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KPIX 60 Minutes December 12, 2016

With christmas lights. Each tree was rigged with a motion detector that lit up the tree and a banner when the guerrillas walked by at night. It read, if christmas can come to the jungle, you can come home. What we did was try to make coming back home for christmas an important thing. And it worked . And it worked incredibly well. Tell me about the night you got lost. What do you remember . Its a memory thats been within me for such a long time. Saroo was just five years old when he got lost, and as depicted in the movie, he ended up on a train that took him a thousand miles away. No way to know how to get home. Its a ghost train. No ones on the train. And and the train is hurtling down the tracks its hurtling down the tracks. I was locked in the carriage. I couldnt open it. And youre five years old. And im five years old. Im steve kroft. Im leslie stahl. Im bill whitaker. Im lara logan. Im scott pelley. Those stories, tonight on 60 minutes. 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Netanyahu and his followers on the israeli right are greeting the idea of President Donald Trump with a resounding lchaim. Benjamin netanyahu i know donald trump. I know him very well, and i think his attitude, his support for israel is clear. He feels very warmly about the jewish state, about the jewish people and about jewish people. Theres no question about that. Stahl with trump, do you think that israel will not be as at odds with the United States as you have been under the Obama Administration . Netanyahu yeah, we had differences of opinion with i had differences of opinion with president obama and most well known, of course, is iran. Stahl was it personal between the two of you . Netanyahu no. No, i dont think so. I think that suppose we had the greatest of personal chemistry, okay . So, what . You think i wouldnt stand up against the iran deal if i thought, as i did, that it endangers the existence of israel . Of course i would. Stahl he says it wasnt personal, but there were times when it sure seemed that way. The relationship, often rocky, hit bottom when mr. Netanyahu took the provocative step last year of lobbying against the Iran Nuclear Deal, and by extension, president obama, in a speech before congress. Netanyahu it doesnt block irans path to the bomb, it paves irans path to the bomb. So why would anyone make this deal . Stahl when you campaigned against him and you spoke to the congress, it was read as a lack of respect and something that had never been done before. Netanyahu no, it was not borne of any disrespect, because i have the greatest respect for him. I had then and i have now. Stahl but do you regret that you did that . Netanyahu no, on the contrary. I think that its my responsibility to speak up when something threatens our very future. Stahl hes says hes going to see mr. Trump soon to lobby him to scuttle the deal. The president elect has called the agreement stupid and a disgrace. But trumps choice for defense secretary, general james mattis has advised against pulling out. If it were to be abrogated, wouldnt that put you in a more precarious position than you are now . Because they would obviously then rush to the bomb. Netanyahu i think iran didnt rush to the bomb before there was a deal. Stahl really . Netanyahu no, because they were afraid of retribution. Stahl but if okay, you get rid of the deal. Then what . Netanyahu i think what options we have are much more than you think. Many more. And ill talk about it stahl like what . Netanyahu with president trump. Well, i think quite a few, actually. Stahl because if you, you know, put sanctions back on, the other signatories to the deal wont. Netanyahu there are ways, various ways of undoing it. Stahl you have something in your mind. Netanyahu yeah, i have about five things in my mind. Stahl well, give me one. Netanyahu well, id like to talk to the president before i talk to 60 minutes. Stahl what about the intelligence that the west is getting from onsite inspections . Apparently, most of the Intelligence Community thinks its worth keeping the deal for that intelligence. Netanyahu i think we have the deal is not the critical thing of intelligence. Intelligence is a critical thing. laughs stahl which israel is really good at. Netanyahu which is were very good at. And you know, with a little help stahl so you dont think were stahl gaining that much by these onsite inspections . Netanyahu for intelligence . Stahl yeah. Netanyahu no. Stahl what about the Silver Lining . That because of this deal, you now have all this these better relationships with your neighbors. Netanyahu oh, well, thats true. I would say i will say this. The only good thing i can say about the deal with iran is that it brought the arab states and israel closer together. Stahl its the old proverb the enemy of my