Transcripts For KGAN Full Measure With Sharyl Attkisson 2016

Scott for all the hand wringing about the loss of manufacturing jobs, the reality is plenty of Foreign Companies make things here in america. Roger collins we had to hire 800 people very fast and just couldnt find the qualified people out on the job market. Chad robinson after we finish our four years with the apprenticeship, were fully guaranteed a job thats going to make a base salary of 55,000 about, and, i mean, you cant ask for much better than that. National captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] . Sharyl hello, im sharyl attkisson. Welcome to full measure. First came the shock. Then came the awe. With half the Campaign Money of donald trump defied democrats, his own party, the media and nearly every prediction. Were calling it the big miss. If the media misread america, theres a reason for the disconnect. In the first postelection poll, full measure and Rasmussen Reports asked, how much do you trust the Media Coverage this election cycle . Over two thirds said not so much. Only a third of those surveyed said they had any trust in the medias coverage of this election. And that says something about media and polls. Donald trump i am officially running for president of the united states. [cheering] sharyl the big miss started from day one. Mara liasson i think this is Donald Trumps biggest day. And he will be ignored from henceforth. Actually, i hope he will. Sharyl never before have so many in the media worked so hard to convince the public that a candidate couldnt and shouldnt he might be leading the republican ticket. [laughter] george i know you dont believe that. [laughter] Chris Matthews it was not close. It was over tonight. Very clear result. Hillary won big time. It was a shutout. Bill sternberg it is unusual, roger, for the first time in 34 years, since usa today was founded in 1982, the Editorial Board is taking a position on the president ial race, specifically, we are urging voters not to support donald trump. Sharyl goin night, the poll analyst site 538 showed Hillary Clinton with a 71 chance of winning. Slate. Com was off by more than a half million votes in florida alone and incorrectly predicted clinton would win the sunshine state. At 9 18 p. M. , the Detroit Free Press incorrectly called michigan for Hillary Clinton. In the end, trump won the state and the election. All forcing a Massive Media mea the morning after. Larry sabado we were wrong, ok . The entire punditry industry, the entire polling industry, the entire analyst industry. And i want to use this to take opportunity to take my fair share of the blame. We were wrong. Sharyl how do you explain to them that maybe we didnt see what was going on around us, in front of our nose . Frank senso i say we didnt see what was going around us, in front of our nose. Sharyl frank sesno teaches ethics i at George Washington university. Frank i say that the story that took place, and this is to the lesson, this is also the lesson of journalism, that the story of the year, in my view, is the story out there in america that neither the media nor the political ruling class saw, heard, got, or suspected. Sharyl in a way, looking at the coverage that was going into this and the polls, to me, this is almost a modern Dewey Defeats Truman moment. John johnson i think thats National Polls had clinton ahead three to five points. Sharyl john johnson is a statistics expert from mit who analyzes polls. Hes author of the book . Everydata, . About how people misconstrue data. Sharyl how would you rate the importance of whats happened with polling in this election in terms of looking at the last 20, 30, 40 years . John i think it is very important with respect to the fact that if the polls cant accurately measure turnout, if th gauge of voters preferences, its hard to have a lot of confidence in them, and it just leads to people being less trusting, and, you know, less interested in what they have to say. Sharyl and its clear that in the fallout of campaign 2016, Many Americans are less trusting not only of polls, but also government, media, and socalled experts. Michele green no ones an expert on anything, okay . What happened, so you cant be an expert, you cant be an expert, because no one knows what the future holds, so dont say this is going to happen when you really dont know. Kevin bretz i think they were listening to themselves, they were listening to other politicals, and i just dont think they were listening to the people. And the people spoke last night. Do you trust the media . No, not at all, not at all, not for a second. Sharyl in the end, trump was elected in spite much of the media being against him. Partly, perhaps, because of it. Donald trump the media is so dish they are so dishonest. Sharyl it became a rallying cry among his supporters. Cnn sucks, cnn sucks time no for media buzz. Sharyl howard kurtz is a media critic and host of media buzz on fox news. Howard kurtz this was the worst election for the media in my professional lifetime. I mean, i dont think its the kind of thing where a month or two from now, we all just move on. Level of distrust toward the press. A lot of it from the right, but some of it toward the left, which didnt like the way that we collectively covered Hillary Clinton. Sharyl a cache of