One is the state of the us china and taiwan trial at the relations today. On todays program were delighted to have a true expert in very good friend of mine thought to be that long course currently an associate Research Fellow of the east into european and american studies at the academics america to discuss this and many issues with us what kind of proactive if i let the two nd is the lack of use. Whoa going to start off todays program was something very broad and general was something bite of your alley this what is your assessment of the state of relations between us and china. This is possibly the single most important bilateral issues in the world today. Theres of course some positives though also some talent is that the water some of the changes you want is to pay in this relationship in two thousand twenty one think the epoch defining feature of the us and china mediation scheme has to do with the andean silk on the color transitions here and everybody know that ten of rice in rice recipe and isnt and us bred in a rented the decline from and hes the finest options all via the collar nation. I think the yet when these kind of a context of you in on the china will become more and more centered and see us who would respond forcefully to reduce whitaker in the abbey balances trench twenty eight in Asia Pacific News i think the pieces are the kind of a structure this fall though we have to face a wee im fortunate in that phase in period. All the creative beginning of the polish conditions and i will have some some sort of a non get cocky up between china and United States for example polis wealth of face some sort of security to nine months which means why is the security wall means the obviously security is oh so these have a cicada given the amount has to be managed properly and orderly fled the country. I think the yet they are from china us perspective is set up they would like to every store the nestle golden eagle keane then the state is needed to help us along the supply of town for chinese or chinese chinese would like to become the central old vhs and not by the United States as the status quo scholar and then of course the us will try it on very best to try to hold on his current status mimicry is the kind of trouble. I think the challenge ahead in the two thousand for teens will be a time due to a lot of misconceptions and tend to over confidence on from the ten s i was old for that amazing precious from the nsa you know that in the china of the Chinese People feel that im getting stronger and stronger by the evening return to International Status they would like to see that i have presented itself is a major power and that would make it ten out of phone cards to listen to and from the United States point of view of men in red tv economic decline financial crisis and the results show that will always constrained the u s meat batting strip which meant that that would have some golf on its ally and also from china that with the u s meat that is tragic and levy income and property and all sorts us also has this on domestic pressures in the coming years we have the ip connections to the United States can end up with old soul. Putting us in the station on the straights confrontational site of the us and china the nations i think these all the things must be a manager probably otherwise accidental country will be unlikely. And i can come knocking on the weekends i dont think that the major war between china and taiwan is going to fly because that given that these economic interdependence between these two are great colors and how the day with light to lead to a managed via the main difference is small. I stopped me in portable am a conflict by one of the trouble hearing has seen the past in us china relations has always intrigued me on the china of course enjoy such a huge trade surplus every year helpful maybe the last meal five to ten years at least the end of blog this year a lot of people are looking forward to a rebound in u s economy which you think that theres going to be less likelihood for a treat christians speaking to two sites. Well i think the u s a the bonding of Economic Growth to be of good news falafel balls china and United States because of what a decent media is that we should be producing the indian context because that car into the deviant and im chilling of all this the honeybee its actually so across the United States and eu. Even if the us economys be the bomb. Forcefully us the only did they need to have some balance of the tree and the rest of the things that we create their works of fiction to non fictions remember now we have a new eminem blasted to debate in the next office he really is all for scenario. That was an advocate is for your treatments fail to meet and policies as though im thinking that the common features of course becoming fictions became United States and in china will continue they should he remain pm he added that retaliation is prob runs as well as the sons of ipr violations across the room and you have an idea you have to let the thing to the quality and non monetary treat them the shoes even told them not us. Enterprise can nap. This is into the Chinese Market now out of bed in the slums of trade arrangement the steel non tariff trade barriers is all one of single most important issue that come from the u s enterprise two and two sailed on taxes to china. Tom and i think that this is over. Also some salt in a state enterprise in china is the most appeal of trouble for us. It company to into the Chinese Market because you know that they have lots of stuff that these hidden subsidies from the chinese the enterprise. So these are the things well will become the major issues that will or will he find it to carbon fourteen is an idea maybe it means he is the hat in the us and in the antenna to nominate she spoke. And of the bay area to mention