In less than half an hour. Lets get the very latest on matt finn in minneapolis on how this is playing out. Matt . Behind us is where the courtroom where the trial played out. You can see the razor while here as weve been reporting. The security has been intense in minneapolis. The past day or two, weve noticed it growing. Theres National Guard all over the city and including places like retail areas and high foot traffic areas. For a couple of blocks around the courthouse, really has been a ghost town. Corporate buildings boarded up, stores boarded up. Intense security, preparing for the verdict that is now here. Operation safety act, which was combining local and federal authorities along with Neighboring Police departments, theyll give us an update. The jury is made of seven women, five men. The ages between 20 and 60 years old. 44 witnesses in 14 days of trial. The prosecution and closing arguments yesterday arguing and making its final pitch to the jury, Derek Chauvin murdered george floyd by puts his knee over his neck. The defense arguing that he was following his Police Training and george floyd died from other contributing factors including drugs and heart disease. The defense trying to paint Derek Chauvin as a Reasonable Office that followed reasonable training. The prosecution, the final line of the trial to the jury was you were told George Floyds heart was too big. The truth is, Derek Chauvins is too small. Neil . Neil much has been made of the fact that no member of the jury wanted a call for clarification or had questions. Do we know that to be the case. Generally if that is the case that that could signal that they were comfortable with the material that they had. Yeah. Our understanding with a lot of staff here, there were no questions from the jury. Maybe well learn there were. We were not made aware of any questions, there was a long day of closing arguments yet. The jury decided after that long day to begin deliberations last night. They began a few hours until 8 00 p. M. So the initial impression is that this was a jury that was motivated, that was working perhaps together efficiently and our understanding is they began deliberations an hour earlier than expected. Here we are now a couple hours later and theres a verdict. Well bring that to you, neil. Neil thank you, matt. Up now, in closing arguments, prosecutors told jurors that you can believe your eyes. Its what you felt in your gut. Going on to say, this wasnt policing, it was murder. The defense for its part urged jurors to carefully consider the evidence. The defense hoping to move one juror to their thinking. Thereby invalidating all of this. But of course, theres no way of knowing. Well know in 27 minutes. Lets go to andy mccarthy, Fox News Contributor. Andy, this was along the lines some thought it might be. Sort of a guilty or not, very little gray area on this. The charges from Second Degree murder, third degree murder, Second Degree plan slaughter. Maybe you can explained the difference. Sure, neil. I think that one of the explaining the differences can explain why you would get a quick decision. Second degree murder, third degree murder, the victim died in the course of another crime that you didnt intend to commit. That crime here is assault. So what began as a Lawful Police detention evolved over that nine minutes and 29 seconds in to a criminal assault. Thats the Second Degree count. The third degree murder count is what is known as depraved indifference homicide. That is that chauvin acted in a manner that was so indifferent and reckless and depraved as far as human life was concerned that that was the cause of death. If you resolve that count against chauvin, seems like the other two are layups. If they found him guilty on that, follows that youd convict him on the other. The third is manslaughter, which is negligent homicide, where they dont have to find that chauvin intended to do anything wrong but his Actions Create a grave risk of potential death or profound harm to human life that that was the causative agent for killing george floyd. So those are the three counts. As i said, if you found him on the depraved on the human indifference, the other two follow. Neil the potential on sentencing on this, if it were the manslaughter charge, it does have the stipulation that takes it up to ten years. Rarely is it that long. In an event like that it could be a fraction. Could you explain that . Yeah, sure. Most counts have a minimum of zero. Then theres the maximum set by statute for manslaughter here. Ten years for the depraved indifference. The unintentional homicide by committing an assault, its 40 years. So that is what the top of that is the height of what the judge can sentence him too. If they have a stipulation where the prosecutor notifies the course that they will seek an enhanced sentence, they have to prove certain individual elements about each individual charge. If they can tick those boxes, the sentence gets higher. They cant for a tenyear count, you can go up to ten, cant go over ten. Here obviously they have if he gets convicted as i anticipate he will, looks like theyll have plenty of sentencing range. Neil so in your gut being exonerated on all of these charges to you seems unlikely . I dont think seems to me, neil, that the manslaughter was a pretty easy reach for the prosecutors. So because you didnt have to prove intent there. So i really thought that the only logical quick verdict here would be a guilty verdict. Not guilty verdict you would think have taken them more time. If i was were the appellate later for chauvin and he gets convicted in terms of the issue hes been raising about whether he could get a fair trial and all of the explosive rhetoric thats gone on outside the courtroom, in terms of the colorability of that claim, the quicker the verdict, the better for the appellate