to get v8 or a fancy juice store . S . Ready, go hi, juice universe . One large rutabaga, with eggplant. Done thats not fair. Glad i had a v8. The original way to fuel your day. We were gunning for 20,000 today. Looked like we were there and i suggest this Little Exchange might have taken a little icing off the buying cake. Have you agreed on the size of the stimulus youll ask for . Well, no. I think were probably going to lead with Obamacare Repeal and then replace, then youll have task well have a small tax reform package and then a bigger tax reform package at the end of april. All right. So, the latter part of that got my interest, a small tax reform package, followed by a bigger tax preform package. What that means. It would be in april, within the 100 days of a new administration, got new thinking that maybe, maybe the rollout that washington is looking forward to or folks are looking forward to out of washington, and big tax cuts and guns ablazing that is responsible authorize this bigun of stocks big runup of stocks that the market may be ahead of itself. To scott martin. I was reading that. Is that Reince Priebus way to telegraph theyre dialing things back . Tempering expectations. I it was the word at that time was poorly chosen there, which is small, because youre right, americans vote for a lot of change and voted for tax reform and ram fission indications ram fission ramifications so tax changes done spike the market. Most spending is Consumer Spending so if mom and pop are paying as much as the did before youll see the market suffer. The argument is that washington reality is the thing that hits the pavement, and maybe dreams die there. I dont like to think thats necessarily the case, especially since the republicans control the white house and both chambers of congress, but if youre predialing things back im making this leap but i heard Mitch Mcconnell say that tax cuts have to be revenue neutral. That by definition would shrink their side out the gate. I dont know. Im worried. Its an interesting position. Now issue dont know if this hays anything to do with kanye west to roll it back i didnt think of kanye. Youre right. He is behind everything that is going on outside our doors these days help has control. Heres the thing. 2018 is already coming up on us. Sound crazy but those are the midterm elects and the republicans dont have a huge lead in congress here so you have to really come out of the gate, guns ablazing to get this stuff through before theres a block put in 201 with the midterms. For the market and this impressive runup we had a record and then eased back. We made up half the losses from yesterday so a strong dollar. Fears of Interest Rates going up, maybe a lot more smartly than earlier thought, not weighing on these guys so they seem quite bullish . Are how in. I am for a moment. Im worried about what the fed said which is expectations of a higher Interest Rate environment which will hurt stocks iwell see. We have always wondered what happened last may to the egypt airplane that left paris, crashed into the mediterranean. Were getting disturbing details that explosive or something indicating explosives were found on the victims of the crash. Joining us now, dr. Gorka. What do you make of this . It would almost indicate terror was involved, but tell us what you know. Well, what we know is we already had the evidence that there was some kind of fire onboard. We have recordings of the pilots combating some kind of fire, also reports that the telemetry or the internal sensors detected some kind of conflagration in a restroom. So we knew that already. Now we have reports that the french investigators found some kind of trace elements of explosives on the victims or some of the bodies that were recovered. So, this opens up a whole new avenue of investigation. The egyptians said if such evidence is found it becomes a criminal investigation and not just a crash investigation. There have been complaints about the transparency or openness of the egyptian authorities, but it would seem that this is more and more likely a manmade terrorist attack. Now, we dope know what the airline itself has said. I know they were, to your point early on we chatted soon after that crash they werent exactly volunteering a lot of information but Something Like this opens up more disturbing possibilities that, a. , had a thing for planes and, b. , targeting a legion of the world that is risky. You look at the circumstantial evidence it looks more and more as if this would be some kind of jihady plat. You look at the fact its a flight from paris to egypt, those two nations by themselves are on top of the target list. Americas number one for jihadis but the irs has to make sure you get your expenses right. Who checks on them . Living the high life on your dime and a tab that you will not believe. We are back in 60 expensive seconds. On electors can work both ways, including in colorado. A state that went for Hillary Clinton in popular vote. Now the republican secretary of state is warning democratic electors they could face a perjury charge if they vote for anyone but clinton, the view being the will of the people in colorado was Hillary Clinton and you electors will vote accordingly. Keeping to the spirit of the electors won by a candidate have to vote for that candidate. Why would this be in dispute . Well, 29 states, as everybody has been explaining, require the voters. 