evidence unearthed in emails published by wikileaks and obtained through freedom of information requests also ate into media credibility. They show an unseemly coziness between the news media and political operatives coordinating in ways the public was never meant to see. Clinton Campaign Staffers called Maggie Haberman an ideal friendly journalist. We have had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed. We can do the most shaping by going to maggie. Politicos ken vogel and glenn thrush sent story drafts to democrat officials. Thrush emailed Clinton Campaign chairman john podesta, please dont share or tell anyone i did this because i have become a hack i will send u the whole section that pertains to u. Tell me if i effed up anything. And interview pitch for chelsea clinton, offering to provide questions precisely agreed upon in advance. Nosurprises. I would work with you on topics, and would start with anything she wants to cover or make news on. Quicker than a network hit and reaching an audience you care about with no risk. Emails clinton officials often talked about placing stories with friendly officials. A clinton aide dictated three conditions to mar inder, including, you, in your own voice, describe hillarys speech as muscular. Got it, replied ambinder. And then theres cnbc anchor and New York Times contributor john harwood, who moderated a republican debate. John harwood lets be honest, is this the comic book version of a president ial campaign . Donald trump no, its not a comic book and its not a very nicely asked question. Sharyl behind the scenes, harwood offered compliments, helpful thoughts, and analyses to the Clinton Campaign, even asking, what should i ask jeb in speakeasy interview of the dealings clearly crossed an ethical line. Frank when i was covering George Herbert walker bush, i was invited to go interview the president , provided i asked him about only one subject, and i said, no, i cant do that. Im not going to do that. I will not agree to that. Even though it was a hot subject, i would i refused to take on those, that burden and those rules and those constraints. Sharyl i think a lot of journalists are saying yes now. Frank sesno a lot of journalists are saying yes now. Sharyl the big miss may reflect growing global skepticism of information provided by oncetrusted institutions, like we saw after the wrong predictions about the u. K. Vote to exit from the European Union or . Brexit. The punditry, the prediction, the polls all came up woefully short in this campaign. If we dont do better next time, the remaining credibility that the News Business has is going to shrink even further. Sharyl what does it do to our society when widespread swaths media, the polls . Frank its deep in our dna. This country was created on the backs of people who didnt trust central authority. It was mark twain who said, suppose i were an imbecile, and suppose i were a member of congress, but then i repeat myself. We have held our elected leaders in comedic contempt almost since the beginning of the republic. So, we need a little bit of balance here. Yes, its a rr we have so little confidence in our institutions and its a serious problem that needs to be addressed, but we should also understand where that comes from and some of it comes from the founding of the republic itself. Sharyl a footnote. We try to see things that other views and get outside the media bubble, which is what led me to believe that trump would not only be the nominee, but would likely be elected very early on. Sharyl this election of our discontent was fueled by many factors. One of them distrust of the government. In our full measure Rasmussen Reports poll we asked, how confident are you that the government will act in your best interest . Only a minority, just over a third of people asked, trust the government to act in their best interest. Well over half, nearly 60 , do not. Government oversight has come up with some recommendations for president elect trump. Sean moulton says his group wants to attack the government culture when it comes to transparency and secrecy. Sean moulton one of the top issues is to have a strong policy on ethics. The Obama Administration came in and it was a policy on lobbyists. Pres. Obama they have not funded my campaign. House. Sean that was their line in the sand, lobbyists. We think that you could change that line a bit. Its not just about lobbyists, its really about financial conflicts of interest. Another issue would be, put somebody in charge of ethics. Sharyl like a cabinet level position or an ethics czar . Sean a high level white house position. They have to have enough clout and authority that they can go to any agency and tell them that they need to change how theyre doing things and they would expect to be listened to. We would like to see whistleblower protections improved. These are people who risk their and the public about problems inside the government. And for far too long, theyve been retaliated against, they can lose their jobs. There are a lot of other areas where that principle of transparency and accountability just havent penetrated, especially around National Security issues. So, theres a lot of secret law out there. Sharyl who passes the secret laws . Sean a lot of it comes out of whats called the foreign Intelligence