Big business can help communities who are asking, what rekoh are ri . And do you think that the Community Map can be expanded for 2016 . We won in red states, blue states and more purple states. And surprise they may be seeing more blue than ever before. Im chuck todd and joining us are eric canter and stephanie cutter, former adviser to president obama, amy cook, as well as my colleague over at msnbc and telemundo, jose diaz valart. It has been a drubbing. It happened to george bush and to barack obama in 2010 and now history has repeated itself tuesday. There is some localizing of the e elections and the vaunted turnout efforts and democrats thought some luck could hold the losses down. Well, nothing worked. Pick the adjectives, beating, trouncing, shellacking, and all of them fitting for what happened to the Democratic Party. Another way to describe the election is what happened to president barack obama even if he does not see it that way. Every election a moment for reflection. I think that everybody in the white house is going to say, okay, what do we need to do differently. They will have a lot to reflect on. It was always projected to be a good night for the senate republicans, and it ended up to be a memorable one with the gop picking up seven seats and most li likely alaska and louisiana will give them nine. But it was the gubernatorial races as they watched blue h state, maryland, massachusetts and illinois pick republican governors and adding to that other states where they were vulnerable like maine and wisconsin and florida, where they picked up nothing. It was a drubbing where the republicans picked up 11 more legislative chambers giving them a more advantage over the democrats. This is serious implications over the structure of government and elections and not only e redistricting in 2011 but the early voting laws and the timing of voting and how politics will be conducted in many of the places. One of the few bright spots for the losing team, voters in five states approved voter minimum wage increases. Joining me now is the governor of wisconsin, scott walker, after winning his blue state for the fourth time in with wisconsin and many rocketed Governor Walker to the top of many of the list of potential president ial lists. Thank you for coming on. Thank you, chuck, for having me on. And 52. 3 , and 52. 3 in the recall, and 53 for you and barack obama in 2008 and 53 in 2012 and a pat e tern here, and i think that we know what your ceiling is 53 , and the president s ceiling is maybe higher than that, but is there an obama walker voter, and if so, who are they . Well, in our case, we had doubledigits with thement in with the independents, and we cant win in our state withoutt the doubledigit independent voters. So we reached out to the Younger Voters and not just the traditional voters go ourg way. You said that one of the reasons that you had success in wisconsin and president obama had success in wisconsin is that you were principled in the beliefs, and do you believe that centrism does not work in wisconsin, and they want to pick something progressive or something conservative, but they dont want anything in the middle . I think that in wisconsin, we are very much like america, independent voters who decide elections in swing states like ours want people to lead and have big bold ideas and act on them. Four years ago in my state, everything was blue, the republicans with were out of power in the assembly and the senate and the governorship, and in the election of 2010, i told the majority to put up or shut up time meaning that we are less bad than the democrats before us, the voters would have every reason to throw us out, and four years later, we sit and not only did i win for the fourth time, and added to the majorities in the house and the senate, and a message to washington. Is this something that you believe will translate nationally . Well, in our case, certainly, we had a slowdown early on with the protests, but in the last year, we saw the best from septembertoseptember, and the best private sector job growth in more than a decade and the Unemployment Rate down from 9. 2 in 2010 down to 5. 5 , and if you lower the taxes and ease the regulations and put the power back in the hands of the people to kree dree yat the jobs, it will happen. But in wage growth, it is below the National Average, wisconsin is, and when it comes to job growth, it is below the National Average and the tax cut policy has created a larger deficit, 1. 8 million deficit hole that you have to plug next year in part because of the state revenues did not come in as expected. Is it possible that the idea of cutting the the taxes to create jobs and stimulate the economy is not working in wisconsin . No, it is the opposite. The reason that the revenues are down is because we cut withholding. That is where the government will take your money, and we cut that in a april and so we anticipated that redk snun april, because we gave that money back to the hardworking people. And so the no growth does not change the budget, does not happen. Because we have a budget starting with more than of a surplus happening, and so if you compare that to illinois who raised a taxes and with ee lowe taxes, and thank god they elected bruce raumer, because they will be able to tirurn it over as well. And i dont know if you were taking a a vailed shot at john kasich, but it is that you were critical of him taking the money which is going to make it more difficult for him to balance the budget, and giving hill Health Insurance to a lot of people above the poverty line and you dont want to do that, but do you have second thoughts . No, from our standpoint with we did something unique from any other state in the country. For the first time in the country, not a person is on a waiting list for poverty. We have access to health care and with we dont put the taxpayers at risk. States who have taken the Medicaid Expansion are betting on the fact that the congress and the president who cant deal with the 17 trillion debt are going to come up with the money, and they havent come up with the money as we speak. So you think that governor kasich came up with a mistake . Well, again, every state is different and i wont criticize individual governors, but in our case, i wont bank on the the federal government to bank on something, because they have shorted other states across the country and wisconsin and relying on the federal government to balance your budget is a fools bet. You made your name having to do with the collective bargaining issue in wisconsin. So there is an agreement over the years that if you come into the public sector, teacher, firefighter, police officer, in exchange for not et getting a publicsectorlike salary, you will get a pension, and protected retirement like in the form of a pension which many in the private sector dont get, and do you still believe in the basic agreement . Well, in the end, providing for good decent hard serving Public Servants is a good thing to do. My brother and sister who work at sears said they would love to have the deal you offer your public ser vapts. We match their pension, and the average family in the state is paying 20 to 25 , and we provide a good deal and they dont have to pay union dues. And you do still believe in the pension for the government workers . Yes, and i do and they will be guaranteed because of the reforms we have that were put in place before i came into office and the ones i put in after i came in office. Do you plan on going . Is. I plan on going