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The deal drastically curtails Irans Nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of economic sanctions. Depending on where you stand politically, its either a triumph of global diplomacy, the best available solution, or a blunder of epic proportions. Over the past few months, nearly everyone has weighed in, from president obama and the congress, to republican and democratic president ial candidates to israeli Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. But not much has been heard from the iranians. With that in mind, we traveled to tehran last week to sit down with iranian president Hassan Rouhani for the first interview he has given to a western News Organization in nearly a year. What do you think of the agreement . Hassan rouhani translated a very difficult agreement to reach, with lots of ups and downs. But its the right path we have chosen. I am happy that we have taken extremely important steps on this issue and are in the process of taking the final steps. Kroft were you surprised by the ferocity of the debate in the United States and the outcome . Rouhani it was predictable. An issue of this significance cannot be resolved without its opponents. One is surprised by the commentaries, and the commentaries are not very pleasant. Some groups and Political Parties may be against it, but the governments of the world, all together, welcomed this deal. Kroft opponents have argued that the u. S. Has given away too much for very little in return from iran agreeing to lift the sanctions on iran in exchange for, what they call, a temporary 15year freeze on nuclear operations, after which iran would be free to resume or begin work on a nuclear bomb, with far more resources than they have now. Rouhani if a country wanted, with the Technical Resources it has, to gain an atomic bomb, this deal would have been a very bad deal for it. Because the deal creates limitations from all sides to getting an atomic bomb. But if a country has been after peaceful technology from the beginning, then it has lost nothing. We wanted this incorrect accusation that iran is after Nuclear Weapons corrected and resolved, and that the goal of iran is peaceful activity. In this deal, we have accepted limitations for a period of time in order to create more trust with the world. Kroft the whole deal requires a leap of faith between two longtime enemies. The iranians have always insisted that their Nuclear Program is peaceful and that a religious fatwah prohibits them from building Nuclear Weapons. But there is little doubt that the iranians know how to build them and have had the wherewithal to do it. Now, they will be required to ship 98 of their enriched uranium out of the country, lock up thousands of centrifuges, close its bombproof enrichment facility at fordow, disable its heavy water reactor at arak, and submit to rigorous international inspections. The opposition here has also been ferocious. The deal has been attacked on state television and in hard line newspapers, and the head of the revolutionary guard has said, we will never accept it. The United States seems to have its hardliners and iran seems to have its hardliners. The opponents say essentially that they think iran has given up too much control over their Nuclear Program to the u. S. And other foreign countries, and to the i. A. E. A. Do you see similarities between the United States and iran in terms of the opposition to this . Rouhani there are similarities. Its natural that opponents always look for the maximum possible outcome. In an agreement, neither achieves the maximum. Both sides must always concede a little bit from the maximum to get an agreement. Therefore, the person who seeks the maximum complains. The result of this agreement benefits everyone, benefits both sides because we have been able to reach an understanding, an agreement, on a very complicated issue at the negotiating table and be able to prevent misunderstandings, and take the First Step Towards trust. Of course, for reaching trust between the u. S. And iran, there is need for a lot of time. Kroft some of the opponents are very powerful. The commander of the revolutionary guards, for example, has condemned the deal. How do you deal with that . Thats an important Political Force in this country. Rouhani its clear that some will be opposed, some will be in favor, will express their opinions. But at the same time, after the agreement is approved by the responsible institutions, everyone will comply with that. The revolutionary guards also, when the deal is approved by responsible institutions, they, too, will respect this agreement. Kroft president rouhanis boss, Supreme Leader ayatolllah ali khamenei, has final say on the final agreement, and has sent it to the Iranian Parliament and the Supreme National Security Council on National Security for a vigorous debate. Publicly, the ayatollah has maintained a hardline stance against the United States, while supporting the negotiations. President rouhani expressed confidence that the deal will be approved. Rouhani the majority of our people, in opinion polls, have a positive view of the agreement. And usually institutions like the parliament and the Supreme National Security Council are usually not farremoved from Public Opinion and move in that direction. Kroft you have been very temperate in your statements about these negotiations. You have been trying to encourage a sense of good will between the United States and iran, but some of this. Some of the success has been undercut by very harsh statements from both sides. Since the deal, the ayatollah khamanei has endorsed, even praised, the chanting of death to america and death to israel at the friday prayers by demonstrators, and he continues to call the United States the great satan. Do you believe the United States is the great satan . Rouhani the enmity that existed between the United States and iran over the decades, the distance, the disagreements, the lack of trust, will not go away soon. Whats important is which direction we are heading. Are we heading towards amplifying the enmity or decreasing this enmity . I believe we have taken the first steps towards decreasing this enmity. Kroft do you think the United States is the great satan . Rouhani satan, in our religious parlance, is used to refer to that power that tricks others and whose words are not clear words, do not match reality. What i can say is that the u. S. Has made many mistakes in the past regarding iran, and must make up for those mistakes. Kroft im sure you realize that it is difficult for Many Americans to get past the fact that president obama has signed an agreement with a country that says, death to america, death to israel. How do you explain this . What are they to make of it . Are they to take it literally . Is this for domestic, internal iranian political consumption . What are americans to make of it, the language . Rouhani this slogan that is chanted is not a slogan against the American