Surveillance court. And they, they do a lot, and some of it has to be secret, thats understood, but a lot of what they do, we believe, could be made public. Fix the freedom of information act. Right now, i mean, weve had, we just celebrated the 50th anniversary of foia. And, in all honesty, in those 50 years, its never worked. Sharyl i mean, thats the law thats supposed to let the press and the public apply to see Public Information from the government. Sean its a very simple principle. Ask for information, and if it very obvious exemptions, like National Security or privacy, then the government has to give it to you. But, if you have to wait years to get an answer to a simple question, thats not working for anybody. Sharyl are you optimistic that a government led by President Trump will change some of these things . Sean im hopeful. I have to be, because there are some good signs and there are some warning signs. Hes talked a lot about ethics, about draining the swamp, about changing the way ger operates. Mr. Trump we will drain the swamp in washington, d. C. [applause] sean im hopeful that when President Trump gets to washington, that he follows through on some of those promises, and the lack of transparency on his tax returns still worries me. It really does, that he could come into the white house and have a similar attitude now towards his new business, the jobs, or lack of them, is an issue that helped propel donald trump to the presidency. Scott thuman found a place in where there were plenty of good sharyl now that we know who will fill job one in the white house, we can turn to employment challenges facing the rest of the country. Over half of recent College Graduates say theyre working in jobs that dont require a College Degree and carrying an average student debt of 37,000. Where students are landing highpaying jobs, bypassing debt, and filling a critical need in a skills gap in america. Scott it was a policy point that rang out again and again in the president ial campaign. Mr. Trump thousands of jobs, leaving michigan, leaving ohio. Mrs. Clinton hes shipped jobs to 12 countries, including mexico. Scott but for all the hand wringing about the loss of manufacturing jobs, the reality is plenty of Foreign Companies employing more than 2. 5 million americans nationwide. German giant siemens is one of them. At its charlotte, North Carolina factory, it is Building Energy efficient generators that it sells to power plants across the u. S. And the world. This isnt your grandfathers factory floor. Siemens needs sophisticated machinists, coders, and engineers and pays handsomely when it finds them. Roger collins were programing robots in here, programming machine tools, this kind of work is not for an underachiever. Scott Roger Collins trains the workers. Collins says when the Company Expanded its factory from generators to gas turbines in 2011, it realized it had a problem. Roger we had to hire 800 people very fast and just couldnt find the qualified people out on the job market to meet the needs of this facility. Scott to fill the pipeline, siemens went down the road to give College Students practical skills and jobs upon graduation. Chad robinson its not the normal route, but this is a route that more people should be taking. Scott both Chad Robinson and orkhan patsiyev had eyed fouryear colleges, but balked at the price of tuition. What would college have cost you . Chad it probably wouldve cost me up to between 80,000 100,000 all together to finish out there. So, not having that on my shoulders is a huge deal. Going to a fouryear college, you have to pay for tuition and its too much. Scott instead, robinson and patsiyev became apprentices for siemens, which picks up the tab for their degrees, pays for all their books, and gives them paid, onthejob training. Orkhan this apprenticeship really brings a very, very Good Opportunity for me to go to college, experience on the job, and then, at the end, have a job. Chad one of my friends, he Just Graduated College with a fouryear degree and now hes working at best buy. Striving for. And with us, after we finish our four years with the apprenticeship, were fully guaranteed a job thats going to make a base salary of 55,000 about, and, i mean, you cant ask for much better than that. Scott apprenticeships are common in germany and Northern Europe and Vocational Training used to be the norm in america, too. But in recent decades, a college for all . Mentality has kicked in, financed by cheap loans courtesy of uncle sam. Apprenticeships, by contrast, offer a different pathway, from workforce. This is a playground for you. Roger oh, absolutely, absolutely. This is like mecca. A lot of students, you know, theyre studying geometry and trigonometry and algebra and courses like that, and theyre wondering where in the world am i going to use this . We use it here every day. Scott does it seem crazy to you that more companies arent doing this . Roger it does, very much so. Scott collins says siemens is hardly doing this out of the kindness of their heart. Pays off in the development of a highly skilled workforce, a teachable moment, perhaps, for u. S. Companies and colleges. Is this the future . Roger absolutely. Absolutely the future. There is no way, in the current educational system, that were going to be able to fill the