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Tight security in boston as the city gears up for its marathon today. It wasnt about winning but sending a memg of perseverance. I ran with the city in my heart. Victory is in sight. Clinton and trump dominate new york. We dont have much of a race anymore. Senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. This is the year of the outsider. Im an outsider. Bernie sanders is an outsider. Millions of americans have chosen one of these outsiders. I must say that i am really concerned about the conduct of the voting process in new york state. Rose deadly flooding swamps texas. Were just trying to rescue as many people as we can. There are a lot of kids involved. The first criminal charges connected to the flint water crisis. Two state regulators and a City Employee will be charged. Queen elizabeth is turning 90. She will be celebrating all day and for the next couple of months happy bir the field hello wall rose a unique rally at the barcelona open. Work that is excellent work by that ball boy. Face first right into the wall money, money, money Harriet Harriet tubman man is going to replace Andrew Jackson on the 20 bill. Money, money, money rose donald trump and Hillary Clinton were both big winners in the new york president ial primaries this week. The nominating race now enters the home stretch with primaries tuesday in pennsylvania, maryland, rhode island, delaware, and connecticut. For reaction and analysis, we turn to our panel. Trump, a huge victory in new york. Does that clearly put him on a pathway to 1,237 s . It sure does. Im a great believener momentum. Hes still got a struggle california, which was my home state originally, will sort of be the alamo if he does pretty well there. I think he will do well next week. If he does well there, he will come close to the delegates. Can hillary segue to the general election . Well see her start to make that pivot. She has to win just 27 of the remaining delegates and uncommitted superdelegates. She can lose by huge margins in all the states but theres no indication Bernie Sanders is anything to drop out any time soon, and really why would he . He has the money. He has the enthusiasm. 28,000 prime here in prospect park. He wants to speak in primetime in july. So hell still be in the game. The question is whether he starts pivoting away from attacks or leaning into them. And if hes leaning into them, that laib problem for her. Hey both won in their home states, her adopted home state. Does it tell us about the candidates or the American Election this year . I was really happy as a native new york tore see the return of culinary populism. You have to do hot dogs and coney island. Never eat pizza with a fork. No, no. Although, im thinking about that. I actually did once. But, you know, im tempted to say that the nomination process pretty much ended in both parties, except for the fact this is 2016, and we dont know whats going to happen next. We dont know whats going to happen next week. I think that the real issue now is both candidates have to solve something going forward. For hillary, it is the enthusiasm gap. And for trump, its whether or not hes going to try to be a conventional politician. Lets assume for a second that cruz or kasich, that kasich does well in pennsylvania. Crudz then does well in indian at next week. That changes the big mo, as we were talking about just a minute ago. California, you know, on june 7, its what, 172 delegates. Winner take all by 53 by 53 cds. Cruz has been in there for six months. Cruz has all the conservative leaders. He has worked that state very, very hard. Normally, its a media state but i think in this particular case it will be about grassroots efforts. If the election were next week, cruz would win it, i think, easily. Man what a year, the nomination decided in the bronx and berkeley. Who would have thought, right . Rose president obamas midway through a trip to saudi arabia. Britain and germany, the president s visit visits are meo firm up u. S. Alliances and help set his Foreign Policy legacy. That was also the subject might have conversation with the president at the white house on monday. The hallmark, i hope of my Foreign Policy has been to be very practical in thinking about how do we advance u. S. Interests . How do we make sure the United States is safe and secure . But for importantly from the actions weve taken since ive been president is somebody who is committed to keeping americans safe, gl after anybody who is going after us, whether its isil or al qaeda or bin laden or anybody else. Rose what do you define as gegged bogged down in the middle east. What is true, number one, i think our invasion of iraq was a mistake. Thats well known. That was part of what the the debate back in 2008 was about. What i believe is that the United States as the worlds singular superpac has an obligation in all areas of the world where theres mayhem and war and conflict for us to try to be a positive force. But that does not mean that we should be deploying troops everywhere where a crisis is taking place. You know, probe the area where ive gotten the most criticism from some in the Foreign Policy establishment here in washington is around syria. Rose and the red line. Situation, and there what you have is people who i think instinctively feel that where something is going wrong, where we have a problem, the solution is for the United States to send its military in and impose order. So the notion that while we were still biz neafghanistan, still trying to keep iraq together, that we would now then potentially involve ourselves in another military excursion in syria. Thats the kind of unwise Decision Making this i think leads us to make big mistakes, and ultimately, also miss out on opportunities elsewhere in the world. Rose some say youre putting too much emphasis on what we dont do and not enough emphasis on the choices we might have to do. Yeah, and ive heard this argument, and, look, charlie, with we sat down together back in 2009, when i first came into office, we were still in the midst of two active wars. And since that time weve been able to wind down active combat in those two theaters. Those countries are by no means in great shape, but they are not in significantly worse shape than had we left 20 or 30 or 40,000 troops there. And diplomatically, weve been able to make sure iran doesnt have nuclear weapons. Weve been able to at least begin the process of political kitchens in syria and a cessation of hostilities. We are, in the meantime, taking out terrorists constantly. See the not as if we are passive and standing by. Al qaedas core has been dismantled. Bin laden is dead. Isil is losing territory. And so ive shown no hesitance to use our military where necessary to protect american lives, american interests. Rose but let me focus on the red line decision that you made. Sure. Rose many look at that and say because you did not and you went over the opposition of some of your advisers, which is what a president is expected