Congressman, thank you so much for coming in this morning. We learned last night that the president has now ordered a review of this program that allows the pentagon to sell and give military combat equipment, surplus equipment, of course, to various Police Forces around the country. Do you think this program ought to be just flat ended . Well, i applaud and appreciate the president s quick action on the 1033 program as you know earlier this week, congressman cleaver and myself met with secretary of defense hagel about the program, because i was so alarmed when i went to ferguson and walked with the demonstrators and saw this heavily armed police force, Tactical Unit point a sniper rifles at my constituents who were there exercising their Constitutional Rights and so that is what alarmed me and i applaud and appreciate the president s Quick Response to our concerns. You, congressman, are going to be speaking at the brown funeral tomorrow. Are you concerned that the funeral might reignite the tensions there . I am not really concerned about the funeral reigniting the tensions. I guess what i am most concerned about, and i made a promise to Michael Browns parents that i would do everything to bring all of the resources of the federal government to this investigation so that it is transparent, so that it is a viable investigation and we bet to the truth. Now, i am more concerned that if we do not get to the truth and get to what actually happened and bring justice to this situation, then there is going to be a problem in the streets. Schieffer what do you think the first thing that needs to be done down there right now . Right now is to improve policecommunity relations. There needs to be a frank discussion about how we change the way the Africanamerican Community is policed. These people were sworn to serve and protect and apparently that is not happening here. And so we have to change that dynamic. I think police should be required to wear a body camera and i think each car, each police car should be equipped with a camera, so that when incidents like this occur in the future, there is no dispute. It is all on tape and then we can sort out the evidence in a clear way. All right. Well, congressman, thank you so much, and all of the nation will be thinking about you at this funeral tomorrow and the brown family, of course. We want to talk about more about all of this, the news both foreign and domestic joined by our panel this morning, cbs corresponcorrespondent margaretn is back along with david rohde of router and Washington Bureau chief susan page and i also want to say we hoped to have Washington Post reporter my niamalika any with us this morning but just a few minutes ago her office told her to come back to the newspaper to supervise their earthquake coverage, so i guess we are fall the News Business and we all understand this. Susan, how far has ferguson setback Race Relations in this country . Or has it . You know i think what it has done is reminded americans about some of the racial problems that persist and boy it spotlights once again the chasm between the whites and blacks tend to see issues like this, you know, the whites thought, twothirds thought the black went too par in ferguson so maybe if we think we have an African American president we have an africanamerican attorne attorny general, a lot of us think we have made Real Progress in race relation has this is a reminder of how far we still have to go. Well it brings back to those of us a of a certain age that would be me, of course, what we saw in the oj trial, the oj Simpson Trial where the perception just split right down the middle how it was viewed by one community and how it was viewed by another. Lets talk about this situation in isis and all of that. Park rhett, you were talking about there is there is planning at least underway at the pentagon about striking back, maybe even into syria, i think it is going to be very, very difficult to get the congress to agree on any kind of plan at this point, when you stop to think about it when did the president extend up this half Million Dollars request, not half million, but 500 million. Train and equip program for the Syrian Rebels, that was just a few months ago. Yes, it just sat there, nobody seemed to think well we will get around to it when we get around to it. Right. And that wouldnt be funded until 2015, so there is not necessarily a Quick Reaction to the isis threat on that level, at least there is a smaller Covert Program to train some rebels, but building up an army to fight isis doesnt happen overnight. Certainly some programs could be launched, the one of the other challenges here beyond congress is getting an arab country in the region to agree to host such a train and equip program, because so many fear then becoming a target if they take in these fighters to, fighters to make them actually be a standing force. Has anybody said oh let us do that. The jordanians are reluctant. There is some training they allow the u. S. To conduct for special forces for iraqis and others but there is real reluctance to advertise that, because then it is seen as you are in the game. But bigger picture, it needs to be articulated before the president goes to congress or speaks to the public here and it is not clear that there is one that the president is comfortable taking, at least not a position yet publicly that would marry him to military action. Schieffer david a allen talked to you about something you are uniquely qualified to discuss and that is this idea of these captives, these enormous ransoms these people are asking, you know a Little Something about that because you were taken captive by the taliban and held for how long . What, seven months . Seven months, yes. In afghanistan, later moved over to pakistan. Is it time for the United States to review the strategy we have . We flatly say we dont pay ransom to terrorists and i think reasons for that are understandable, but other countries are, and that is what is complicating this. Yes. I think it is a time, it is the time for the International Community to talk about in lack of a strategy. I agree with the american approach which is to the, to be fair to the other countries the u. S. Government doesnt pay ransoms but if a family or organization can pay a ransom the u. S. Will turn a blind eye to that. The problem is that the european countries, france, we saw this in the foley case he was held with french hostages, spanish hostages, danish hostages, they were all ransomed, jim foley is dead and when these governments pay ransoms in the millions of dollars no family can compete with that, the foley family couldnt compete with that and it is not working, there is one estimate that al qaeda affiliates have got 10,125,000,000 in ransom primarily from european governments just in the last five years. What do you think the impact of the foley killing is going to be, susan . My sense is that it was a macabre kind of way a wakeup call, certainly we saw the statements coming out of the pentagon this week, they took a much sharper edge as it were. Is that reflecting what is going on at the pentagon or i mean at the white house or do you think that the state department and the pentagon pay be ahead of the white house on this . You know, i think this could be a real turning point. You had mike morales saying this is the most complex terrorism problem he ever encountered what kind of statement is that from someone who is a career cia intelligence operative . That is a terrifying statement from your previous guest and i think it is really, the horrific, the horrific scene there i think is has really touched a lot of great rates for great rides. Americans the question is, what has been the impact on president geico motorcycle, see how much you could save. Obama . Because we have seen in the past president obama has at times talked pretty tough but he today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes has been kind of allergic to military action when it comes are learning about longacting levemir®, right down to it. Does this change his calculus of an injectable insulin that can give you what to do . That i think is the blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. Question to watch. President goss on vacation and levemir® helps lower your a1c. 