21 states say you dont have to, leading into that reckless or rogue elector analysis. The point is in the 29 states, neil, where you have to vote as the voters directed, its a misdemeanor not to. Already a criminal offense inch colorado, which has that law the law you have to vote with the will of the people. Exactly. But the state official is saying, we may also tag you with perjury charge. Perjury is swearing an oath to tell the truth and then not telling the truth. Here youre swearing youll follow the voters but the defense would be, wait a minute, at the time i swore my oath i intended to vote that way and then i changed myman. My view legally is the misdemeanors that exists would be the only charge and x my understanding nobody has if been charged with a misdemeanor. Working off of your earlier guests, its a nonissue on many levels dish. Unless a lot of electors switch sides, the left or right. Having said that, the states that dont have that come sector, they can vote their conscious, how real is that, how legal is that, and how often do we see that . Well, yeah. Thats a great question. The opinion is, you have to look at that from a Straight League standpoint and then historical standpoint. Historically, very, very few, 157 in 200 years so no real historical support thats going to happen. The last thing anybody wants to do in this election, however, is making a definitive prediction. Really, neil, im not kidding. The point is, i dope expect that youre going to see the type of numbers but then you get into theweeds if theres a dispute over what the electors have didnt. If theres a tie it goes to the house of representatives for president , and the senate for vice president. Congress still has the right to turn around and dispute that, okay, in the my goodness. In which case it goes back to the secretary of state of the particular state. So this would be a real constitutional crisis, in my opinion, if this happened. There are so many weird possibilities. Absolutely. Doug, good chatting. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Well, for a lot of democrats they cant seem the wrestle with how it is that Bill Richardson<\/a> or Christine Pelosi<\/a>, we just want to put it out there about the russian involvement in at the election but this is another step, bigger step, hollywood saying this isnt about russia. This is about you Holding Faith<\/a> to what Alexander Hamilton<\/a> would have wanted which would not be donald trump. If say this with due respect for the Great Service<\/a> to our country of president martin sheen, and im grateful for james cromwell, the First Contact<\/a> with aliens who gave us faster than light travel. Im enthusiastic about the heroism of noah wiley and saving us from alien but who cares . This is completely phony. What theyre asking people to do is to ignore the votes of millions of people in their states who aselected them also electors and to flake off and vote for somebody else in order to throw this to the house of representatives, which will then turn around and vote for donald trump if this were ever to happen and there will be one, one, maybe two, faithless electors and one could well be somebody who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton<\/a>. This is goofy, part of a leftwing group called unite america, and it is a bunch of leftwingers. Have no respect whatsoever for martin sheen. He is lecturing us. You notice if you see the video, constantly going like this, and he looks like a lunatic. He is a lunatic. I dont have a i dont have an impartial view. He called president bush but amore ron, mass murderer, all the people around him in his cabinet and staff despised one another because wherever they looked they only saw worth reflections of himself. This guy is a lunatic and the fact that somebody put up good money to put him on television to make this lunatic peas to get people to do do something they will not due to undermind peoples confidence in the incoming president of the United States<\/a> is a sign our desperate the left is and hour irresponsible they if. Ill put this down as a maybe. Strong messannage to fall. It comes at a time when so many are doing anything and everything they possibly can in a hail mary pass to stop the inevitable or planted so of doubt of the outcome, whether its russia, and even whether our intelligence agencies are not the same page, and the want them to flip the results. But even if even give Hillary Clinton<\/a> elected. They wont get hillary. Thats the point. The republican state that voted the best you can do is not vote for him but to the is back in the house where it would be a republican. So even the method to this madness doesnt make sense. Exactly right. And look, their goal is not to defeat donald trump. They know that never going to hey happen. It is more insid you and dangerous and thats to undermine the peoples ongoing confidence in at the president elect. I remember people like paul begala and others in 2000 and 2001 saying president bush is not legitimately elected president of the United States<\/a>. They were