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Station in Denver doing in science and environmental stories with political slants to them on occasion and Public Policy and along comes an explosion of animal mutilation cases a really strange mystery that led you on the past to where you are now I wonder is there any time as you were pursuing this that you said yourself I made a mistake that this is this is not for me. This is getting too crazy too dangerous you know I know you've had warnings and threats and you're running to your share of really crazy people ever get to the point where you thought maybe I need to change directions. It's interesting that. This is 40 years after that 1st discussion with your text Graves' up and Sterling and. It never ever came to a point where I felt that I could leave this story except within the 1st week or 2 after I had decided to investigate animal needle ations because of all the headlines that were in the Rocky Mountain News and The Denver Post and I was catching myself up at that point I had no knowledge about animal mutilations for a couple weeks before that meeting with the sheriff who left me with the clear implication that the only way that all of this surgery without was around this year on all of that powder dust could have occurred is as he said this animal had to have been picked up and it had to have been put down from the air for us to see a scene like this and that I was hitting the sentence when he said save you some time the perpetrators of these animal mutilations are creatures from outer space when you go back to 979 and that decade that is what law enforcement and ranchers were saying that they were creatures from outer space because and I ended up talking with some of these ranchers myself. Just like the sheriff who has seen beams of light out in pastures and is seen around glowing does I interviewed ranchers who would never They said don't turn a camera on me don't put audio but I'll tell you I have seen a beam come down at night and I've seen one of my animals rise up in a beam of light and it scared me so much I went back to the ranch house and I waited until the sun came up and when I went right back to that pasture there was my animal lying there dead and mutilated so there was this background with ranchers and law enforcement who knew that the phenomenon of animal mutilations going back to at least $161.00 in North America perhaps much earlier perhaps the right to the beginning of the 20th century in Australia and that this eyewitness is seeing these beams and the technology and then people like the. Montana in Great Falls there was a sheriff's office there where they had to raided edges and they had. All kinds of lights and beans that were being described to them and so the the whole u f o fabric of the animal mutilations was there right from the very beginning and it was so funny it was only 2 weeks into the research that I said to myself. I don't think that I want to continue investigating these animals and went to my office with the intent of just because I was director of the office that I would just change to another subject that I already had on the list because I did 3 or 4 documentaries and life video shows every year and new segments so I was ready to get out of what was feeling like a very uncomfortable story and I still remember I can see the keys going in to the lock on my office door and that it was 9 o'clock and by noon I had taken 2 or 3 phone calls that left me more determined than ever before that I was going to get to the bottom of the animal mutilations and there were strange things like that that happen George and it probably it happened to you where you think that you have free will but this entire 40 years has been as if I was put on a path that had a certain destiny to keep going and after those 1st 2 weeks no I never ever wanted to turn away from the story that ultimately comes to the question Who are we homo sapiens humans on the surface of this planet who made us who manipulated d.n.a. And already evolving primates to put us here which I've read in more than one document of the government and interesting Lee enough you read from that 1960 s. Air Force article well a decade before that I have. In Currently I posted it earlier tonight at my news earth files because I wanted to acknowledge another headline just in the last week or so. Why the idea of alien life now seems inevitable and possibly imminent and this is come from the conversation recently that also some arise from the Griffith Review and as a reporter on this is kept out O'Connell he's a researcher and at the Vincent Hospital at the University of Melbourne and Australia and it is an extremely good article that is now circulating around with that title why the idea of alien life now seems inevitable and possibly imminent Well I put together a report tonight it Earth files which is there and I included the photograph of page one of 9 that I have in photographic form that I've had for 1518 years top secret project Aquarius formally named Project gleam from 16 volumes about U.F.O.'s and I a.c.s. Which are identified aerial craft a briefing paper shown to President Jimmy Carter during his administration from 1977 to 1981 and this one page that I included is about Project Aquarius and this is literal to a document that goes back to having been put together in the 1950s a decade before what you read and this shows how much our government has hidden quote. This top secret or con pro or dance contains 16 volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of the United States investigation of and identify flying objects and identified alien craft and that implies that they have identified something having to do with the u.f.o. Phenomena the project was originally established in 1953 by order of President Eisenhower under control of the National Security Council and m j 12 that is the Majestic 12 group appointed by President Truman in 1907. Having to do with U.F.O.'s and e.t. In 1966 the project's name was changed from Project gleem to project Aquarius the project was funded by CIA confidential funds not appropriated the project was originally classified secret but was upgraded to its present classification in December of 1969 after Project Blue Book was closed the purpose of project Aquarius was to collect all scientific