technologically advanced jobs that we have here. Scott skillsbased training has always had bipartisan packing best backing. Congress appropriated 90 million to an Apprenticeship Program on top of 175 million the department of labor handed out last year. Sharyl what about under a Trump Administration . Scott he has certainly made the concept of ringing just being an apprentice popular. He said he will be the greatest jobs producing president got ever created. So far, no details from his campaign on what they will do for apprenticeship or Vocational Training. Sharyl we will see if it is sharyl most of the media are admitting theyve lost contact with america. I promise we havent. Were starting a series well call pulse. Full measure correspondent joce sterman begins with a trip to rural mississippi. . Joce poplarville, mississippi is hardly a place youd consider powerful enough to sway an election. Theres exactly one stoplight. The courthouse sits across from proclaims their status as the blueberry capital. When you want to know what gets a longshot candidate elected president , you go to dimples. Dimples Foreign Companies<\/a> make things here in america. Roger collins we had to hire 800 people very fast and just couldnt find the qualified people out on the job market. Chad robinson after we finish our four years with the apprenticeship, were fully guaranteed a job thats going to make a base salary of 55,000 about, and, i mean, you cant ask for much better than that. National captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] . Sharyl hello, im sharyl attkisson. Welcome to full measure. First came the shock. Then came the awe. With half the Campaign Money<\/a> of donald trump defied democrats, his own party, the media and nearly every prediction. Were calling it the big miss. If the media misread america, theres a reason for the disconnect. In the first postelection poll, full measure and Rasmussen Reports<\/a> asked, how much do you trust the Media Coverage<\/a> this election cycle . Over two thirds said not so much. Only a third of those surveyed said they had any trust in the medias coverage of this election. And that says something about media and polls. Donald trump i am officially running for president of the united states. [cheering] sharyl the big miss started from day one. Mara liasson i think this is Donald Trumps<\/a> biggest day. And he will be ignored from henceforth. Actually, i hope he will. Sharyl never before have so many in the media worked so hard to convince the public that a candidate couldnt and shouldnt he might be leading the republican ticket. [laughter] george i know you dont believe that. [laughter] Chris Matthews<\/a> it was not close. It was over tonight. Very clear result. Hillary won big time. It was a shutout. Bill sternberg it is unusual, roger, for the first time in 34 years, since usa today was founded in 1982, the Editorial Board<\/a> is taking a position on the president ial race, specifically, we are urging voters not to support donald trump. Sharyl goin night, the poll analyst site 538 showed Hillary Clinton<\/a> with a 71 chance of winning. Slate. Com was off by more than a half million votes in florida alone and incorrectly predicted clinton would win the sunshine state. At 9 18 p. M. , the Detroit Free Press<\/a> incorrectly called michigan for Hillary Clinton<\/a>. In the end, trump won the state and the election. All forcing a Massive Media<\/a> mea the morning after. Larry sabado we were wrong, ok . The entire punditry industry, the entire polling industry, the entire analyst industry. And i want to use this to take opportunity to take my fair share of the blame. We were wrong. Sharyl how do you explain to them that maybe we didnt see what was going on around us, in front of our nose . Frank senso i say we didnt see what was going around us, in front of our nose. Sharyl frank sesno teaches ethics i at George Washington<\/a> university. Frank i say that the story that took place, and this is to the lesson, this is also the lesson of journalism, that the story of the year, in my view, is the story out there in america that neither the media nor the political ruling class saw, heard, got, or suspected. Sharyl in a way, looking at the coverage that was going into this and the polls, to me, this is almost a modern Dewey Defeats Truman<\/a> moment. John johnson i think thats National Polls<\/a> had clinton ahead three to five points. Sharyl john johnson is a statistics expert from mit who analyzes polls. Hes author of the book . Everydata, . About how people misconstrue data. Sharyl how would you rate the importance of whats happened with polling in this election in terms of looking at the last 20, 30, 40 years . John i think it is very important with respect to the fact that if the polls cant accurately measure turnout, if th gauge of voters preferences, its hard to have a lot of confidence in them, and it just leads to people being less trusting, and, you know, less interested in what they have to say. Sharyl and its clear that in the fallout of campaign 2016, Many Americans<\/a> are less trusting not only of polls, but also government, media, and socalled experts. Michele green no ones an expert on anything, okay . What happened, so you cant be an expert, you cant be an expert, because no one knows what the future