People. Our people respect the American People. The iranian people are not looking for war with any country. But at the same time, the policies of the United States have been against the National Interests of iranian people. Its understandable that people will demonstrate sensitivity to this issue. When the people rose up against the shah, the United States aggressively supported the shah until the last moments. In the eightyear war with iraq, the americans supported saddam. People will not forget these things. We cannot forget the past, but at the same time, our gaze must be towards the future. Kroft death to america is a very simple concept. Three words, not much room left for interpretation. Not very conciliatory. Do you see the day when that language will not be used . You yourself have encouraged both sides to try and lower the temperature. Rouhani if america puts the enmity aside, if it initiates good will, and if it compensates for the past, the future situation between the United States and iran will change. Kroft the United States has just signed an agreement with iran to lift the sanctions. Is that not a sign of goodwill . Rouhani it hasnt been implemented yet. The lifting of the sanctions must be initiated. Kroft full implementation of the agreement is still months away, and requires that the International Atomic Energy Agency certify that iran has lived up to its commitments under the deal. Do you think the level of trust between iran and the United States has improved because of this treaty . Rouhani relative to the past, its improved. But this does not mean that all disagreements are resolved, or all the distrust removed. In one case, on one issue, yes, we have managed to overcome the problem. Kroft there has been speculation and hope inside and outside of iran and in the United States that this nuclear deal could be a catalyst for some broader, if limited, cooperation between the two countries where there are mutual interests. Rouhani many areas exist where, in those areas, its possible that common goals or common interests may exist. But what is important is that, in the nuclear agreement, we see how the two sides behave in action. Enacting this deal in a good way will create a new environment. Kroft Ayatollah Khamenei has said that there will be no further cooperation beyond the nuclear agreement, but there is already some indirect military coordination between u. S. Air strikes and iranianbacked shiite militias both fighting against isis in iraq. Officially, its being done through the iraqi military. There is also the possibility of future cooperation in syria. You have said that you are willing to sit down with any country, friend or enemy, to discuss the situation in syria in order to stop the bloodshed. What does iran see as a possible, workable, acceptable solution to the situation in syria . Rouhani look, in a county where a large segment of the country has been occupied by terrorists, and there is bloodshed inside the country, millions of people have been displaced, how is it possible that we fight the terrorists of this country without supporting and helping the government of that country . How can we fight the terrorists without the government staying . Of course, after we have fought terrorism and a secure environment is created, then it is time to talk about the constitution or the future regime. To talk and discuss, opposition groups and supporters sit at the table, but during a situation of bloodshed and during an occupation of the country, what options exist . Kroft so far, president rouhani has been the biggest political beneficiary of the agreement between iran and the United States. He is popular with the voters right now, but hes also ruffled some feathers and, no doubt, irritated political rivals. This agreement was a big political victory for you, personally. You were elected president based on the idea that you wanted to open up iran to the outside world, that you wanted to get the sanctions lifted, that you wanted to bring prosperity back to the country, so iran can take its place among the great nations of the world and not be isolated. There are still some things in that agenda that are still unfulfilled freedom of speech, more access to the internet, and personal freedoms. Rouhani i think, relative to the two years ive been in office, i have been successful not 100 of course, but successful. Our relations with other countries have improved. There is more freedom at the universities, lively debates and greater freedom of the press, compared to the past. Of course, there are some issues that are not in control of the government. Kroft two of those issues, human rights and personal freedoms, are in the domain of irans conservative judicial system. Two former president ial candidates have been under house arrest for the past four and a half years, and there are at least three americans imprisoned here. As we sit here speak the. Right now, there is a dual american iranian citizen, a journalist for the washington post, jason rezaian, in prison for more than a year on unspecified charges. There has been talk among leaders in the last few weeks that there might be a Prisoner Exchange. Is there anything you can say to clarify the situation . Rouhani we have iranians who are imprisoned in the United States, iranians who are being pursued, and most of them are being pursued for circumventing the sanctions. And you know that from the beginning, we considered the sanctions to be wrong and we encouraged everyone to circumvent them. We consider all of those prisoners to be innocent, and consider it wrong that they are in prison. Kroft would you. Would you support a Prisoner Exchange . Rouhani i dont particularly like the word exchange, but from a humanitarian perspective, if we can take a step, we must do it. The american side must take its own steps. Kroft if the nuclear deal stays on track and the sanctions are lifted, the iranian treasury will soon begin collecting 100 billion in oil revenues that have been frozen in overseas banks. And president rouhani says iran will be open for business. Rouhani as you know, in iran, we are transferring the economy step by step to the private, nongovernmental sector. Our private sector and the American Private sector can improve the environment. Actually, it will strengthen the nuclear agreement. Even tourism if the people of the United States come to iran and see its ancient history and nature of iran, and the people of iran go to the United States to see america, this can shorten the walls of mistrust and improve the situation for the future. And all eyes are on our softest wertwerthers caramel ever. And once you discover how it melts in your mouth. Youll find your soft spot, too. Werthers original soft caramels. My favorite. Bad news. The johnsonville factory burned down brian. Its terrible. Well if you cant serve tasty sausage why are we even a family . I may as well move out. Well, if thats what yo. Youre right. Ill stay. And tomorrow were going to help johnsonville