They are always secret if the. We will get democratic perspective from minnesotas senator Amy Klobuchar and answer another question, who is going to take my place . On face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs good morning. Well, we begin with the secretary of state john kerry, who is at the state department this morning. Mr. Secretary, last week the iranian Supreme Leader said no nuclear deal unless all sanctions are lifted. There will be no inspection of military sites but according to the chairman of the Armed Services committee, john mccain a long time colleague of yours, he said that the ayatollahs comments were not what you had been talking about. And here is what he said in a radio talk show interview. 0 john kerry must have known what was in it and yet chose to interpret it in another in another way. It is probably in black and white that the ayatollah is probably right. John kerry is delusional. And then last night, the president shot back pretty hard at john mccain. When i hear some like senator mccain recently suggest that our secretary of state john kerry, who served in the United States senate a vietnam veteran who provided Exemplary Service to this nation is somehow less trustworthy in the interpretation of what is in a political agreement than the extreme leader of iran, that is an indication of the degree to which partisanship has crossed all boundaries. Schieffer so there you have it, mr. Secretary. What do you agree with what the president said . Do you go that far . Well, bob, i am going to answer your question but let me just begin by publicly congratulating you on 46 extraordinary years and it is a pleasure to be on with you and it is really an amazing career. With respect to the question you just raised, i think the president has spoken very powerfully to senator mccains comments and belief in the ayatollahs interpretation. I will let the facts speak for themselves. Yesterday the russians, who are not our usual ally, released a statement saying that what we have put out in terms of our information is both reliable and accurate and i will be briefing the congress in depth tomorrow with the house and tuesday with the senate and i will lay out the facts. Everything i have laid out is a fact, and i will stand by them. In the end, it is really the final agreement that will determine it. And i would remind you, we had this same dueling natives discrepancy, spin, whatever you want to call it with respect to the interim agreement bob but in the end the interim agreement came out exactly as we had described and what is important is iran not only signed it but has lived up to it in every respect. Iran has proven that it will join into an agreement and then live by the agreement, and so that is important as we come into the final two and a half months of negotiation. It is also important to note that we have two and a half more months to negotiate so this is not finalized. This is an outline, parameters and most people are very surprised by the depth and breadth and detail of these parameters and went well beyond what they expected and i think people need to hold their fire, let us negotiate without interference and be able to complete the job over the course of the next two and a half months. Schieffer but do you think, mr. Secretary a hearing of senator john mccain i must say i was surprised by his comments. He went so strong here. Can you possibly get this through the congress if a deal is reached if he is talking that way already . Well, again, the president spoke to senator mccains comments and i am not going to say anything further about it. I am focused on the facts. I am focused on getting a good agreement. I think what we have thus far are the makings of a very good agreement and the key is now can we shut off irans four pathways to a bomb . I think we have laid out and, an outline that does that and what is interesting is the scientific community, Expert Community joined i might adobe russia, china, germany france, great britain, their experts all agree with us. So this is not just the United States of america. This is a global mandate issued by the United Nations to be able to negotiate with iran, they are the ones who created the beginning of this and the congress assisted bypassing sanctions helping to bring iran to the table. The whole purpose of the sanctions was to have a negotiation, now we are having that negotiation and i think we have earned the right through that we have achieved in the interim agreement and what we have laid out in this parameter that has been set forth, we have earned the right to be able to try to complete this without interference, and certainly without partisan politics. Schieffer let me shift quickly, the press met with raul castro yesterday, the president and said he would consider your recommendations on whether or not cuba should be removed from the list of nations that sponsor terrorism, what did you meet . What what did you suggest . I will allow the president the latitude which he deserves obviously, to be able to make his decision based on the recommendation we made and i never talk publicly about recommendations that i make to the president particularly when he hasnt made a decision. So he will make his decision in the next days as the interagency process works through what we have evaluated and i am confident we will go from there. Schieffer let me ask you also, Hillary Clinton is going to announce later today that she is going to run for president. The big controversy over the emails, are you confident that she has turned over all of the emails that were relevant to her role as secretary of state . Well, the state department is currently in the process of review of those emails. It will take a matter of months i think about a month has gone by so there are a couple more, but we will release all the emails that are appropriate based on classification, obviously we are looking through them to determine that no classified information is inadvertently