claim because they will be able to make a strong argument that the jury was powerfully influenced by these enstrain use things going on outside the courtroom. Neil yeah, eric nelson the defense lawyer mentioned that Maxine Waterscomments, that it even the judge agreed it might make the trial one that could be overturned. Your thoughts on that. Just curious. Heres the difference. I think if the jury was out four days and they asked a lot of questions and you could therefore make a record that they were making a discriminating appraisal of the evidence and got to the end, you could make a good argument that they tuned out the noise and focused on the evidence and the judges instructions. Whereas they have been out less than a day. So far as we know there were no notes and you know, you have this explosive atmosphere where the lawyer is saying he cant get a fair trial and hes been saying he cant get a fair trial since the beginning, a quick verdict lends more support to that. That doesnt mean theyll win on appeal but a quick verdict lends more support to that argument than if the jury had, you know, made a record strongly that they were making a discriminating appraisal of the evidence. Neil you can stick around, andy. Thanks for clarifying the charges and where they stand and what we could be hearing in about 20 minutes. We have a verdict that will be read at the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis Police officer charged with the murder of george floyd. So were waiting for that verdict. Three different potential charges, Second Degree murder, third degree murder and Second Degree manslaughter. We delineated the differences between them and the potential jail time that former officer could be facing if found guilty on any one of them. Lets go to mike tobin on minneapolis and how things are looking as people move in on the courthouse. Mike . Were at the courthouse here to see if the demonstrators show up. We have seen cameras but not demonstrators. That being said, the personnel that provide security, what theyre getting is where that communications are going out over social media, through different channels, telling the activists to get down here to the courthouse. If you start trying to forecast will there be destruction downtown minneapolis, the only thing i can go with on is a historical model of the Jason Van Dyke case. He was convicted for killing a man in chicago. A case that had Police InvolvedFatal Shooting of a black man. It had elements of the city covering it up because the video was sat on with a payout to the family. Looking at that particular case, nobody busted up the town. The demonstrations were more violent, more vandalism involved prior to a verdict. If youre trying to forecast the future, theres plenty of passion. Particularly following the shooting of Duante Wright. I expect after the verdict is read, the bodies will show up here. In terms of what happens, the answer depends on the verdict. We know the verdict is in after 10 1 2 hours of deliberations and its unanimous. We dont see a lot of people right now but were watching it. Neil you know, mike, theres a couple of thousand, up to 3,000 guardsmen helping police for any possible event later tonight. Do you see them around . What do you see . Certainly do. Heard people talk about a war zone. Feels a lot like the green zone. The guards on every street corner. They move them around from time to time. Theres a need for personnel out here that theyre bringing in Law Enforcement from outside of the state. Some of the demonstrators from Brooklyn Center have been from out of state and have been from out of town. A source tells me theyre picking up people from chicago, wisconsin, florida. What is absent right now is intelligence that some of these people are being brought in by organized groups. You do have a lot of communication, you have people coming in from out of state. What were hearing from Law Enforcement services is theres no organized Group Bringing people in from out of state. You have a lot of people showing up, coming on their own dime and under their own power because you have so many communications, so much interest and so much passion in the following of these policeinvolved shootings, neil. Neil all right, mike. Thanks for that update. Just to let you know, we were waiting for the verdict to be announced in 15, 17 minutes or so. We should stress as well that the president has weighed in on this matter. He called the family of george floyd, smoke to George Floyds brother after the jury was sequesters to offer his prayers he said. Theyre calling for peace and tranquillity no matter what the verdict is. This came from the president. He said im praying the verdict is the right verdict. Lawrence jones, fox news analyst, what did you make of the president s involvement on this and weighing in on this. He said he was doing it as the jury was already sequestered. Your thoughts. Its problematic on several fronts. Considering the judge just came out and said listen, respect the coequal branch. Dont get involved. Calling the family is one thing. Going out there and publicly and making a statement no mat or how you feel about it interrupts the process and gives the defense more ammo for an objection and appeal that theyre going to make eventually. Know matter how this goes, theyre going to make an appeal unless hes found totally innocent or all counts. I didnt see that happening. I think its hard in these moments because you have to check yourself, your emotions as a human being. Trust me, as i said earlier on tv, its hard for me being an analyst as my experience as a private investigator and being a tv guy covering politics of the day, sticking to the facts of the case and not feeling what i felt when i saw the video itself. So if i can do it, the president of the United States can do it as well. Neil