holds, so dont say this is going to happen when you really dont know. Kevin bretz i think they were listening to themselves, they were listening to other politicals, and i just dont think they were listening to the people. And the people spoke last night. Do you trust the media . No, not at all, not at all, not for a second. Sharyl in the end, trump was elected in spite much of the media being against him. Partly, perhaps, because of it. Donald trump the media is so dish they are so dishonest. Sharyl it became a rallying cry among his supporters. Cnn sucks, cnn sucks time no for media buzz. Sharyl howard kurtz is a media critic and host of media buzz on fox news. Howard kurtz this was the worst election for the media in my professional lifetime. I mean, i dont think its the kind of thing where a month or two from now, we all just move on. Level of distrust toward the press. A lot of it from the right, but some of it toward the left, which didnt like the way that we collectively covered Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Sharyl a cache of evidence unearthed in emails published by wikileaks and obtained through freedom of information requests also ate into media credibility. They show an unseemly coziness between the news media and political operatives coordinating in ways the public was never meant to see. Clinton Campaign Staffers<\/a> called Maggie Haberman<\/a> an ideal friendly journalist. We have had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed. We can do the most shaping by going to maggie. Politicos ken vogel and glenn thrush sent story drafts to democrat officials. Thrush emailed Clinton Campaign<\/a> chairman john podesta, please dont share or tell anyone i did this because i have become a hack i will send u the whole section that pertains to u. Tell me if i effed up anything. And interview pitch for chelsea clinton, offering to provide questions precisely agreed upon in advance. Nosurprises. I would work with you on topics, and would start with anything she wants to cover or make news on. Quicker than a network hit and reaching an audience you care about with no risk. Emails clinton officials often talked about placing stories with friendly officials. A clinton aide dictated three conditions to mar inder, including, you, in your own voice, describe hillarys speech as muscular. Got it, replied ambinder. And then theres cnbc anchor and New York Times<\/a> contributor john harwood, who moderated a republican debate. John harwood lets be honest, is this the comic book version of a president ial campaign . Donald trump no, its not a comic book and its not a very nicely asked question. Sharyl behind the scenes, harwood offered compliments, helpful thoughts, and analyses to the Clinton Campaign<\/a>, even asking, what should i ask jeb in speakeasy interview of the dealings clearly crossed an ethical line. Frank when i was covering George Herbert<\/a> walker bush, i was invited to go interview the president , provided i asked him about only one subject, and i said, no, i cant do that. Im not going to do that. I will not agree to that. Even though it was a hot subject, i would i refused to take on those, that burden and those rules and those constraints. Sharyl i think a lot of journalists are saying yes now. Frank sesno a lot of journalists are saying yes now. Sharyl the big miss may reflect growing global skepticism of information provided by oncetrusted institutions, like we saw after the wrong predictions about the u. K. Vote to exit from the European Union<\/a> or . Brexit. The punditry, the prediction, the polls all came up woefully short in this campaign. If we dont do better next time, the remaining credibility that the News Business<\/a> has is going to shrink even further. Sharyl what does it do to our society when widespread swaths media, the polls . Frank its deep in our dna. This country was created on the backs of people who didnt trust central authority. It was mark twain who said, suppose i were an imbecile, and suppose i were a member of congress, but then i repeat myself. We have held our elected leaders in comedic contempt almost since the beginning of the republic. So, we need a little bit of balance here. Yes, its a rr we have so little confidence in our institutions and its a serious problem that needs to be addressed, but we should also understand where that comes from and some of it comes from the founding of the republic itself. Sharyl a footnote. We try to see things that other views and get outside the media bubble, which is what led me to believe that trump would not only be the nominee, but would likely be elected very early on. Sharyl this election of our discontent was fueled by many factors. One of them distrust of the government. In our full measure Rasmussen Reports<\/a> poll we asked, how confident are you that the government will act in your best interest . Only a minority, just over a third of people asked, trust the government to act in their best interest. Well over half, nearly 60 , do not. Government oversight has come up with some recommendations for president elect trump. Sean moulton says his group wants to attack the government culture when it comes to transparency and secrecy. Sean moulton one of the top issues is to have a strong policy on ethics. The Obama Administration<\/a> came in and