released. But those emails will be released at the appropriate moment. And i also have asked the Inspector General of the state department to evaluate all of the methodology of the management of emails here in the department so that we get ahead of the curve and figure out if every procedure that is in place is appropriate and as for myself, i deal with a state. Gov address and all of my emails are being secured by the state department. All right. Well mr. Secretary, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks a lot, bob and again, congratulations. And joining us now Kentucky Republican senator rand paul, who announced last week that he is running for real estate. Senator paul, this controversy now, this seems to totally bog down in partisan politics. Where do you come down on all of this . The funny thing is occasionally i can be partisan as any other politician but on this i wouldnt jump to the conclusion that the ayatollah is telling the truth and my government is lying to us. Now, i do think there is a problem, though, and the problem, the biggest problem we have right now is that every time there is a hint of an agreement the Iranian Foreign minister tweets out in establish that the agreement doesnt mean what our government says it means. So i keep an opined as to who is telling the truth, but the thing is is that the iranians arent helping the situation by tweeting out in english that the agreement doesnt mean any of that and they will go on with their nuclear program, they wont have inspections so it is very, very damaging to the American Public and to getting to the details of what the agreement are if we cant trust the sincerity or the credibility of the iranian government. Schieffer so at this point you have an open mind about this . Yes, i want peace. I want negotiations, i dont want another war but i also want a good agreement. And it has made it very difficult for someone like me who is a republican who does believe in negotiations who does have an open mind, it is making it very difficult for me even to get to the specifics when i am having trouble getting beyond whether or not i can believe that iran is sincere in the negotiations. Schieffer do you want a deal . I want a good deal. I think i want iran will give up their Nuclear Ambitions and i really do want sincerely want a deal and i dont want war. Schieffer lets talk about your campaign. You have been reaching out to black voters to millennials you have said that the 1. 1 Million Immigrants in this country already here should have some legal status and pay taxes. I, if i didnt know better i would think you are a democrat. To you really think you can get the republican nomination making those statements and taking those positions . Well you add that to the fact that i am also one of the most conservative members of the senate in the sense i vote against penned spending, i vote against unbalanced budgets and a proponent of lower taxes so all of those are right within the mainstream of the party but i do have some additional things i call them sometimes the libertarianish kind of issues of believing in privacy believing in criminal justice, that everyone should be treated fairly under the law no matter the color of your skin. We still have a large problem in our country that if you are black, you are not always being treated fairly under the law and i want to fix that. Schieffer i did say 1. 1 million, i think i meant 11 Million Immigrants but you want to find some sort of legal status for them. What i want to do first is secure the border, if we secure the border and we know who is coming and going and only people come, come legally the 11 million that are here i think there could be a work status for them and i think what i have tried to say is, what we want is for Legal Immigration so we have less ilLegal Immigration but i am hoping, open to Immigration Reform and voted against the bill that came forward, though, primary because it limited the number of legal work visas. Do you think already some in the Republican Party who are not as interested in becoming more inclusive than you are . And i say that because after all when the Republican Party became dominant across the south, it was right after the 1965 civil rights law was passed. Right. I like to remember further back 1928 when twothirds of the africanamerican population voted republican. It switched a lot in 32 but you are right it kept dwindling, gin ling and we have not tried very hard, but i have been going, i have been to ferguson, i have been to detroit, i have been to chicago, i have been to milwaukee, i have been to a lot of the nations bigger cities and i have tried to say to the africanamerican population, one, i am going to fix the criminal justice system, two, i believe in your privacy, and we believe in economic opportunity. I am for a billion dollars tax cut for detroit to try to help them bail themselves out. Schieffer but do you think there are some in your party and a larger segment that would be we dont want to be more inclusive. I am not finding resistance. You will have Reince Priebus on here and i worked with the Republican National committee and we opened the office in detroit they were the ones in charge of opening the office and i was there helping them so i think the party when i talk to people, every day, even people who are trying to defeat me in the nomination process, they will come up and say and we do like you are trying to make the party bigger so i am not finding much objection from republicans. Hillary clinton is getting ready to announce, maybe within the hour or so. What are her credentials for being president . We know the positions she has had but also been involved in a couple of controversies. I think precisely what some will say is her strength is actually her weakness. Her tenure as secretary of state, there is one thing that people want as a commander in chief, they want someone who will defend the country and when her 3 00 a. M. Moment came, when she was