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A situation like that right now, thats healthing. Because this threat and i agree with these assessments. This is a group of people unlike anything we have really dealt with, even on the terrorist front up until now. Well, i think one of the problems with the statements, you know, the American Public is war wary they may very well be but the National Security community can never afford to be and many policy makers i mean i remember sitting in briefings back in october of 2013 of the state department where they were warning about the high number of suicide bombings that were spiking in iraq, about the lack of a border between iraq and syria, and certainly the Intelligence Community has been warning about this for some time. So within the National Security establishment has said they have been worried, and there hasnt been a follow through on strategy in a more robust way i think there are legitimate questions to be asked there about why it would seem there is a degree of ketchup being played. I think i want to come back to one of the things that david was talking about with the prisoner question there is a lot of frustration among some of these families, these hostages that not enough is done and i think this question of what happened with the decision to swap Sergeant Bergdahl for some prisoners in that were held at Guantanamo Bay also also brought to to the forefront what precedent if any has been set there and perhaps should if not money be prisoner squats or things considered. I am not saying it is legitimate but i am saying the question is now being raised. Lets take a break and come back and talk about this and some of the other news of the week when we come back. And back now to talk about the news of the week, david, we talk about the search for isis and trying to find these bases, there is another equally intense search going on, margaret touched on it, and that is the search for arab allies to help us in this deal. Yes. And i think that is at that. A key issue and talk about this also can the president sort of move American Public opinion to get citizens to support a limited effort and get the arab state to back us, i think americans are skeptical we dont have allies in this region. There is good news the kurds have been fighting well, they retook that dam near mosul. I think there are allies and i think we need to have a longterm strategy to arm and train local forces, most people dont like the islamic state, most muslims are horrified and disgusted by the killing of jim foley, the president needs to lead on that, he gave a much stronger statement then went golfing and that was the first clear vision i heard about him about the threat we face and he heeds to now respond and describe a new strategy that is not bootsma on the ground george bush style but not, you know, just drones, you know, barack obama first term style. You saw today isis is out there taking credit and you have seen some syrian activists talking about the fact they have taken and air base in syria that was controlled by the Syrian Regime. With where you saw the assad regime sort of be complicit in the rise of isis according to some diplomats now you are seeing out right fighting between the two and this idea circulating out there may be the u. S. Should partner with someone they call a war criminal to take on isis. The reason that question is even being raised is because of what david is talking about, not really having a clear ally in the region, in terms of arab countries being willing to fight alongside the u. S. On this one but also because while u. S. Air strikes are backed up by movements on the ground by kurds and iraqi army in iraq, in syria, there is no, sirrian moderate syrian moderate opposition that backs up army, what is air strikes and what is that strategy going to be if you get a coalition to hit through some coordinated action. Well it wasnt so long ago when there was a debate in the Administration Whether we should give some sort of support to those to the good Syrian Rebels that are fighting assad. We famous lino now secretary clinton wanted to do that, the president vetoed it. And that was about a year ago, wasnt it . Right. Well almost exactly a year ago the u. S. Was having a conversation about strikes against the Syrian Regime and those were called off and almost exactly a year later we are talking about hitting what the u. S. Sees as a new enemy, isis here. Isis has been fighting the moderate rebels that we have been saying we have been supporting. They have been at war with each other. And so in the absence of alternatives you are left with these two very dirty partners here, right . You go with isis you go with the assad regime. It is not clear what the u. S. Can do if they can quickly train moderates to step up and fill that gap or whether they even want to. Schieffer susan lets talk a little bit about paul ryan coming out with this book where it turns out he was very strongly against shutting down the government. He didnt say much about it at the time when republicans did that, but i suppose he is laying the groundwork to run for president if it works out, but he is taking the first early stems. I think he is far from making that decision. I have a slightly different situation. I went to an interview about his book about ten days ago and i got the impression he is somebody we havent seen in town for a long time and that is a legislator. He is taking over the house ways and Means Committee in the new congress. He wants to do a big tax overhaul and deal with entitlements and i think the impression, he cares as much about instituting the policy as he does about getting the that isnt to say he wouldnt like to be president or run for president but he is just 44 years old now. I really got the impression he might just focus on congress and how long has it been since we have had somebody who actually wants to pass legislation in congress . Schieffer well, and being the chairman of the house ways and Means Committee which is where all tax bills originate in the congress, is no small chairmanship. That is probably the most powerful post i would say on capitol hill once you get past the leadership, the speaker and so forth. We used to call it the powerhouse ways and Means Committee and we stopped calling it that because so little gets done but we saw murray, the democratic chairman make a deal on the budget in just a couple of months ago, so maybe there is some possibility foreseeing something happening on the hill that puts to shame the last couple of years when everything has been schieffer and, you know, the other part, talking about paul ryan and whether or not he is going to run, this little joint appearance he made with mitt romney, the other day, where he said, whe