enemy is my friend. On a trip to the desert town of beer sheva, he told us theres been a tectonic shift its been reported that israel and the arab world are sharing intelligence. Netanyahu all i can tell you is that israels position in the arab world has changed because they no longer see israel as their enemy, but as their ally, in their indispensable battle against the forces of militant islam, either those led by iran, the shiites, or and those led by daesh, by isis, the militant sunnis. Stahl we hear that you have dramatically improved your relationship with egypt. Is that correct . Netanyahu yes. Stahl jordan . Netanyahu yes. Stahl saudi arabia . Netanyahu no comment. Stahl i have to ask you, because its the most fascinating of all israel and saudi arabia. Are you actually developing an antiiran alliance in the middle east . Netanyahu doesnt have to be developed. Its there anyway. Stahl israel is developing a whole skein of new alliances, in some cases with countries that have been challenging the u. S. Around the world; like russia, which has placed its troops in syria, israels next door neighbor. How would you describe your relationship with russia right now . Netanyahu its amicable. But the minute mr. Putin decided to put his military forces in syria, i went to see him. And i said, look, heres what im doing. Im not intervening in syria. But at the same time, if syria tries to intervene with us, if iran tries to use syria to attack us, well stop it. Stahl youre telling mr. Putin that you will attack . Netanyahu i said, we should avoid this. And he said i agree. So we coordinated between our militaries, because no one wants an inadvertent israelirussian clash. Stahl you have a friendship with mr. Putin, and a friendship with china. You seem to be inching toward an antiamerican bloc. Netanyahu god, no. Let me tell you something stahl well, talk about that, because i think theres an impression of that. Netanyahu thats a false impression. First of all, there is, there is an irreplaceable ally. Its called the United States of america. Stahl yeah, but here you are making friends with our adversaries netanyahu so no. You have relations with russia and you have relations with china. We can have relations, economic relations, trade relations with other countries, as you do. Why not . Stahl he has used economic and trade relations to improve israels standing in the world by selling, and in some cases, giving away, its hightech inventions. Israel boasts of more startups per capita than anywhere in the world, many based in beer sheva, and nations have lined up to buy drones, as india has, and cutting edge agricultural technology, as china has. Theres excitement about a new innovation that extracts Drinking Water out of air. So this is israeli diplomacy through technology . Netnyahu exactly right. Stahl countries that used to vote against you regularly at the u. N. Are now your clients. I mean, african nations netnyahu its a revolution there. We cant keep up. Stahl whats surprising is that hes making progress with all these countries, without making any progress with the palestinians, who have lived under Israeli Occupation in the west bank for half a century. What about the quality of palestinians lives . You know, its 50 years since what people call the occupation. Its 50 years. You still have checkpoints. People have to be cleared. Soldiers everywhere in their lives. Netanyahu actually, ive lifted checkpoints quite a bit, and were trying to create bridges and thoroughfares and so on, so we can have freer movement. Palestinians know they look at aleppo in syria, and they look at yemen, and they look at libya, and they look at other places, and they know that our intention is coexistence. Stahl you told us that israel is less isolated today than it has been in many years in the past. And yet, at the same time, youre losing support in in western europe. Netanyahu isolated . All these countries are coming to israel and its a fantastic change. Stahl but not western europe. Not you, your natural allies, or your older allies yet. Netanyahu well, theyre coming stahl they call you colonials. Netanyahu theyre coming around too. Stahl but they call you occupiers. Netanyahu well, they call us a lot of things, but i think theyre coming around too, i have to tell you. Stahl but criticism has spread, on u. S. Campuses, too. Theres a movement called b. D. S. , to boycott, divest, and sanction israel and its products, because of the palestinian issue, the unresolved palestinian issue. And this is the playbook that they used, you know, against apartheid in south Africa Netanyahu yeah, well, i dont buy it. Its not about this or that issue. Its against the very existence of the state of israel. Stahl you know what they want . I know what they want. They want you to stop expanding and building settlements. Netanyahu yeah, well, we did. We stopped. We stopped in