the poll is so regarding the possibility of misconception. In all a misunderstanding of what the size ten shoes are. And people invariably will come over to problem areas being current U S China Relations one is of course the territorial disputes well again ive known the east china sea. Over the ipl the islands and also the other one being the south china sea. We all with the territory of course sovereign rights of the different field groups of islands in the area. So how would you think you know especially when you talk about the use of the sea peace be you know that this is a very thorny issue for us china ol skool for u s japan and also china japan relations. How do you think that neil and copper steel mill is going to be resolved in the year ahead. Well i think piano he will be to be a fortunate to live to see that its increasing tension between east and south china seas. I think the speakers and he was definitely an ant flying to or a frying pan a senior U S China Relations tom. Of course that poultry trade friction with continual he is. But remember you know they are out there some sort of theory to argue that he is not independent interdependence well always and decrease unlike the bill he had probably the floor of the chip on it too. According to the comfort. But theres another theory which you have to be a great postcard patients. The cars and they are such it may be close economic interdependence then when the United States or japan or any other nation since taking over time china hollywood to sculpt the kind of sickness. In particular that kind of a threat to the office of a soul sucking me and that little teeny and the United States japan or korea or sauces. The show would have to do to help us and them stronger signal them to china for ten to get a message likewise the channel will always pass to accent of a strong signal because it yes i will concede that the men that we havent such opposing nomination i dont mean it would not believe that ten the threat would be credible so then when i have a strong signal. Please someone other than enough will it be on that pulls the sites meal the chennai to four units a day have to use a strong signal to convince the other that made me what they say it is in the series has created some kind of nice section in the sun isnt that will quickly as it claimed that the potential that comfort. I think this is the flop and that we have to be yet. Up to carefully manage come into the u s positions quickly and it would not excite humans and not excited on so called something he spews out on these islands exhaustion as the least of these. But the United States mint and that this is that they have the medication freedom in high seas and soul up in dc shoot him i say it seems does not take anything but you know theres a subtle difference between the east tennessee and south china seas management. The United States. The point of view now yes its always increase china and japan on the japan korea to sit down to have someone of bilateral talks so that they can resolve the differences in all these kind of disappears in the photo you would like them to set aside its kind of sovereignty peace peace peace so that i can concentrate on more importantly she is too stiff or you know me at the deli items solar the top going in and between japan and korea as well so im a snob but really that important in this sense the net and in the major context of the financial donations. The songs tennessees maybe just in the United States to encourage that multilateral approach which are created only in the quarter comebacks in the pasta. Seoul the beancurd to ask him to take the leaderships mississippi as the beijing is that the collision is imminent after like a bus on bilateral talks cannot be seen yet at the few that countries made up of like vietnam oracle fifteen weeks with an aging so and so this is always differences. Thats quite a basin complained the United States of. With any comedian in what they say they dont act side effect the attacking side conceding the ball beats me but instead dish is partially in response to chinas self witness of cookies every scene and one kilos of rebalancing stranded us we got in to check his tool of may show that in our eyes on me will feel what it means also i think. Theres always a tension here the widows pension increase in the area and in horrible im horrible. Labels now will undermine the us in just for the second presentation that would actually increase they feel it would fit into the usb just something to the management issue will be the central idea she was forty nine states that the new station on to maintain a status quo in this region of course that we all like to see that snow peas and pasta at the noosa beach so good when u to take the first break on the program today and will be back just a few minutes the i dont. It is. Is steve eye. Welcome back to the second part of the scroll and key on the top one although on a host of greek will will will continue our conversation with the potato while i was currently an associate Research Fellow of the ec to european and american studies at the academics in the car although the couple that about one of the many areas of expertise which is cross tribulations between china and taiwan. What the shul wall protection of the Relations Team the year two thousand twenty. But thinking given that this is to soften and eight and is a prism i took a call for the cabal full face and i think is that the lobby and cumin in a post relations. So i think i wont need these kind of. The economic integration is with the cooperation will be like were likely to be in keeping it a try this and that and will exceed any and i didnt mean in a review concluded and which will encourage the Chinese Capital to move into taiwan the station yet chinese cital has up more into it i wan tinue to b som o the yet. Bought