We will get to a lot more than that in just a moment. First to Fox Business NetworkHillary Vaughn in washington on bernies big tax bet. Hillary . Hey, neil, 2020 candidate Bernie Sanders admits that just because he believes healthcare is a human right doesnt mean its going to be tree. If the government replaces private Insurance Companies with his single pair healthcare plan, medicare for all. Going to pay one way or the other. But, look, martha, martha. Whether its in your income tax or payroll tax. Look, hurricane is not free. Of course not. You just said it was going to be free for everyone. Its going to be free at the point of when you use they are cutting out the middle man. Insurance companies. Promising the crowd last night that the government would do something private Insurance Companies dont let you do, pick any doctor you want and any hospital you want. You goal to any doctor that you want, you will go to any hospital that you want, and by the way millions of people today are in networks which prevent them from doing. This so this gives you freedom of choice with regard to the doctors you go to or the hospitals you go. Neil, a medicare for all type plan isnt without its problems. Just last week the feds discovered 1. 2 billiondollar Medicare Fraud scheme that took advantage of hundreds of thousands of medicare patients. The doj charged 24 people and called it one of the largest healthcare frauds in u. S. History. Neil . Neil all right, hillary, thank you very, very much. Hillary vaughn on all of that of course what is a differentiator with this early read of the candidates Democratic Party vying for the Nations Highest Office is a woman they do want to raise taxes on the rich. Senator sanders expanded that to not just the rich and to be fair even though he himself a rich and millionaire and part of the 1 . Is he going to eat his own pudding as i said and tax himself. In the long run he said it would be beneficial for everyone. Step back from all of this and the significance of it. When is the last time you remember a prominent candidate running for the highest office in the land arguing for a tax hike . Does this ring a bell . The budget will be squeezed. Taxes will go up. Anyone who says they wont is not telling the truth to the American People. Neil now, of course, he went on to lose the entire country own state of minnesota, the district of columbia. That awaits any democrat who entertains something similar. Democratic strategist Scott Levinson and wilts with the american rising corporation. You know, interesting. When i looked at the history of this its always risky to talk about raising taxes, period. Normally its okay for democrat to espouse targeting the rich to be senator what he is saying is no, no, more than the rich but everyone will benefit by expanding that pool. I will give Bernie Sanders credit for honesty because a lot of these Democratic Candidates are talking about these big ticket spending items. And they are just saying oh tax the rich more to pay for it when in fact you cant tax the rich enough to pay for these items. So what Bernie Sanders is saying that now we are going to bring those taxes down to the middle class and according to a recent study its going to be about 20,000 more a family if you want to pay for better care for all. If you want to pay for free college tuition. There is going to be a lot of pain felt by middle class families. I think that recent reports that show that with the tax cuts and jobs act, most people felt like they didnt get a tax cut. I will blame the democrats and some of the media on that for the messaging woes there. Neil they argue they didnt see enough of it. People already feel squeezed enough. Its important to have this powerful perspective here when the United States was entering its boom years in 49 throughout the 50s until 1963 we didnt have 70 tax rate. We had 90 tax rate, neil. Neil but he is, again, going beyond upper income rates. We are talking about a year when honey well, when jetblue when netflix, when amazon and General Motors paid no federal taxes. So there is plenty of room on the 10milliondollar earners. Neil why not do something that Elizabeth Warren is advocating go after those companies if thats the route you are going to take. No doubt about it thats inclusive. Neil suicidal what he is doing. I think its important the big distinction between doing what he is doing and what wall per monday tail did. There was no good news in what Walter Mondale did. He was playing defense. What bernie is doing is aspirational. Where is the good news on that . Im sorry healthcare for all. Most people who cant afford their own would suggest that healthcare providing healthcare to americans is good. Neil just to be clear, i know you want to finish it. To be clear 150 million americans have private Health Insurance and whatever they complain about certain aspects of it they like it and they dont want a jetson for something that might be a risk. I dont think there is one american tell you the truth value added healthcare that Insurance Companies are giving us. I can listen, being a Small Business owner, i can tell you that having this universal healthcare and having the having to in the past pay for that according to what we had with obamacare having to accommodate that as a Small Business owner, it was a mast massive impact on me. I could not hire. Get rid of the Insurance Companies. Neil get rid of the Insurance Companies and healthcare they provide. They dont provide healthcare, neil. Neil you know, people get a lot of their coverage healthcare coverage through their Insurance Companies that they are the ones that Bernie Sanders is saying you dont need them anymore. They are the middle man. Neil right. Im saying tell that to a lot of people by and large satisfied with what they have got. This is shocking when Kamala Harris says it at the beginning of her president ial candidacy. Neil she dialed it back. She had to dial it back, it was the ugly truth of what medicare for all means. You lose your private insurance. Once most americans heard that that campaign had to backpedal in order to reign in the messaging on that. That is the ugly reality. Anyone treated with some sort of version of medicare, its nowhere near the type of service that you get with private insurance. Neil they didnt think that this would amount to much. They thought targeting one thing. Expanding it to the degree the masses who are going to pay for all of this you have to go beyond that limited pool. Do any of you worry that especially you are a prominent democrat, are you worried that some of the prominent candidates are their chances goodbye. I do wonder whether a real educational moment for the American Public if you want to be aspirational and do things like universal healthcare its going to cost money. Neil you think the American People are ready to do that . I think its clear the American People are ready to do that and clear people recognize. Neil the lowest unemployment key demographics do you think they are prepared to interrupt that right now . I think there are virtually no americans who would recognize that there was 90 tax rate in our boom years. Neil