gaza. We tore out the settlements and gave the palestinians gaza. And what happened . Did we get peace . We got 20,000 rockets on our heads and terror tunnels. Stahl still, his critics argue thats not a justification for the steady expansion of the settlements in the west bank. Those settlements are smothering palestinians hope for their own separate state. Netanyahu i think the obsession, the focus on settlements as though this were the issue and this is the obstacle to peace, i disagree with that. Stahl but it is an obstacle. I mean netanyahu no, its not an obstacle. Stahl well, you say that, but they dont say that. Netanyahu yeah, but ill Say Something else. The real reason we havent had peace is because of a persistent refusal of the palestinians to recognize a jewish state in any border. You ask us to recognize you, im willing to do that. I ask you to recognize us. Recognize the jewish state, for gods sake. And if they do, this thing will begin to correct itself very quickly. Stahl its a condition he doesnt put on his new friends. Have any of the arab states said they accept israel as a jewish state . Netanyahu yeah, they say a lot of things in various forms. Stahl and never actually said they accept you. Netanyahu do they say it publicly at this point . Not yet. Stahl he acknowledges that the arab states want to see movement on the palestinian issue. But despite washingtons call for a halt, Settlement Expansion has continued, even after the u. S. Gave israel a 38 billion military aid package. Netanyahu and the Palestinian Leader Mahmoud Abbas recently greeted each other at the funeral of former israeli president shimon peres. But the two have not held open, direct negotiations in over six years, for which they blame each other. What kind of a state is it going to be if you just, you know, dont do anything . Netanyahu im not going to just not do anything. Im going to do something. Stahl well, if you dont negotiate with the palestinians netanyahu well, im willing to negotiate with them at any moment. Stahl and if it doesnt happen . Netanyahu i havent reversed my position. Ive said, look, we will solve this because we want two nation states at peace and with the proper security arrangements. Stahl you would be pushing for a twostate solution if that netanyahu two states for two peoples. And thats where im focused. Yeah, id like to have president trump, when he gets into the white house, help me work on that. Id like to see if the arab states can help me achieve that. Its a new reality. A new possibility. announcer vo when you have type 2 diabetes theres a moment of truth. 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Logan for more than half a century, colombia was one of the most violent and isolated countries on earth, infamous for cartels, cocaine, and kidnapping. The revolutionary armed forces of colombia, or farc, fought the government in the longest running war in the western hemisphere until recently, when colombia achieved what many thought was impossible. The war is effectively over, the country transformed. How do you end a 52year war that left 220,000 dead and millions displaced, against a revolutionary army dedicated to overthrowing the government . Billions in u. S. Aid helped, but the Colombian Military came up with one of the most unusual ideas in modern warfare an advertising campaign. They hired a creative ad executive, jose Miguel Sokoloff, to convince thousands of fighters to give up without firing a shot. How did sokoloff do it . With soccer balls and Christmas Trees. Jose Miguel Sokoloff advertising is a very, very powerful force. In the good you can do, by changing minds of people in certain ways logan thats why its powerful. Sokoloff thats why its powerful. He wanted peace forever. Logan it was the power to change minds that brought colombias deputy minister of defense to jose Miguel Sokoloffs ad agency in 2006. explosion the military had brought the farc to their knees and were looking for a new weapon to end the war. So they asked sokoloff, one of the worlds top ad men, to create a series of campaigns and tv commercials to convince the guerillas to surrender and the colombian people to accept them back. Sokoloff this gives us the chance to apply our skills to something that is fundamentally important to us, to our kids, to our country. Logan in december 2010, they launched Operation Christmas which they filmed for commercials that played on local tv. At great risk, blackhawk helicopters carried two of sokoloffs colleagues, led by Colombian Special forces, into rebel territory. They found nine 75foot trees near guerilla strongholds and decorated them with christmas lights. Each tree was rigged with a motion detector that lit up the tree and a banner when the guerillas walked by at night. It read if christmas can come to the jungle, you can come home

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