some and all High Tech Industries and hey we like to have a joint venture with Hong Kong Companies lacking the strand will continue. The other hand that you you probably would not anticipate that that day the Major Chinese capal would be stopping in taiwan because they think that i was not his previous mornings and that is important for the chinese enterprise the dream and they say you have to be very careful enough to be a chinese enterprise known as the wind is high that no one will pop up with major investment will come from the state and quzed d christ and to follow the of a user opens in the us always some optical more can be high the sky and the investment of one another so called assault and he finds all the tiny state enterprise of the mall to buy an american of the libyans and then mock me with his own in goal for the ut opinion into the purchase said via the port facilities and the soul of things always have some us that the speculation from montana joe from taiwans perspective we have to be very helpful upon the Chinese Investment and one thats also why currently at me and another picasso in the week the ministry of economy fares set up some essentials for the chinese have held to welcome by the amberley beach while mobile phone in discussing his is quite sensible idea and that that also put some salt of the contradictions for our current policy number in the mines policy is that we would like to utilize all market and the how come you can enter restricted foreign Capital Investment in our window and just occasions before she had a suspicion for nations on the nations a cakewalk in on the other hand that you have been very helpful of all via the Chinese Capital to move in. I think its a lot of things that mean you think of it and check out media. Make a plea and that they are in the coming years they would like to engage an eagle putt on the slavic legal negotiations between china and taiwan. That would enhance the so called common understanding of a one time friend were left me is that the so called nineteen ninety two consensus right now which already. The full fee on its machines to a political site to negotiate on the practical e have in there that i have it inspected and a half day they would like to move a step further to talk about previously shes pushing through the end of the mythical status the issues of competence pm and a confidence building has issues. Maybe including a Peace Agreement issues and then put enough on our side i think the visits name of the shoes at that event that we should engage right now because we still have a lot of issues need to negotiate the temple. Nineteen has agreements concluded between china and taiwan still have alot alot of things need to be me flying into and what you know we have a post the stakes and foundation in our house from them the division continued to pour some the sessions to examine resenting the yet the actual practice all the sniping of queens which means that with a lot of things need to improve. We should not go into the optical negotiation capacity. Plato is always depends on the amount of evidence much im now forced may have the advantage and that we have all my agenda and we need to make sure that our economic agenda and will be yes. In. The facilitate a white a pianist and sentiment and some saw them yet. Up to the vehicle at a and b q its the saloon know that the opiate legal battle. In fact in most of the station has made very clear that know me so i can agreements arent moments critical in achieving a somewhat out of me in the case and it has been in the coming years of course that the end. Within the mosque like to sn of the so called represented office at invasion and that would encourage patients to represent not the kind of thing that will be a step further the goal of the so called thee yet. No migration across the nation and the state encouraging news ok then given the fact that you can look back on cross relations in two thousand thirty. The highlight of course whats the signing of the Costly Service trade pact on to get your twenty first but this is something of course the opal controversy on the chair in taiwan. He obviously is not the domestic consensus on the issue. But it really that govern what we like to see the militant trade pact deal ratified by the legislative yuan. The on in this current session. What is your view on this one is the prospect of the united Service Trade pact be ratified by the l y feeling in the first half of two thousand which is one thing to make their way to me as though maths. The station is likely to not be so these inquiries and locally to remain seated facing the ally and then perhaps they will be some late but i would be yet more optimistic. I can see that you know given that the visit of prematurity of the canteen a pacemaker in a lot. And he said the supreme and wont mention the past that without any doubt that having said that id personally i dont think that the Service Agreement a sweetie and i a good enough the demons before i walk and a lot of deficiencies what we we just know that i love via some sort of them are humans and the law. The chinese enterprise will move you take over taiwans the smaller retail chains and that will let them each outing on retailers selling shopkeepers ill just let it slide this i think they have some from the imbalance between this and this is the meaning here is me. Oddly the consent of the Bank Economist for something pm the agreement calls for this so these. Hes not allow for taiwan. To set up the heck was he in taiwan he said. The Service Agreement and Taiwanese Enterprises set up some of the holocaust in Fujian Province able to provide post for the city which is against International Norms these in a very strange. But we can understand pages. Beijing is that the commission had tried to encourage the technicalities the investment on