trying to undo the results of a constitution constitutionally established and run elect and undermine the peoples confidence in the sitting president. Remember the criticism of much mcconnell saying who years after barack obama was a selected office, we have given up trying to work with the go. Know well just work on defeating the guy. Thisafter receiving this luck tours how donald trump had to accept the results, now a lot of these same leftwingers are out there trying to do what they can do to weaken our country by unnecessarily undermining the incoming president of the United States<\/a>. Plenty im time for politics. This is the moment we should be unified. This is not the president bartlett i now. Something happened to him. Once he left office and lost the sense of power, no longer flies around on air force one. I had this kindrid thing, he was be bedeviled. And the guy who gave us faster thanlight travel, and noah wiley. Its beyond me. A lot of things shattered. My youthful ideal rhythm idealism is gone. And Christine Pelosi<\/a> calling for a briefing on this alleged fbi hacking. Take a listen. If 80,000 people voted differently she lost, she lost. No. Are you say they should just be aware of their influence or switch allegiance to donald trump because of this . I think you have to ask the republican electors what theyre going to do. Well, thats what well. We have one withs, Michigan Republican<\/a> elector, jim rhodes. Thank you for having me. Youve are under a lot of pressure, young man. Do you feel it . What kind of thank you, young man. Ive gotten over 60,000 emails that interfered with my business. Im getting them three, four, five a minute. I go through them every merge, get up early and delete a ton of them. A stack of letters, you can see this laundrys basket killed with letters. What are theyre telling you. Call knowing change my vote, which im a strong supporter and strong advocate for the president elect. And support him in the general election and the primary. And theyre asking me just to change my vote, and by law, not not by law, by what they state requires of me, im obligated to support the president elect of my state, michigan. Im peeking for the voters of the state, and im not going to change my vote, and on the way over to the studio here i got three or four calls is that right . Yeah. And now im a belong to an organization and the these people are calling that organization and saying, hey, we need jim rhodes phone number. Im an old, lost friend from high school. And the chairman of our district called me last night and said someone claimed to have gone to high school with me and wasnt even the same city i went to high school in. So its i thought only we pulled that off to get interviews. The one thing i was surprised at. Donald trump won michigan by 10,000, 11,000 votes so its pretty clear and shocking to democrats a republican won michigan, but the argument behind this hollywood pitch is it different than the others, it has nothing to do with russian hacking or influenced the election results, but theyre saying you have sort of a personal, conscientious duty to rethink what the voters in your state did. What do you say to that . Thats pure. Care, youre on tv. Crap. Thats fine. Im not intimidated by any of this stuff. Ive been riding harleys since the 60s, so ive been around a long time. Im a grassroots political animal. Ive always been conservative. Im a constitutionalist. And i love what trump says, and hes about to me fired up, looking for great things and looking to make America Great<\/a> again. Do you know whether any of your colleagues or fellow electors in michigan i think are there are 15 ors or elsewhere across at the country are feeling this pressure . One in texas, republican, there might be others for all i know. Heard anything . Ive heard that there may be a couple in texas and colorado being two of them but i dont think theres any concern in michigan. Were all pretty steadfast and were doing our duty. Our duty is to support the voters of michigan and vote for donald j. Trump and that what i can do. People can call me, they can write to me, its a waste of time for them. I expect that its going to get even more pressure over the weekend, but, hey, im a big boy. Can take care of myself. Apparently. Jim, let me ask you about that. The touched on the first wave of attacks to get elector toes like you to witch from those who to switch from those who are saying the russians hacked their way into the ickes lyrics and might they decent go this far altered the results. Have you heard anything from that intelligence or or headlins that makes you think that Hillary Clinton<\/a> won this election and that as a result you should rote for hillary . Well, let me see. My answer is no. Period. Fuff said. When anywhere raising this now we since discovered after Christine Pelosi<\/a> and bill righthandson was telling me the opposite, that this is not universal by thought of in the Intelligence Community<\/a> that russia was hacking the a leaks alone. What if you had information that russia might have gone that far, that their interference did affect the results . Seems extremely unlikely to me. Didnt see any proof of that. But theyre pitching that possibility in the attempt to