As the Tierra was always cutting edge he follows the developing stories especially those that are breaking in Israel and so friends I've asked him to come onto the show today and help us to make sense of what is happening in Israel thank you Michael for being with us thanks Pastor Larry it's always a great honor and a privilege to be with you well to start we know there have been 2 elections concerning the office of Prime Minister during the last year and there wasn't a clear winner Michael in your opinion what prompted Israel to be split down the middle and where do you think this is heading as there is no clear cut government in place of this time well after 2 elections for prime minister in 2019 in Israel and no winner we must ask how and why did this happen this all stemmed from 10215000 Palestinians trying to penetrate Israel at the Gaza border and 2018 it got to be very ugly as the protesters flew firebomb kites over into Israel creating fires in farmer's fields on the Israeli side on April 13th 2018 the Palestinian protesters hurled explosive devices fire bombs and grenades at Israeli troops at the border fence during what Israeli forces described as several attempts to breach the border so as to cross into Israeli territory. And it ition to that merits of cocktails that's bottles of gasoline with a torch on it and other explosive devices were thrown at Israeli soldiers of course there was no outcry from the world press the United Nations or e.u. European Union the Arab protest was dubbed the March of return in conjunction with Israel's 70th anniversary that's $948.00 to 2018 about $290.00 Palestinians were killed during that year and that protest went on for several months by November 2018 Defense Minister Avigdor or Lieberman Prime Minister Netanyahu wasn't doing enough to combat the terrorist. As a result Lieberman resigned as defense secretary and to be fair this couldn't have happened at a worse time because when Lieberman left a supposed he took with him many Knesset seats which was why the following year Mr Netanyahu couldn't get enough seats in the election to win the other beef Lieberman had with Netanyahu cooed party was the you're ready or culture Orthodox men are exempt from serving in the i.d.f. Or Israeli defense forces there's been a battle over that for years if Lieberman and his followers were to support Netanyahu Netanyahu would clearly have enough seats to win but up to now they haven't buried the hatchet there's only one time before 2 political parties had a stalemate which was in 1904 the election between Yitzhak Shamir and shown Pereira's in that case one candidate served 2 years followed by the other man serving 2 years we're hoping this time around maybe both parties will make some kind of concessions were by a deal can be made just another parallel Pastor Larry both America and Israel split down the middle. Wow That's very perceptive and division is always a serious thing it certainly weakens a group a country a church or whatever but Brother Mike we know that Israel lives in a very dangerous neighborhood from Hezbollah on more than one border and rockets by the hundreds being lobbed into Israel from Gaza it appears that there's a new player against Israel and the country of Turkey is what we want to look at can you tell us a little bit about Turkey's history do they have gone then or are they a threat to Israel at the present time well that's a very great question Pastor Larry up to recently Turkey which is technically a NATO ally of America and was for many years a good ally and prior to 2014 was actually very helpful to the state of Israel under the table if you will but all of that changed in 2014 when recep Eartha won became president of Turkey I've often said Turkey is the 800 pound gorilla in the region its military has a larger than England France and Germany combined but let's go briefly back to 1971 Turkey became a nation must stop at a Turk was the statesman over 80 years ago who shifted Turkey from a predominantly Islamic nation to a modern secular nation Ataturk was truly a godsend to this fledgling nation but around 2002 within a year after $911.00 the islamic a cape party in Turkey was swept into power also mentally this Islamic Party are sure to want into power in 2014 as you know there was an unsuccessful coup against her to won in 2016. It wasn't a pretty picture after Rita won sent over 50000 people to prison and who knows how many were executed I think it's important for the listeners to know brother Larry the u.s. Military has tactical nuclear weapons at the u.s. Air base in Incirlik Turkey of course this is been reported in the news and America was always careful in its placement of nuclear assets in foreign countries in November 2015 a Turkish f. 16 fighter plane shot down a Russian fighter plane that strayed into Turkey's airspace up to that point Russian Turkey weren't exactly good friends by 2017 that's only a couple years ago Turkey and Russia buried the hatchet and became very close political and military allies you asked the question is Turkey a threat to Israel the answer is a resoundingly yes especially since Turkey is acquired Russian as 400 surface to air missiles which are a very serious threat to Israel's war plans on another point Pastor Larry I think your audience oughta know President Eartha wine was put at the helm of the Oh I see which is the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. This organization which began in 1969 is centered on forming an overwhelming force to destroy the state of Israel with the goal of creating another Middle East caliphate when President Trump voted or buyout I should say to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in December 2017 the Oh I see invited her to want to become the head of the organization which obviously he was very happy to do the Oh I see is now directing their hate and oppression against the Kurds living in Syria as well as Turkey the 1st caliphate actually started in the 14th century with Morocco the 1st in 1360 to 80 there's debate as to when it ended but no question it was gone by 1924 you asked about goals it's important for the folks to know Mr Ertel want has set a goal of 2024 as of the year the caliphate will be in place in most of the Middle East and Mr Erdogan won has every expectation to be the leader of it. Wow that sounds ominous to me and 2024 is not very far away and the way you describe things from