you know, lawrence, we talked about Maxine Waters comments, whether it stirred the pot. We know judge cahill said they were not helpful remarks. Saying ill give you that congresswoman waters may have given you something, speaking to the defense attorney, on appeal and the trial being overturned. It would depend on which of these charges come through with guilty verdicts. We dont know at this point. That involvement has raised a whole host of concerns about the ultimate outcome no matter what we find out, right . Right. It muddied the waters. I dont think that alone will give the defense a mistrial. Most of my time, ive never been on the prosecution side as an investigator. I dont think its enough to give them a mistrial. Im sure that they will present that case. But what it did, it complicated things. I think its important to go back to why this is become so problematic. Early on, the judge issued a gag order not only to the defense but he issued a gag order to the prosecution and elected officials in general. He said i dont want you doing any talking at all. Because it could prejudice the jury. He later rescinded that gag order after the media started to bring up a lawsuit because they said it wasnt being transparent. They couldnt do their job. The defense made the argument that there were certain prejudice toward them. The prosecution as well as elected officials had already talking publicly. He wanted a fair shot. So he got rid of it. This is a judge that has tried his hardest to keep this as a fair trial. He even said from the beginning that his gag order did not work to begin with because once he implemented, people started to leak from both sides and he was afraid that it may hurt the jury pool. So again, you know, the comments of Maxine Waters, the reason why she was there, many activists say is because of a lot of the local officials werent talking. The reason why they werent talking, the judge told them not to talk because it was hurt the process. So i think its problematic that you have a california congresswoman that doesnt have to deal with the repercussions of a city in flames. She gets to go back to california or d. C. Its the black and brown businesses that will have to deal with the anxiety of their businesses being burned down and mending the Community Back together after a tragic case. Lawrence jones, if you can hang around. I want to bring in andy mccarthy. I was wondering why the injureders were not sequesters since the beginning . What was the thinking behind that . Well, neil, jury service is very hard. You dont want to take people away from their families for weeks if you can avoid it. The general rule in the road of in most states is that theyre sequestered once deliberations start. But not at the start of a trial. They have to be sensitive to the idea of who will want to be on jury service if you think that theyre not only going to make you come to court every day but theyre going to keep you there for however long. So they try to walk the line between protecting the process and not making jury service too arduous. I think the big mistake that got made here and judge cahill tried an excellent case, but i think in the wake of the Brooklyn Center shooting last week, he should have sequestered the jury there and then because thigh were at the very tail end of the evidence, he didnt need the give everybody off. They could have gone in deliberations and sequestered from the news. Instead he let them go home and marinate in this is terrible atmosphere in minnesota or minneapolis over the weekend. That was a mistake. Neil easy to play monday morning quarterback but sets the stage for what the judgers would be exposed to, including Maxine Waters comments and even the president s comments, even though they were sequestered by that time. It allowed the judge to say i wish elected officials would stop talking about the case especially in a matter that is disrespectful to the rule of law. Whether Something Like this depends on what the ultimate verdict is allows the defense to argue they wanted the case thrown out if memory serves me right, to come back to that be if the verdict is not to their liking. Neil, this is as strong a case for prejudicial publicity. The thing with Maxine Waters statements and president bidens statements is theyre not oneoff, theyre not in isolation. They come in a context. Here we have a situation where the defendant for good reason argued that he could not get a fair trial in Hennepin County given the atmosphere there. While the jury was being selected, the city of minneapolis, which owed chauvin a fair trial, its their obligation to give him the fair trial, they picked that time while the jury was while the judge was in the middle of selecting the jury to announce publicly that they made a 27 million settlement with the floyd family. Then you have Going Forward what we just discussed now, what happened in Brooklyn Center and the defense lawyer said judge, if we dont sequester them, the amount of publicity that theyll be exposed to and the amount of unrest in the streets that theyre going to be exposed too, under circumstances where one of the jurors was from Brooklyn Center and a number of the jurors had ties to the area and then you lop on top of that the kind of explosive statements played by congresswoman waters and the president piling on today, that makes a very strong record. As i said to you a few minutes ago, it becomes all the stronger if it looks like without even taking a full day and without even sending a note to the court the jury convicted on all three counts if thats what happens. Neil dont go far, andy. I want to bring in leo terrell into this a Fox News Contributor and more. But leo , the short time, the no question part what does that tell you . Ill tell you, neil, the no questions from the jurors tell you that they came to a qu