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And you've got multiple accusers now and it's a toxic environment and the Democrats of course if you watch that it seems are judging that what the qs saying is credible if you look at Republicans they're dismissing the allegations a smear campaign by the other side and the general public's And now here going what do we do with messages and memories and and things we're hearing about memory from 35 years ago how can somebody remember certain things but not other things now I know you have represented lots of cases even represented. A lot of us over North wrong you work in Rodney King Michael Jackson Martha Stewart Scooter Libby and you've studied it and you're controversial too as far as how you deal with memory so let's introduce 1st to Christine Ford memory from 36 years ago where she felt threatened I know that there are schools of thought that say an intense emotion is never forgotten it's different from a routine memory the way it's formed and it's almost called I think some people called flashbulb memory can you address that 1st of all when when you experience something in a stream Lee upsetting a rousing traumatic There is literature to show that what people do recall is the core of the event I mean you know it was in the fall and not an airplane crash and you and you can retain certain core details but if it likely the peripheral details that suffer in memory so that that's one thing we know about highly upsetting or arousing memory if they do not work like a video recording. The process is much more complex and much more to struck to for reconstructive. But those are some of the findings on the effects of stress but again is it something so that something traumatic like that she would remember basically the keys now you know what I'm I'm looking at I'm seeing that they may bring in a prosecutor and you don't have they're not happy about that because they want to senators to interview her I would assume they're going to ask 36 years ago and they got to be gentle with this we're going to say so you're under age you went to this party you didn't tell your parents who drove you there who drove you home if she doesn't remember that to a large part the audience will seem non-credible How can you not remember that to memory expert what does that say. Well I think you can easily remember parts of the event and not other parts particularly particularly things that are kind of peripheral to the trauma saw you know I wouldn't I wouldn't. I wouldn't take the claim that her failure to remember how she got there or how she got home means how the event didn't happen when I was raising over the last few days this is before any subsequent accusation is even if we grant that this something awful did happen to her I thought that the investigation ought to look into when did she actually attach the name Brett Kavanaugh to that experience that she was recounting is it something she knew back then or did he figure it out try to reconstruct it later so that's something I'm hoping we'll see pursued when she is. When she does get the chance to tell her story and answer questions about it do you find it interesting when she recounted this that she brought up somebody else Marc judge's name which some people are saying look if somebody is going to claim that this happened they wouldn't put themselves out there making it up to enter another name in their specific name who was there at the time. Well that's not true I mean there are false stories that contain the names of multiple people and there are true stories that contain the names of multiple people so. That's not a good indicator of the authenticity of the story interesting the enough because you do a lot of trials. My brother always said growing up he said some of my best memories never happened people I forget who did the study may have been you who presented 4 stories one fate one made up to folks in f. Stem to go through the stories and add detail and 25 percent of them added detail as if the 4th story which never happened to them was accurate in other words they ended up in publishing that story and ending up making a part of their history and what percentage we got that's my study and there's a story you know you have a pretty good recollection there are we we planted a memory in the minds of ordinary adults that when they were 5 or 6 years old they were lost in a shopping mall that they were frightened and trying and ultimately rescued by an elderly person and reunited with the family and with what just 3 suggestive interviews we got about a quarter of our subject to remember all are part of the made up experience which is pretty stunning so that in the case of this other cruiser government. When she came forward what we found out was she didn't she was hesitant because she said there are huge gaps in her memory but then after spending 6 days with attorneys and her representatives she felt comfortable enough that she remembered a lot of the event that is actually being that just suggestion and may not be devious intent but just suggestion just interviews can steer memory a different direction. Well that's something that the research studies show that the way you're interviewed if you're interviewed by somebody who has an agenda or a hypothesis about what happened they can. Create memories so one doesn't want to look into I would think what went on in that 6 day period well what exactly was was going on when she was trying to piece together this this memory and when she gets a chance to tell her story hopefully somebody will you know ask her about that. With memory because it's going to very very complicated and very complex we now know that it's an entire brain thing were pieces are put together in a mic in a correct that every time you remember something especially reconstructed correct it's not just like you press a button in the whole memory is there is reconstruct each time and is embellish basically by events that happen to you based by your history based by things you've heard based by things you've seen so it starts it's almost starts a new each time you bring up that memories are correct Well it's kind of I mean there are some times there is a lot that that is repeated and that is the same but when you break when you are recalling a memory you're out actually pulling together bits and pieces of experience sometimes those pieces are coming from different places and times and that's why we sometimes have errors in memory and by the way when you're talking about eyewitness testimony because you work on a lot of cases you have conflicting eyewitness testimonies people who are standing right there who report that they remember different things how do you deal with that and figure out who's credible and who's not. Generally you have to have some independent corroboration to know whether you're dealing with an authentic memory or whether you're dealing with you know something that is a product of some other process so magination suggestion or some other process so people will you know have to be looking for some kind of corroboration. For back does it make you concerned 36 years you go wow that's a long time I remember 1st time out to l.a. There were these regression therapies that took you back supposing for coming out of the womb and that there are