try to get guys like you to switch. Would you if you no, i wouldnt would not because i dont believe it. Hillary clinton didnt seem to be too concern when her email got supposedly hacked by the russians, and now all of a sudden everybody is putting all this pressure. The facts their facts. Nothing to do with facebook, nothing to do with emails, it has nothing to do with the the russian involvement. Hillary had no message, nothing positive to say, her history is terrible. You can go back to her involvement in the watergate hearing, being removed for being unethical. Her involvement with benghazi. Ive spoke to one of the people that helped get our people out of benghazi after they were murdered. Youre not likely to switch. But do you ever get threatened . Anyone ever upped the ante to ive had a couple of insinuations, ill just say. But not going to intimidate me. My wife is a little concerned. My daughters are a little concerned. My son is with me. He says do whatever you want, dad. Good for them and good for you. Jim rhodes, thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you for the pleasure of being here. All right. Very good to have you. Jim rhodes, michigan g. O. P. Elector and while there might be one or two others who may be pressured to change, jim doesnt strike me as one who would. But thats just me. Im taking a leap here. We didnt get to the 20,000 on the dow. Were getting closer, though. Heavy advance today. 60 points work. Still 748points. We have gotten win 45 points. What is remarkable going on with the dollar. Its the highest it has been, more than a decade. Thats remarkable, because the dow is populated by big stocks, big companies. That would be hurt like that. More after this. You got it what do you think . If youre going to wish, wish big at the lexus december to remember sales event get up to 2500 customer cash on select 2016 and 2017 models for these terms. See your lexus dealer. Whats the best way to get v8 or a fancy juice store . S . Ready, go hi, juice universe . One large rutabaga, with eggplant. Done thats not fair. Glad i had a v8. The original way to fuel your day. We were gunning for 20,000 today. Looked like we were there and i suggest this Little Exchange<\/a> might have taken a little icing off the buying cake. Have you agreed on the size of the stimulus youll ask for . Well, no. I think were probably going to lead with Obamacare Repeal<\/a> and then replace, then youll have task well have a small tax reform package and then a bigger tax reform package at the end of april. All right. So, the latter part of that got my interest, a small tax reform package, followed by a bigger tax preform package. What that means. It would be in april, within the 100 days of a new administration, got new thinking that maybe, maybe the rollout that washington is looking forward to or folks are looking forward to out of washington, and big tax cuts and guns ablazing that is responsible authorize this bigun of stocks big runup of stocks that the market may be ahead of itself. To scott martin. I was reading that. Is that Reince Priebus<\/a> way to telegraph theyre dialing things back . Tempering expectations. I it was the word at that time was poorly chosen there, which is small, because youre right, americans vote for a lot of change and voted for tax reform and ram fission indications ram fission ramifications so tax changes done spike the market. Most spending is Consumer Spending<\/a> so if mom and pop are paying as much as the did before youll see the market suffer. The argument is that washington reality is the thing that hits the pavement, and maybe dreams die there. I dont like to think thats necessarily the case, especially since the republicans control the white house and both chambers of congress, but if youre predialing things back im making this leap but i heard Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> say that tax cuts have to be revenue neutral. That by definition would shrink their side out the gate. I dont know. Im worried. Its an interesting position. Now issue dont know if this hays anything to do with kanye west to roll it back i didnt think of kanye. Youre right. He is behind everything that is going on outside our doors these days help has control. Heres the thing. 2018 is already coming up on us. Sound crazy but those are the midterm elects and the republicans dont have a huge lead in congress here so you have to really come out of the gate, guns ablazing to get this stuff through before theres a block put in 201 with the midterms. For the market and this impressive runup we had a record and then eased back. We made up half the losses from yesterday so a strong dollar. Fears of Interest Rates<\/a> going up, maybe a lot more smartly than earlier thought, not weighing on these guys so they seem quite bullish . Are how in. I am for a moment. Im worried about what the fed said which is expectations of a higher Interest Rate<\/a> environment which will hurt stocks iwell see. We have always wondered what happened last may to the egypt airplane that left paris, crashed into the mediterranean. Were getting disturbing details that explosive or something indicating explosives were found on the victims of the crash. Joining us now, dr. Gorka. What do you