thats not what im asking. Interrupt what they enjoy now . No. I think they would for something better. And i really have to argue against that. They wouldnt pay more . They would definitely not pay for something more this wouldnt necessarily be anything better. You are talking about you are talking about actually, i dont know which americans you are talking about that would want to pay for this kind better healthcare . To your point, neil, what you are saying is that this is going to cause a great economic disruption and it will. I think what the president has going for him coming in to 2020 is that the economy is doing so well. When people when we are talking about disrupting a major sector of the economy ahead of a president ial election where the economy is doing well, they are going to say. This location, i understand what scott is getting into. You are jumping the shark here a little bit. Go to the degree recommending usually do that in the middle of some economic. I do say its important for leaders to be aspirational. Every other nation has universal healthcare. Neil not on i want to thank you. 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Every trip is a big deal. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United StatesPostal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Neil all right. We have a dozen and a half prominent Democratic Candidates trying to take out control of the house and assume the white house. The white house might have troublpresident might havetrouby bill wells president ial candidate up for the challenge and willing to take on the president in 2020 for the republican nomination. He joins us right now to discuss why he is going to do it. Governor, very good to have you. Neil, always a pleasure to be back with you and here i am all alone in second place with a lot of those democrats give their eye teeth to be there. Neil why now, governor, the president has enormous support in the Republican Party nine out of 10 republicans like him support him going to be with him. A good many of them dont even remember you. What do you say . I think there is a loft issues that have to be vetted. Nobody has put up their hand and planted a flag. I think somebody has to do it. I think the president you and i have discussed. This i think he is really not an economic conservative. He hasnt cut spending, vetoed spending at all. I have done that. And if i get to washington thats the first thing i would do is to cut spending which permits further tax cuts. Im not at one with the president on foreign policy. I think he is insulting our allies and really cozying up to dictators, almost as though he wanted more ought ottc factions of the regime to come to the United States which is the opposite of what i want. There is lots to talk about. It might be good for the president to be put through his paces as it were and have to account for, answer for his positions. Too often, i think they amount to one word, you know, hoax for climate change. Wall for immigration. Lets flesh that out a little bit. Neil why dont you let the democrats flush it out, governor. The wrap against you were two term governor. 25 years since you were on the public scene there in that role. Even your critics say you were a very solid governor. Fiscal conservative. More socially liberal. Open to gay marriage when many in your party were not. You have some appealing qualities but in this environment where republicans think its donald trump who has delivered the strong economy. Donald trump has delivered this market on the cusp of breaking records across the board again. And that you are johnny come lately. What do you think . Im not so sure president s and governors dont get too much credit for good times and too much blame for bad times. But, be that as it may, those stratospheric Approval Ratings that you refer to those are publicly the republican state committees and republican officials and their close allies who are definitely. Neil they dont they remember, governor, fairly or not, when you supported barack obama over john mccain. They remember the fact that you bolted from the party. Libertarian candidate and then went back to the Republican Party. They see in you sort of like a flimsy friend. What do you say to them . Well, i have been except for my libertarian run i have been a registered republican since i was 18 years old which more than can you say for the current incumbent. I dont think thats an important point. My politics have really never changed no matter what hat i was running. Neil its important in primaries, right . Important in primaries and caucuses . No. But candidly it matters a lot who votes in the primaries and in massachusetts when i was running the independents its a crossover state like New Hampshire. Neil right. Independents came in and voted for me 6 to 1. Thats how i got elected. Im going to try to make a case so the millennials to the genera genxers. Suburban women should come in and vote for me and make a difference between one of two people and not one of 15 people. We will see. Anyway, thats the strategy. Neil all right. Did you give the president a heads up by the way hey, i want to challenge you . You know, i didnt. I happen to have very friendly conversations last couple of days with governor kasich of ohio. Governor hogan in maryland. Those are the only heads up discussions that i had with anybody. Neil did either of them, governor, im sorry, sir did, either of them expressed interest that they, too, were thinking of running or just wish you well . They did wish me well. I think its fair to say that both of them are looking at the situation and if the politics changes somewhat, i think either or both of them might be interested. And i think i indicated to each of them that that would be no skin off my teeth. That would be a broader cufertion. It might be harder for the president to duck debates if there were two or three other candidates in the race. So i you know, i have been encouraging both of those people and i think we all want the same thing. Which is an airing of the issues. Neil if he defeated you, governor, and then got the nomination, would you support him over the democratic candidate . You know, this is not words you want to hear from me on your nice show. I think the president s meanspiritedness means i could not endorse him for the presidency. Im not say i would endorse the democrat. Might sit it out as many people did in 2016. Neil then how would you put it together, governor, of course massachusetts obviously good exposure in New Hampshire. Many in massachusetts resident has come on to win in that fine state. Buff how would you cobble something together after that to get to as well 36 delegates you would need to be the nominee . Well, i would spend a lot of time in the midatlantic states, new york, pennsylvania, maryland, delaware, where i have spent a lot of time over the years. California, oregon, washington hospice tab, inner mountain west, some of the southwest, not all the mountain states, but some. And there would be areas of the deep south where im not going to strike a resounding cord there. Other areas where there may be opportunities. C