it was a policy on lobbyists. Pres. Obama they have not funded my campaign. House. Sean that was their line in the sand, lobbyists. We think that you could change that line a bit. Its not just about lobbyists, its really about financial conflicts of interest. Another issue would be, put somebody in charge of ethics. Sharyl like a cabinet level position or an ethics czar . Sean a high level white house position. They have to have enough clout and authority that they can go to any agency and tell them that they need to change how theyre doing things and they would expect to be listened to. We would like to see whistleblower protections improved. These are people who risk their and the public about problems inside the government. And for far too long, theyve been retaliated against, they can lose their jobs. There are a lot of other areas where that principle of transparency and accountability just havent penetrated, especially around National Security<\/a> issues. So, theres a lot of secret law out there. Sharyl who passes the secret laws . Sean a lot of it comes out of whats called the foreign Intelligence Surveillance<\/a> court. And they, they do a lot, and some of it has to be secret, thats understood, but a lot of what they do, we believe, could be made public. Fix the freedom of information act. Right now, i mean, weve had, we just celebrated the 50th anniversary of foia. And, in all honesty, in those 50 years, its never worked. Sharyl i mean, thats the law thats supposed to let the press and the public apply to see Public Information<\/a> from the government. Sean its a very simple principle. Ask for information, and if it very obvious exemptions, like National Security<\/a> or privacy, then the government has to give it to you. But, if you have to wait years to get an answer to a simple question, thats not working for anybody. Sharyl are you optimistic that a government led by President Trump<\/a> will change some of these things . Sean im hopeful. I have to be, because there are some good signs and there are some warning signs. Hes talked a lot about ethics, about draining the swamp, about changing the way ger operates. Mr. Trump we will drain the swamp in washington, d. C. [applause] sean im hopeful that when President Trump<\/a> gets to washington, that he follows through on some of those promises, and the lack of transparency on his tax returns still worries me. It really does, that he could come into the white house and have a similar attitude now towards his new business, the jobs, or lack of them, is an issue that helped propel donald trump to the presidency. Scott thuman found a place in where there were plenty of good sharyl now that we know who will fill job one in the white house, we can turn to employment challenges facing the rest of the country. Over half of recent College Graduates<\/a> say theyre working in jobs that dont require a College Degree<\/a> and carrying an average student debt of 37,000. Where students are landing highpaying jobs, bypassing debt, and filling a critical need in a skills gap in america. Scott it was a policy point that rang out again and again in the president ial campaign. Mr. Trump thousands of jobs, leaving michigan, leaving ohio. Mrs. Clinton hes shipped jobs to 12 countries, including mexico. Scott but for all the hand wringing about the loss of manufacturing jobs, the reality is plenty of Foreign Companies<\/a> employing more than 2. 5 million americans nationwide. German giant siemens is one of them. At its charlotte, North Carolina<\/a> factory, it is Building Energy<\/a> efficient generators that it sells to power plants across the u. S. And the world. This isnt your grandfathers factory floor. Siemens needs sophisticated machinists, coders, and engineers and pays handsomely when it finds them. Roger collins were programing robots in here, programming machine tools, this kind of work is not for an underachiever. Scott Roger Collins<\/a> trains the workers. Collins says when the Company Expanded<\/a> its factory from generators to gas turbines in 2011, it realized it had a problem. Roger we had to hire 800 people very fast and just couldnt find the qualified people out on the job market to meet the needs of this facility. Scott to fill the pipeline, siemens went down the road to give College Students<\/a> practical skills and jobs upon graduation. Chad robinson its not the normal route, but this is a route that more people should be taking. Scott both Chad Robinson<\/a> and orkhan patsiyev had eyed fouryear colleges, but balked at the price of tuition. What would college have cost you . Chad it probably wouldve cost me up to between 80,000 100,000 all together to finish out there. So, not having that on my shoulders is a huge deal. Going to a fouryear college, you have to pay for tuition and its too much. Scott instead, robinson and patsiyev became apprentices for siemens, which picks up the tab for their degrees, pays for all their books, and gives them paid, onthejob training. Orkhan this apprenticeship really brings a very, very Good Opportunity<\/a> for me to go to college, experience on the job, and then, at the end, have a job. Chad one of my friends, he Just Graduated College<\/a> with a fouryear degree and now hes working at best buy. Striving for. And with us, after we finish our four years with