Ataturk then 2000 to Dak party and we can see the direction that all of that is moving and well from my guy recently in an e-mail to me you refer to Iran Turkey and Russia as the evil empire What did you mean by that and do you think the as equals chapter 38 war has a direct connection to these countries I mean we also see Libya included in this band of nations do you believe all these countries are forming into this future prophecy that the Bible speaks about well that's a good question and it would have been on thinkable 4 years ago that Russia Turkey and Iran would be military allies but it's all come about in just a couple years there's differences of opinion about when the god may God of War and as he kill chapter $38.39 takes place but I am of the opinion it happens towards the end of the 7 year tribulation the 1st 3 verses and as they kill chapter 38 depict Russia and Persia or Iran and verse 5 and to Garma in verse 6 is Turkey in my opinion this alignment which is never happened in previous history is now for the very 1st time in human history firmly in place in verse number 5 a-C. Kill 38 says a Libya or poet p h u t as some versions of the Bible have it I am of the opinion this Libya or poet is indicative of a people group such as Kush as mentioned in Genesis Chapter 10 verses x. And 1st Chronicles Chapter one Verse 8. If this is correct we can pinpoint this will be or put located in the Horn of Africa around Somalia and Djibouti today so what's the big picture brother Mike this will be in the Bible could be chip booty this little country Djibouti in the Horn of Africa is home to a large u.s. Naval base called Camp why many are in the same country the Chinese also have a brand new naval base keep in mind this could be the places e.q. Chapter 38 is talking about just think China has assets in Syria along with the Russians it's just another location missiles could be directed against Israel yes the vices getting tighter around little Israel but the good news is Pastor Larry Israel may be the size of New Jersey by God calls them an exceeding great army and because he killed Chapter 37 verse 10 and I would want to be their side a man then I would want America to be on their side too you mention Djibouti and I believe the you know there might be some listeners looking that up and Wikipedia doesn't start with a d. As in David d.j. I think yes the way you spelled your beauty is d.j. I b o u t i i write so for the us it wasn't correct I never thought of that connection but with the Chinese there the Americans their missiles there that's very very significant Well Mike in our last few months ago we had you on Southwest Radio Church discussing your new d.v.d. Joseph in Egypt we had a great time in that and you discussed many prophecies that were embedded in this Bible story that many of us never heard before as an example you state that there is a type and shadow future free trip branch or and the 7 year tribulation hidden in the story and on top of that he said. Story of yours of an age or could possibly be showing us the approximate time frame return of Jesus the Messiah could you briefly give us an explanation as to why you believe that I want to tell our listening audience that we are offering that d.v.d. Joseph in Egypt Yes Well just to keep it simple with our time constraints the day that Joseph is going to reveal his identity to his Jewish brothers as alluded to in Genesis Chapter 45 he has all the non jewish servant believers leave the room and you'll find that in Genesis 45 1st one we strongly believe this is a type and shadow of the rapture Joseph is evacuating all the non Jews out of the area so he can be alone with his Jewish brothers just as Christ reveals his identity to Israel his Jewish brothers and sisters on the day of the Lord our 2nd Advent at the end of the tribulation but going back to Joseph It's the 3rd time the brothers are in the land he reveals himself or brother Larry it's the 3rd time the Jews are in the land today the 1st time the Jews entered the Promised Land with Joshua the 2nd time as Israel leaves Persia to go back home under King Cyrus after 70 years of captivity and of course the 3rd time was 948 in a nutshell it's the 3rd time Israel's in the land today and in the not too distant future Jesus is the Messiah will reveal himself to his Jewish brothers and sisters Amen Wow what a day that will be will brother Mike it's really exciting to have you I know you are working on a new d.v.d. I believe and I think you said it's going to be ready in December is that correct. Yes your I believe will be ready next month in December Well we're looking forward to having you back on the program so thank you so much for your research and I love tapping into your your understanding of current events brother Matthew please come to the bike and tell our listeners about our special offer. Thank you Pastor Larry our special offer today is the new d.v.d. Titled The mystery of the red heifer you can have your copy for a gift of $20.00 if you live in the United States and 30 dollars if you live in Canada to place your order just car call center 180-652-1144 you can also place your order by writing to us at Post Office Box 76834 Oklahoma City Oklahoma 73147 and of course you can order this special offer on our website at s w r c dot com Also available is the popular d.v.d. By Michael Smith titled The Cyrus effect you can have a copy of this favorite d.v.d. 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That would allow Beijing to try citizens of Hong Kong this wouldn't from Hong Kong would face hostile tribunals and fear they would never be returned to Hong Kong the Beijing government has a sad history of assassinations and kidnappings However the extradition legislation was one of many other perceived abuses that embolden the protesters among other things the charges that the Beijing government was not honoring its 1907 promise of one state 2 systems the desire for real democratic reform and Beijing's insistence that candidates for high office in Hong Kong would be supplied by Beijing also promoted hostility on the part of the residents of Hong Kong he has more of an end feeling the lack of trust was the Causeway Bay Books incident 5 individuals involved in publishing sensitive political materials that were critical of the Chinese Communist Party had disappeared the circumstances of their disappearance and the flavor of foul play suggested