make of this . It would almost indicate terror was involved, but tell us what you know. Well, what we know is we already had the evidence that there was some kind of fire onboard. We have recordings of the pilots combating some kind of fire, also reports that the telemetry or the internal sensors detected some kind of conflagration in a restroom. So we knew that already. Now we have reports that the french investigators found some kind of trace elements of explosives on the victims or some of the bodies that were recovered. So, this opens up a whole new avenue of investigation. The egyptians said if such evidence is found it becomes a criminal investigation and not just a crash investigation. There have been complaints about the transparency or openness of the egyptian authorities, but it would seem that this is more and more likely a manmade terrorist attack. Now, we dope know what the airline itself has said. I know they were, to your point early on we chatted soon after that crash they werent exactly volunteering a lot of information but Something Like<\/a> this opens up more disturbing possibilities that, a. , had a thing for planes and, b. , targeting a legion of the world that is risky. You look at the circumstantial evidence it looks more and more as if this would be some kind of jihady plat. You look at the fact its a flight from paris to egypt, those two nations by themselves are on top of the target list. Americas number one for jihadis but the irs has to make sure you get your expenses right. Who checks on them . Living the high life on your dime and a tab that you will not believe. We are back in 60 expensive seconds. On electors can work both ways, including in colorado. A state that went for Hillary Clinton<\/a> in popular vote. Now the republican secretary of state is warning democratic electors they could face a perjury charge if they vote for anyone but clinton, the view being the will of the people in colorado was Hillary Clinton<\/a> and you electors will vote accordingly. Keeping to the spirit of the electors won by a candidate have to vote for that candidate. Why would this be in dispute . Well, 29 states, as everybody has been explaining, require the voters. 21 states say you dont have to, leading into that reckless or rogue elector analysis. The point is in the 29 states, neil, where you have to vote as the voters directed, its a misdemeanor not to. Already a criminal offense inch colorado, which has that law the law you have to vote with the will of the people. Exactly. But the state official is saying, we may also tag you with perjury charge. Perjury is swearing an oath to tell the truth and then not telling the truth. Here youre swearing youll follow the voters but the defense would be, wait a minute, at the time i swore my oath i intended to vote that way and then i changed myman. My view legally is the misdemeanors that exists would be the only charge and x my understanding nobody has if been charged with a misdemeanor. Working off of your earlier guests, its a nonissue on many levels dish. Unless a lot of electors switch sides, the left or right. Having said that, the states that dont have that come sector, they can vote their conscious, how real is that, how legal is that, and how often do we see that . Well, yeah. Thats a great question. The opinion is, you have to look at that from a Straight League<\/a> standpoint and then historical standpoint. Historically, very, very few, 157 in 200 years so no real historical support thats going to happen. The last thing anybody wants to do in this election, however, is making a definitive prediction. Really, neil, im not kidding. The point is, i dope expect that youre going to see the type of numbers but then you get into theweeds if theres a dispute over what the electors have didnt. If theres a tie it goes to the house of representatives for president , and the senate for vice president. Congress still has the right to turn around and dispute that, okay, in the my goodness. In which case it goes back to the secretary of state of the particular state. So this would be a real constitutional crisis, in my opinion, if this happened. There are so many weird possibilities. Absolutely. Doug, good chatting. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Well, for a lot of democrats they cant seem the wrestle with how it is that Hillary Clinton<\/a> lost what was a sure thing, and their view, the white house, certainly wasnt the economy. To kevin cork at the white house with the later. Always good to talk to you itch talked to jason with frote the frequent advisor and by every definition he is a policy wonk but i pressed him on the issue of jobs and the economy. A lot of people still are talking about the fact that, okay, so they won the election, had everything going theyre way and still didnt work out. Today i challenged jason and josh earn n about the state of the economy and jobs and wanted to know why so maybe americans dont feel like the rosy picture the administration paints has any basis in reality. Given what we hear often, what seems to have been missing in terms of i mean, at least in theory, you would say the economy is doing great, that should resonate with people and they should continue the policy. Unless they are