precious memories that they can actually stimulate in their moments you can remember from when you were a fetus when you were the day you were born 6 months which is why remember those days too and we did see a lot of innocent people get caught up in the web of those accusations and some of them are still in prison and when you see traumatic and I mean you're different terms dramatic and new here there's there's false memory there's recovered memory there's repressed memory which are the right terms to use with this 1st of all in this particular case I don't know that we're dealing with a claim of repressed memory I haven't heard anything like that but those terms that you just threw out that they mean different things a false memory is when you remember something that didn't happen or you remember details differently from the way they actually occurred and there are hundreds and hundreds of studies in the literature that have educated that's about the conditions under which people can and do develop false memory you know repressed memory is of is a claim that somehow this horrific brutalization was so awful that you banished it into the unconscious and you hold it off from the rest of your mental life until you went through some usually therapeutic procedure to recover it and for that there is virtually no. Credible scientific support people cannot think about unpleasant things that happen to them and be reminded of them but this idea of mass of repression really doesn't have credible scientific support such a lot is how about with the me too movement when you hear an accuser come forward another cues and then more come forward who say they were motivated by that it brought back memories that's what jarred it right you know your memories can be jarred by smell by taste but when you see an accusation like that how often does that act as a catalyst for somebody coming forward and saying oh my gosh I forgot about this it was so burry But hearing that story brought back all these feelings well written you know any memory scientists knows about the power of retrieval So there is a queue of retrieval cue as we call it can bring to mind. A memory of something you haven't thought about for a long time and again whether whether it's a retrieval cue that is. Bringing to mind a true memory or whether it is the suggestion that is leading somebody to construct a false memory is something that you need to resolve with independent corroboration So how do we do this how do we move forward also alcohol enters into this he got the 2nd accuser said she was a newbie rated the 1st accuser said she had 2 drinks didn't claim she was a new bridge but said the judge was a new breed when you enter alcohol into the mix of memory what happens you don't really need a Ph d. I think that. Alcohol can lead to an impairment in memory in fact as few as 2 or 3 drinks can effect the formation of new memories so other people all people at a party where there is a lot of drinking might be expected they have somewhat 4 or memories for a party in the details of what happened at a party and that goes for people who are bringing accusations as well as those who are accused also in court when you when you have men. 3 experts in court like yourself if I'm being quizzed on my memory and on being asked about 36 years ago mess about 10 years ago where was I based on a crime I may feel trapped and embellish How can you tell when somebody is actually embellish ing the memory you know to to basically you know bolster their story and when they're not or is it impossible when I get involved in court cases usually particularly the civil cases where somebody is suing somebody else there is a whole lot of documentation there's there are police reports sometimes there are therapy records there are depositions of therapists and all kinds of other people including the person who's accusing in the person being accused So you you can look to see how is the story changed and what kinds of post event suggestion or mis information might a person have been exposed to that could have been responsible for the change in their story and but here all we know all all most of us know is what the press has reported and so it's kind of shocking to me to see that the people who are usually appropriately scientifically typical about about memories especially long ago batteries of everyone involved. That there are so willing and ready to accept uncritically that what somebody says must be true on either side if you will so how do you think so how do you proceed with this you're watching this you know what we know based like you said from the press on the dark Elizabeth Loftus who is the sings investor psychology and social behavior what would you do at this trial I mean if they do have a career prosecutor asking questions this is the other it's political theater is right and the Democrats have an agenda the Republicans have an agenda one side wants to rush this through and has stated that let's do this but. He's going to be he's going to be confirmed the other side is saying we've got to delay this and look these are horrific You can't put somebody in on a lifetime a lifetime job if we don't have clarity on this Will we have clarity can you have clarity you've done enough cases on this based on what you're hearing what are we going to find and what's this going to look like I think probably we might be able to rule out some hypotheses for example since some people are wondering about the question of when Dr Ford actually did attach the name Brett Kavanaugh to her recollection of this episode I think you could find out some information about that maybe maybe he'll end up saying I knew him I don't pretty well he was dating my cousin right. And then we know that she knew him back then and she could name him back then and it wouldn't make any sense to be talking about a mistaken identification of a person like that got made 30 years later that for example would be something useful we could find out but we may come away from this not knowing much more than we know now not having much more corroboration of any corroboration correct that's correct and then you're just going to sit home and judge for yourself with no with no expertise on who you believe is on the truth and who isn't truth is a funny word here because everybody could be telling their right I mean I try to explain to the other day that she thinks she's telling the truth 100 percent he thinks he's telling the truth and we have to discern. What's there any other question aside from the when did she know Kavanagh When did that name come to her one another question that you would ask would be concerned with well and that was the main one that I was focusing on at least last week and you know partly it to be honest partly because. You know I am a scientist I do rely on data but I also had an experience when I was 15 with the boys from a neighboring high school and I remember it very very well but I couldn't tell you who they were I couldn't tell you whether they ever became famous. I couldn't tell you a whole lot of things about the experience so these are the kinds of experiences that people have that kind of makes them want to believe that this happened to her right but it did make me wonder how did she know it's him interest we'll watch this together and maybe after it's