that the disappearances were the suppression of free political speech by the communist government as the protest have continued added fuel has been thrown on the growing fire of dissent there have been charges of police brutality and the growing violent tactics to work some of the protesters have resorted while a hard core group of protesters say that the extreme actions are needed to get the attention of the free world the violence has led some Christians and their families in Hong Kong to side with the police it pull conducted by the Center for communication and public opinion survey at the Chinese University of Hong Kong found that 70 percent of respondents do not trust the police to some degree with 52 percent saying they have 0 trust in the police however the erosion of trust in the police has been very difficult on some of the police officers many of whom attend churches in Hong Kong. They feel that no one except or appreciates them any longer a change in attitude that the police feel is not justified once known as Asia's finest Hong Kong police officers now receive death threats and are met with angry charges and shouts of corrupt cops some protesters hurl Moeller talk cocktails bricks and corrosive liquids of the police and at times gang up to attack them on October 13th Hong Kong Police reported that protesters remotely detonated a homemade explosive device on a road near where police were clearing road blocks Sadly the spouses and children of police officers are also receiving threats some find their personal information posted online while others say their children face discrimination at schools some police officers have even left their churches because of their church in support of the protest and also because fellow church members view them of the hostility fade dissatisfaction of many Hong Kong citizens with a hardline Beijing government is a good thing Chinese President Xi Jinping is amount wished and every sense of the word has made his hostility against Christianity evident in many ways including tearing down church buildings disrespect for basic human rights harsh rhetoric and a general disdain for anyone who does not accept the tenets of the Chinese Communist Party however when some pastors in Hong Kong and church members side with the protesters police officers who believe they are simply trying to do their job and keep peace from Hong Kong find that Christianity leaves a bad taste in their mouths to them the protestors are looking more like mindless rioters they wonder if perhaps the Chinese Communist Party is doing the right thing in seeking to exterminate Christianity some pastors in Hong Kong have observed that some police officers are more resistant then ever before against the gospel because they view Christians. As siding with lawless protestors and allowing them to take shelter in their churches and the the church in Hong Kong is a house divided punk on pastors and leaders are walking a fine line between members who support the protests and members who support the police they have people in their congregations people who passionately are both sides of the controversy many of the younger Christians in Hong Kong think that the church in Hong Kong isn't doing enough to fight the abuses that they see Beijing imposing on Hong Kong at the same time Christians who are more pro-government complain of pastors whom they feel have mix church and politics and are to openly support of the protests some have changed churches because of political differences June Chang writing an article that appeared in the November 9th issue of World magazine writes quote I spoke to 10 Hong Kong church leaders about what it's been like past 3 during such to mulcher was times some of OJT all discussion about politics inside the church while others bring up current events in their sermons despite pushback they all describe the difficulty in finding unity among the Christian community at this time close quote pes or Larry this is a very bad situation Jesus Christ has lost his witness in Hong Kong because of the division I think much of the division is justified there is obvious wrong on both sides in the church in Hong Kong maintain a consistent Christian witness and yet not be too closely identified with either side well that's a really important question Marvin and in my estimation there's division in the ranks of groups that call themselves Christian and identify with Jesus Christ as really intolerable is doing a great harm to the witness of the church churches must not have their witness to Christ cancelled by becoming too closely identified with either side and they surely must not become embroiled. In a cycle of escalating violence for what it's worth I believe that churches need to unite on some basic principles that need to be published and made available for public dissemination these principles are broad enough so that a number of different Christian groups of various doctrinal persuasion can stand together and maintain a Christian witness pistol or why don't you share these principles with our listeners you are right we don't want a Christian witness lost in Hong Kong because the church is a house divided Well Marvin's here are my suggested principles that hopefully will establish a degree of unity in the churches and maintain a Christian witness 1st of all this is the statement that they need to publish we believe that the Bible is the Word of God and cannot be altered or changed by any human governing body will pass a Larry I think just about every Christian group can affirm that who was the next principal But secondly this is what I believe needs to be published we believe in religious liberty and in the freedom of each individual to why the reject the tenets of the Christian faith or to accept them will pass away or adding to everyone who names the name of Christ can abide by that to what is the 3rd principle that you suggest well the 3rd principle is this and this is another principle that needs to be publicly affirmed while we affirm the right of Christians to peacefully protest and make his or her views known we seek a peaceful and nonviolent solution to all disagreements and the 4 friends wall and the last one is really important we will pursue a solution that is in complete accord with the principles clearly articulated in the one country 2 systems approach originally established in the 1997 agreement. Thank you Pastor Larry our special off