the apprenticeship, were fully guaranteed a job thats going to make a base salary of 55,000 about, and, i mean, you cant ask for much better than that. Scott apprenticeships are common in germany and Northern Europe<\/a> and Vocational Training<\/a> used to be the norm in america, too. But in recent decades, a college for all . Mentality has kicked in, financed by cheap loans courtesy of uncle sam. Apprenticeships, by contrast, offer a different pathway, from workforce. This is a playground for you. Roger oh, absolutely, absolutely. This is like mecca. A lot of students, you know, theyre studying geometry and trigonometry and algebra and courses like that, and theyre wondering where in the world am i going to use this . We use it here every day. Scott does it seem crazy to you that more companies arent doing this . Roger it does, very much so. Scott collins says siemens is hardly doing this out of the kindness of their heart. Pays off in the development of a highly skilled workforce, a teachable moment, perhaps, for u. S. Companies and colleges. Is this the future . Roger absolutely. Absolutely the future. There is no way, in the current educational system, that were going to be able to fill the technologically advanced jobs that we have here. Scott skillsbased training has always had bipartisan packing best backing. Congress appropriated 90 million to an Apprenticeship Program<\/a> on top of 175 million the department of labor handed out last year. Sharyl what about under a Trump Administration<\/a> . Scott he has certainly made the concept of ringing just being an apprentice popular. He said he will be the greatest jobs producing president got ever created. So far, no details from his campaign on what they will do for apprenticeship or Vocational Training<\/a>. Sharyl we will see if it is sharyl most of the media are admitting theyve lost contact with america. I promise we havent. Were starting a series well call pulse. Full measure correspondent joce sterman begins with a trip to rural mississippi. . Joce poplarville, mississippi is hardly a place youd consider powerful enough to sway an election. Theres exactly one stoplight. The courthouse sits across from proclaims their status as the blueberry capital. When you want to know what gets a longshot candidate elected president , you go to dimples. Dimples Fried Chicken<\/a> is the center of small town life in this part of mississippi. Its also a classic example of Donald Trumps<\/a> america. Jason meador i think theres a sense of calm because this is a strong republican area. Joce jason meador is the owner. Like many here, he senses life has changed this week. Jason were all probably still in shock. Joce for some, it is the surprise that trump, the anticandidate, the man they say shares their language and their concerns, has actually won the white house. Its what they point to as a sign the country is moving in their direction for the first time in years. Are people here now more hopeful . Nick i just feel like people have something more to look forward to something new, something different. Something to bring jobs back feel like its a fresh start, kind of. Joce issues like the economy, all of trumps talking points struck home. In one day, with one election, these folks say they finally see a turning point. Max smith aint no way he can straighten out the mess thats there in four years. Eight years aint going to get it done. But its got to start somewhere. The taxpayers, the blue collar, the working people cannot continue to support two thirds of the world. Joce support for trump is not even in the reddest of states and towns like this one, some say they too have felt a shift. Katrina mizell i dont think its a positive one. I think we will have war. Joce Katrina Mizell<\/a> owns a coffee shop in poplarville that she says has taken heat for its stance on diversity. Shes in the minority here and shes scared. Katrina ive just seen more division and more hate. Joce do you think that will change . Katrina i hope it will die down, but i dont think its going to change. Joce the changemaker this time around was the new approach to small towns like poplarville werent impressed by Clintons Campaign<\/a> coffers. They couldnt be swayed by celebrities like beyonce. Simply put, in places where faces are so few you know them all by name, donald trump didnt need the political machine. His supporters just needed to feel he was one of them. Jason all the fakeness, all the prepackaging, the precanned, i think its what cost her the election. I think she has just sell Fried Chicken<\/a>. [laughter] joce in poplarville, mississippi, im joce sterman for full measure. Sharyl coming up next week on the border. We go inside the fbis Border Corruption Task<\/a> force to the dark side talk about agency announcer the following is a paid presentation for the oxygen 8 fat loss system. If you have 25 pounds or more to lose, this message is tailormade for you. If youre ready to take your fitness in your own hands, this message is g and if you want to see results fast without hours of exercise or starving yourself or weighing in at weekly meetings. In fact, if you would like to do it for only eight minutes a day, this is for you. If i have only one life to live, let me lose the weight now. 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