for the next four year, and i deeply care for my state and my country. Do you defer to paul ryan. I said i would be the president of the the paul ryan fan club. But if we beat Hillary Clinton, we have to say that hillary c n clinton is all about washington and in many ways she was the big loser tuesday, because she embodies everything that is wrong with washington, and now, all of the people have executive experience outside of washington have a good fresh approach from the the bottomup, and that is what you are going to get to the stat states. You are not deferring to paul ryan, but you are looking for a member of congress to be the nominee . Paul rand and others who are not a member of congress will make the best leaders. And thank you for coming on. Thank you, chuck. Go, packers and now, despite a juicy sound bite, the president avoid ed a way to describe the election results, but there were ways to lick the wounds. I must confess i have sadness tonight. And surveying the the wreckage, there was blame of the president and unfriendly map and off year electorate. For those who voted, i hear you. For the 2 3rds of voters who chose not to vote, i hear you, to too. And it is an ebbing of the republican voters. And there is fingerpoint in. Harry reid said that the president s Approval Rating is barely 40 , and what more is there to say . And others argue that tuesdays losses were not a disaster. We have had better nights, and worse nights. In 2006, the republicans lost 30 seat, and we lost about 15. There is a word for that, spin. Not only did the republicans win the senate control, they are poised to hold the largest majority in the house since herbert hoover, and it is a firewall that could take democrats a decade to break through. How did it happen . In early 2014, the democrats had a game plan to run on a populous economic message. And opportunity for all. Paexpand opportunity. Opportunity is who we are. Join the rest of the kcountr. Say yes. Give america a raise. Instead, while four red states approved minimum wage hikes by large margins tuesday, d Democratic Candidates abandoned the populous call to arms. They have successfully made this campaign a referendum on president obama which i do not believe would be all that important if we as democrats had done a better job messaging exactly what the president has done. And the Senate Democrats also insisted that the president delay executive action on immigration to save their red state candidates particularly in the south. Not only didnt it work, it may have hurt some democrats in states with large hispanic population populations. In florida where democrat Charlie Crist narrowly lost the governor race, the e electorate dipped from 17 to 13 in 2014. And in colorado, Cory Gardener improved on republican 2010 e showing in 20 of. 1 counties that had the largest hispanic population. To win, democrats believed they needed the base voters to come out, and they made the election a project of assembly the coalition groups, and that didnt happen, and instead, numbers that were posted looked more like the democratic 2010 shellacking than the obama 2012 victory leavingen the democrats asking, does the coalition exist without obama on the ballot . And there is a coalition between the white voters. In the last three elections white voters and in particular white men have broken for the republican republicans by huge margins. This year the gop won white noncollege graduate bis 30 points. How does the party are refresh itself . Dont expect the new faces to lead the congress, because both reid and nancy pelosi are expected to keep their positions, and the remaking of the party will fall at the feet of another popular democrat, Hillary Clinton. And joining me is howard dean who was tasked with repilding t rebuilding the the party after the fall in 2010. And now what do infamous defeat. The president has been brilliant with the strategy to pull it together, but for a variety of reasons and not all of them to do with the dnc. And of all of those people, jim clyburn was the most accurate, and it was message. Sure it was an off year, and we can make all of the excuses, but there the days of the 50state strategy and take thing over the house and the senate when i was running the dnc, i could not keep the washington democrats to stay on message. The republican message was, we are not obama, and no substance, and the democrat message, oh, we are not either. You cannot win if you are afraid it sounded like it. Are where the hell is the Democratic Party . You have to stand for something if you want to win. And tim balls had a rough piece. It said that it hallowed out the Democratic Party, and without prominent statewide leaders, the democrats are in trouble of seeing the party atrophy. We have a strategy. What is it . They do the training and we do the intel and they weave together this Incredible Organization that the president has done in the last eight years for his campaigns, two of the best campaigns ever run in the history of american president ials, and you are to ip still discipline and money, and you have to instill it. And the parties are focused on the gender gaps, but are they too focused on the gender gap. The numbers of white men. In 2006, democrats had 44 of white men. Nobody said they would win white men, but the democrats were competitive, but it is down to 33 . I saw that. One of the reasons is that we are not on the lunch bucket issues. When we stick to the lunch bucket issues and you saw the president s clip, and white men have been tough for us since the southern strategy of richard nixon, and so 4 is great for us 44 . If the we lose by 4 , that is terrific, but the erosion of the white men has to do with the fact that the economy is not better and the folks are under big time stress, and we have to have a message that has to do with the basic economics. It helps us all across the board, but particularly with white men. And now, there is a concern among some that because there is a coronation of Hillary Clinton that actual ly the Democratic Party could use some freshening and some new faces, and Hillary Clinton is the nominee, and probably the strongest nominee, but are you concerned that there are not going to be any other democratic no, maamnominees. Well, there are going to be other nominees. And does she need well, no other nominee needs one. Does the Democratic Party needs one . Well, we dont need one, but we will get one. It is the most Important Office of the country, and you wont have uncontested march. But the truth is that there are a number of things to debate, and we should debate income inequality and the fact that Corporation Corporations are controlling not only the republican party, but the government of the united states, and the fact that the Supreme Court has deviated from the constitution on numerous occasions, and i have yet to find where the constitution says that a corporation is a person, and there is a tremendous ke bait to be had, and so with we have to find that. And are you going to to be helping with that debate . Am i going to be running for president , no. Will i help, yes. And thank you for coming on. And another reason for the democratic loss, and we talked and another reason for the democratic loss, and we talked about it with howard dean id just gotten married. I was right out of school. My familys all military. You dont know what to expect. Then suddenly youre there. In another world. I did my job. You do your best. I remember the faces. 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