just voting on Something Else<\/a> and thats my suggest, is that they had other things that were influencing their decision about who to vote for. Think thats a testament to the strength of the economy that president obama has presided of and testament to the strong public supports for the Economic Strategy<\/a> we have pursued. Did you catch that . That was a stunning admission. This time ive heard an honest answer from the white house about the election, meaning it wasnt that they didnt have the ammunition. Josh earnest said they didnt have the right economic messenger. Were talking about secretary Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Clearly he was making the suggestion there have been so out there who suggested their strategy was poor and maybe they depth have the right messenger. If nothing else the message. Would certainly argue that the trends have not been good for noncollege graduates for quit some time, despite the rosy picture painted. The message so overwhelmingly positive, then they would have gone along that party line. Wild stuff. And great questioning, my friend. Kevin cork, White House Correspondent<\/a> extraordinaire. In the meantime, how would now you you to liar in a swank where hotel, and anyone is assuming they must work at some hedge fund or maybe fox business and come to clock, these are irs guys. Theyre the ones racking up the bill. And you are the ones paying it. All right. Big on our dime. 1. 4 million worth of travel bills that ireyepopping considering theyre coming from the irs. Trace gallagher is here to spell it out. Whats going on here . Reporter well, the irs is good at both collecting and spending taxpayer money. The Senate Finance<\/a> committee report, found that in 2015 just 27 irs employees spent more than 1. 4 million on travel. That breaks down to about 52,000 per person. The biggest problem is that many irs executives dont live where they primarily work, which is against government policy. So they spend 125 Business Days<\/a> a year on the road, and it appears those executives like to go in style. Spending tens of thousands of dollars living in Highend Hotels<\/a> for months at a time. Were talking about lengthy stays at places luke the ritzcarlton, just outside of d. C. , where one employee racked up a 72,000 bill and the grand hyatt in d. C. , where another employee spent 39,000. Pretty good dig us. One employee didnt lick the hotel life so they represented a four bedroom, Million Dollar<\/a> apartment for 5 grand a month, and another stayed at a luxury apartment in downtown chicago, overlooking the seahawks river she Chicago River<\/a> no doubt, for 4,600 a not. The machines comite er says the employees never tried to look for lower cost housing and there were thousands spent on back which are service, unnecessary trips on amtrak. The peer dumb the irs allows the per diem the irs allows is 60 a day. But for irs employees 63 is chump change. That is what we get, isnt it . I pour all mine in into hot dogs, the turkey ones. Irs, this is a story that i didnt come up with. My producers did. You can do whatever you want. Youre the irs. In the meantime, did you ever, ever get a gift you hated . Either birthday or christmas time . Three out of people people will fake it and say, oh, they liked it more or less. Im thinking of that because i cannot tell you the processed meat and cheese basket is gave team but three out of four were lying that they liked it. 18 months ago i told my first crowd in wisconsin were going to come back here some day and we are going to say, Merry Christmas<\/a> again. So Merry Christmas<\/a>. Happy new year. But Merry Christmas<\/a>. Christmas. Give him credit. I end know whether he brought back the Merry Christmas<\/a>, but the didnt say it last easter which is an odd tiking. A lot of people are back to saying things like Merry Christmas<\/a>. Brought it back for politically. Who knows . I know these guys do. Open game to anyone. I will throw it out there. This idea that its okay to say Merry Christmas<\/a>. Yeah, its an easy Campaign Promise<\/a> to keep, i think. What were seeing is the pc has gotten so out of control. Today i was reporting you cant put ninja in a job ad because its a gender coded word. Even ninja is off limits. I feel like its getting to where everything is offensive. Where is the gender coded thing in. Apparently ninja is a masculine word. I see. It will scare off women. Were getting to that level of nonsense with pc. Anything you do will be offensive. May as well say Merry Christmas<\/a>. Something happened where people are rethinking some of the craziness. I think that was the whole trump backlash of those that voted for him is that were tired of the pc mindset and control. You saw with celebrities who thought they could their word was golden. Anything they said, people would listen to them. By electing trump people said, we dont want to keep abiding by what we have been doing. I think donald trump is just really getting in line now with the popularity of hallmark christmas movies. No matter how pc people have i would never have put him in line with hallmark Christmas Christmas<\/a> movies, home alone ii he was a big star in that. Huge star. Huge star. No, no, but i think people love christmas, they