asked to defend benghazi, not just that night but for nine months leading up to benghazi, they were begging and pleading for more security and i think the fact she didnt provide that security will go to the heart of the matter of whether or not we should have her as commander in chief. Schieffer he is a woman and she is going to make a strong appeal to women. I think the problem will be with that line is, she has taken money from countries that abuse the rights of women and saudi arabia, a woman was raped by seven men, the woman was then publicly whipped and then she was arrested for being in a car with an unmarried man. I think we should be boycotting that activity, not encouraging it and it looks really bad for the case of defending womens rights if you are accepting money, she accepted money from but inside where they stone women to death for a dull tri. Women arent allowed to make act sayings, women arent on the juries women dont vote so it will be hard to say she is for womens right when she is accepting women from stone age sort of regimes that really abuse the rights of women. What do you think your greatest challenge is going to be as a candidate . I think it is portraying myself for who i am and not who people say i am and i think that is true of all politicians your enemies have to, try to characterize you and you voluntary to put forward who you actually are. Schieffer and what is your greatest strength . I think it is that i am honest. I amgen wine, i am unafraid to answer questions. Someone who gets, it sometimes get me in trouble but i try to be straightforward and answer the question and i think so often the people who rise to the top are the best at not answering questions. Schieffer let me ask you about one thing, you said at one appointment we should end all foreign aid, even to israel, i understand you have kind of walked that back a little. Yes. It is sort of interesting. It is funny how people interpret it because i still believe it and always have believed that but what i have said is in the interim since i first said that is there is not much support for walking back any foreign aid in washington so you know what . Lets start with the people who burn our flags certainly there must be a consensus of people who hate us, i dont think israel hates us, i think israel is an important ally and i say you know what . Lets take netanyahus position, he came here in 1996 to a joint session of congress and ultimately israel will be stronger when they provide for their own defense, right now when we give them foreign aid they actually have to buy from our defense contractors. They are developing their own Defense Industry which is good for any nation so i am a supporter of israel and never targeted them but ultimately every nation really is going to have to stand on their own two feet and it should be like anything else we give to somebody it should be temporary and transient. Schieffer well senator i want to thank you. I always admire anyone who is willing to get out and do what you and these other candidates are doing because it is a hard job. Thank you. Schieffer and it is a hard job to get the nomination in either party. So i wish you the very best and thanks for coming. Thank you. Schieffer and we will be back in one minute. Mason back now for a litter democratic perspective, senator Amy Klobuchar democrat of minnesota who has a new book out called the senator next door. It is not out yet but it is coming out in august. Does that mean you are running for president senator . No, bob. I just had the opportunity, i wanted to take it to give people a little faith in our democracy, to tell my story of the granddaughter of an iron ore miner and newspaperman and teacher and ended up in the United States senate after starting my career in my suburban high school raising money for my prom with a life safer lollipop drive so it is that story the it is story of working across the aisle and practicing politics the way i think it should be. Schieffer lets talk a a little bit about the politics of today. Yes. Schieffer my heavens this iranian deal seems totally bogged down now in politics. Also, the pea met with raul castro yesterday. Somebody said he wont even meet with Benjamin Netanyahu but now he is meeting with one of the castros. What about this policy change on cuba . Well, i think first of all he has met with the Prime Minister in the past, but as for the policy change in you barks i support this change, i am leading a bill with a number of republicans, including rand paul senator, to lift this embargo, we know it is going to take a while but this was a historic meeting this weekend we have to go back to when nixon was Vice President to have a meeting like we saw with president obama. I went to cuba a few month ago, i saw the people were ahead of the government, enter, entrepreneurial spirit, 600,000 people owning Small Businesses and there is a port there a newport, and it is going to replace the havana port which is now going to be focused on tourism, a great occupation for retirees, they can cruise to cuba but the muriel port will be a port for goods all over the world for these 11 Million People 90 miles off our store and i want those to be american goods. And that is why i am sponsoring the bill. Schieffer . Schieffer lets talk about where we are on this situation with iran right now. Do you think senator mccain went too far he when he said secretary kerry was delusional . He may have yes, i have never used those words, kerry has been dogged in his work here to try to do something which has been one of our Foreign Policy priorities for a long time and that is preventing iran from developing a nuclear weapon. I personally am a fan of john mccain we Work Together on a lot of things. I know you do. And i will continue to work with him but that aside, i think what we have got here is just the beginnings of a framework. There is some progress made we didnt expect and now it is heading, i think, to the congress. Schieffer