technological medical and intelligence information from u.f.o. Sightings and our contact with alien life form this orderly file of collected information has been used to advance the United States space program and the proceeding briefing is an historical account of the United States government's investigation of aerial phenomena recovered alien aircraft and contacts with extraterrestrial life forms close quote page one of 9 and those 9 pages George are simply a skeletal outline from the 16 volumes about U.F.O.'s and I see is that you and I and others and Bob Wills are and on and on have heard about the 16 volumes that have been accumulated in by today they may be 56 volumes. Let me ask you this I don't we know they're e.t.c we we know they're aliens they they look like aliens the reports from eyewitnesses and you know they their appearances vary from encounter to encounter we know that they have craft that week we can't duplicate they have materials that we can't duplicate there are there others but are we sure that they're e.t.c And I ask it in this context because you know the people that said that if I were to have worked with an interviewed and sources I've had over the years they call them aliens it's almost like a placeholder name the assumption being that they're a tease because they don't really have an explanation. Well. In my. Second book my 1st book was an alien harvest about all of my work in animal mutilations and then the next book a 2 volume book winces of other realities Volume One facts and eye witnesses followed by glimpses Volume 2 high strangeness I did a taxonomy largely in color from illustrations that I had gathered from people in the human abduction syndrome about their often conscious face to face with non humans and also their unconscious or abductions and then memories in dreams and it's many many pages in my book glimpses volume one. That show various types and that book came out in 1994 and so between 1979 when I started a strange harvest the documentary on the animal mutilations and 1994 I had moved to human abductions as added to the animal mutilations and had been collecting all of this material and by then by 1994 it was becoming clear to me that we were largely dealing with androids clones or robots a robot technically is made out of inorganic matter and Android is organic both do robotic chores for something that I would call a prime intelligence and that I began with that book and then evolving today to try to understand what the relationship would be between prime intelligences who have conflict with each other who can then manufacture androids clones robots a menagerie from organic or self activating software that which fall into a category of extremely advanced materials. That would be used on not just our planet but maybe many planets throughout the Milky Way galaxy so that the prime intelligence does not have to do the travelling and we are already at that intersection where we are beginning to build ai to have conversations with humans and to do scientific work and that's us imagine if you have a 1000 years on us and many assessments that I have seen in documents and in a few people that I've talked to say. Some of the technologies that we have recovered or they have been placed in our hands on purpose sort of like Trojan Horse actions to put humans on paths of certain technological evolution that the estimate is that at least some of the intelligences interacting with Earth have technologies at least a 1000 years beyond us and if all of that is true then the idea is that what we are dealing with most of the time whether it's in craft that are doing 90 degree turns at 10000 miles an hour or something else that is interacting with a human and a human thinks that it's dealing with something biological but certainly not human then you had that range of categories these would be made for specific work on this planet in this gravity in this atmosphere and they would fall into the categories of androids biological robot cloning a whole different category clones are identical organic duplications and then the robot which could be self activating software of a very advanced nature that might be useful on the moon and other places beyond Earth so now the issue is cool precisely are the prime intelligences that would make nice menageries of androids clones and robots and that's where you get to that often cited division of humanoids tall or. With hair or without hair but humanoid sort of human looking and then something that is in a reptilian category and something that is in the so-called Eban category of grey skin and there are other things insects might be one of the more important categories that we know very little about. The Ronald Reagan. Briefing at Camp David which was released about I think was 2007 in. The big huge sigh of alleged official or unofficial D.I.'s CIA n.s.a. . Content about U.F.O.'s N.E.T.'s on the web that one of the documents was an alleged transcript of William Casey appointed by Ronald Reagan to be the director of CIA when Reagan took office January 20th of 1900 $81.00 and the transcript is dated March 6 to $8981.00 at Camp David and the entire transcript is Casey with n.s.a. CIA d.i.m.a. Possibly n.r.o. Analysts there to give a briefing to President Reagan about 5 different types of extraterrestrial biological entities and Casey and the briefers break down these 5 in this transcript. The top of the list of 5 are the even. And they are. Described to Reagan as being extraterrestrial biological entities from data ridiculous I want into that have the ability to manufacture. Genetically manipulate clone and every other way of creating. Very various types of life or that they want by hybridization mixing and matching. I'm going to have to stop you there Linda work take a break when we come back we'll take a couple of calls and questions I have one more for you before we go to the phones Robbie Williams our friend the classic song has an early hit advertising space takes us into the break to access the audio archives of coast to coast am going to coast to coast am. Homes and body elegance with exquisite craftsmanship impressive amenities spaces interiors all built in highly desirable neighborhoods just visit under Rosa homes to see all of the features and locations. 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