love the holiday. So many of my jewish friends here in the city put up a Christmas Tree<\/a> and cel holidays. I think its in fitting with what people have felt and that they love christmas. No one is going to take that away from them. If you are celebrating or not, if you want to get into the spirit, many of my jewish friends love the music. They love seeing the Christmas Tree<\/a> up. They dont even wince a little bit . There are some who are atheists. I think they get into the holiday spirit. I appreciate their holidays, too. I celebrate hanukkah. Every year. I thought you were making a statement. No, no, no. I dont want to get on his bad side. I had to bounce it off young people. Three out of four americans will fake a reaction with disappointing gifts. They will pretend they like it. Yeah. Absolutely. 100 . Im not surprised its not more. You are right, its the christmas spirit. Everyone wants to be happy around the holidays. I could see with your kids doing that. I got you something. Great. But this is adult to adult. Honestly, i dont think many people are surprised on christmas day. I was emailing with my sister. I know what shes getting me. The two books i asked for and the wine glass selection i wanted. How do you know . Unless she got Something Else<\/a>. Are you going to have a puss on your face, this isnt what i wanted . When she sees this segment, she will know im lying. In my dating life, im used to always the fakers. People faking things around you. Im not that surprised. Only presents. You are well prepared. Its better to give than to receive. If this person has given me something, i will give some back pretending im happy about it. You dont let nonsense go by. What if you got something you didnt really like . Truth be told speaking of Merry Christmas<\/a>. An apple. You are eating healthier now. The only thing i could eat here well, i dont know, the apple or the this. Take a bite of the apple right now. Who loves you . Do you guys do you like it . Are you faking it . I like this. The like the cheeses that are multicolor a general observation. You like diversity. Its very pc. Everything in moderation. Even moderation. Now if i said i like this, who would believe me . I would say i think you appreciate it. You may not open it up and eat it. I would have a hard time believing that someone didnt like cheese. And sausage. I like it. If i cant eat it, its like you are trying to make me suffer. This is great. Then they pat you on the head or something. Do you get that a lot . Yeah. It was interesting about the article was they said your likelihood of telling the truth about whether you like the present went down with age. If your grabbndma tells you she likes your present, shes probably lying. Really . You will be more likely your likelihood of telling truth goes down with age. Really . You act like you like your present the older you get. I really dont care for this sweater you bought me. I dont want to see grandma cry. But were living in a fake world here. Its almost as bad as our fake decorations. What world do you live in in. You are right. His own world. Young people tend to be phony. Right . No. Not us. Not the people i hang out with. Not the people i hang out with. What you see is what you get. Thats what worries me. Thank you. Stick with gift cards. I dont like that. Thats another show. Theres nothing more impersonal than a gift card. What do you think . I will take a gift card any day. Me, too. Save me a lot of trouble in the future. Cant wait to get it. Enjoy the apple. Merry christmas. Peace on earth, good will toward even the young people. We have more coming up including a fascinating detail that i bet you didnt know. When i share it with you, be grateful and not say, im so glad you shared that. After this. Duo fusion goes to work in seconds and lasts up to 12 hours. Tums only lasts up to 3. For longer lasting relief. In one chewable tablet try duo fusion from the makers of zantac vo its the holidays at verizon, and the best deals are on the best network. With no surprise overages, you can use your data worry free and even carry over the data you dont use. And right now get four lines and 20 gigs for only 40 per line. Youll even get the iphone 7, the Samsung Galaxy<\/a> s7, the pixel phone by google, or the motoz droid for only 10 per month. No tradein required. Hurry, these offers end soon. Get the best deals and the best network, only on verizon. You might mark this as the day hollywood decided to interfere with the situation and urge the electors to do the right thing and do not vote for donald trump. Now, this will be called the turning point where not a one of them ended up budging. We will talk to an additional elector tomorrow who says thats exactly whats going to happen. See you then. Hello, everyone. Its 5 00 in new york city. And this is the five. The showdown over russias alleged meddling in our countrys election intensifies. Yesterday, White House Press<\/a> secretary john ernest charged that president elect trump knew before the election that russia was behind the series of hacks on democrats during the campaign. That claim was later dismissed by mr. Trumps team. That sin credibkr is incredi disappointing. 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