to do. Right. Rose make the hard choices, that what we have today in part because of that decision we have a devastated state. Weve had close to 500,000 people die and weve had refugees of up to four million people. Right and so those so let me respond. First of all, the state was devastated at the same time we were thinkin thinking about makt decision. Rose but much worse today. Hold ocharlie. At that point you already had a couple of hundred thousand dead. The state had already been shattered. And the question, very narrowly, even among those who criticized me was do we take a oneoff, a pinpoint strike to send a message to assad so that he would no longer use chemical weapons because the red line i had set was if you use chemical weapons we are going to make a different calculation in terms of how we view the conflict there. Now, in fact, as a consequence of the steps i took and the tiploamacy that we engaged in, assad removed the vast majority of those chemical weapons from syria. There was never a claim that had i taken military action because of those chemical weapons that we would have resolved the civil war in syria. The notion that by sending a few missile strikes into syria, that we would have resolved the syrian conflict is simply not borne out by any of the subsequent facts. Rose beyond that, as you know, theres this question of red line, and if you announce a red line and somebody crosses the red line that it raises questions about your will, your dependability, and your credibility. Except for the fact that we ended up removing those chemical weapons, essentially, syria david. They gave in. With the help of the russians, they, for the first time acknowledged that they had chemical weapons, signed up for the International Treaty saying that they would not have chemical weapons and systematically removed them. Now, if the notion is that i have been hesitant to use military force and the people doubt my willingness to do so, i think, as ive said before, they should ask bin laden. Rose do you ever ask yourself, if we had done more, we would not be looking at the catastrophe were looking at now . Look, charlie, every single day i make decisions. The and, you know, you are working with probabilities. So in libya, we did take out a dictator who was threatening his own people. As ive said before, i actually believe that of the right decision. I think had we not gone in, we would have seen another syria in libya, but libya is still a big problem. And a mess. And i think we did not do as good of a job as we should have. And i didnt do as good of a job as i should have in thinking through the aftermath and how much work was going to be required in putting the pieces of that country back together again. And thats a much simpler proposition than in syria. Rose whats the test for you when you want to use American Force . We are always prepared to use force. Unilaterally if need be, to protect the american people. So youre asking a narrow question is where should we be willing to intervene militarily because we have a duty to protect other people, because things are getting chaotic and we need to impose order and so forth . And my approach is not to say weve got some perfect test that we can apply. Each situation is different. The costs and the benefits of our intervention are going to be different each and every time. But i think what we can say is that wherever possible, we should first and foremost try to get other countries to work with us to see if we can solve the problem. Where the costs of our military intervention are manageable and the benefits are potentially high, then i think it makes sense. Rose going to iraq, my question is what do you think can be accomplished in the battle against isis in iraq before your term of office ends . Im thinking of the recapture of mosul specifically. Well, weve made significant progress. This is a long, hard fight as i just said last week. But what weve seen is theyve lost territory, and as we get closer to mosul in iraq and raqqa in syria theyre two primary strongholds what ive said to our secretary of defense and our generals is lets continue to resource what works. And as we see the iraqis willing to fight and gaining ground, lets make sure that were providing them more support. Were not doing the fighting ourselves, but when we provide training, when we provide special forces who are backing them up, when we are gaining intelligence working with the coalitions we have, what weve seen is we can continually tighten the noose. My expectation is by the end of the year we will have created the conditions whereby mosul will eventually fall. Rose creating the conditions. But i dont know yet. We dont know whats going to be the actual situation on the ground as to whether something will have been launched. And i think its important and this is based on constant consultations with the Iraqi Government and Iraqi Military with our own military wour Coalition Members what weve tried to do is lets make sure that were being very methodical. Lets make sure across the board, if we say were going to get something done, that weve done it in the right way. Rose i will continue my conversation with president obama in germany on monday. You will be able to see it on my nightly program on tuesday night. Rose who are the worlds most influential people . Time magazine is out with its choices. It is called the 13th annual power list of the 100 titans, pioneers, artists, leaders, and icons who shape our world. Joining me now is radia jones, the Deputy Editor of time and she is the one, i hear, who is in charge of this. Welcome. Thank you for having me, charlie. Rose how is this list different, say, from last year, the year before, the year before, is composition, recognition of certain kinds of things making this special . Well, the list is about influence, and it doesnt really bow to any particular metric. When we start thinking about the list four or five amongst out, and we just try to think very broadly about who is sort of owning their field . Who is rising . Who is having influence, not just, perhaps, in a single lane, but sort of across boundaries. And also who are the people you know, were a news exphagz we cover every aspect of culture, science, technology. Exactly. So who are the people in each of those areas who really are starting conversations and making us think . And, you know, theres a way to do a list like this where you sort of have the same 90 people year after year. But we really want to keep it fresh because we want it to feel like a snapshot of the moment. And so we take a lot of pride in making sure that every year the list has a new kind of energy. Rose but at the same time, there are people who perennially appear here, like the president of the United States. The president of the United States. Rose like the president of russia. Yes. Rose like Angela Merkel. Yes, whats interesting about those three examples, yes, theyve been on the list many times, but the aspects of their leadership that we choose to highlight every year change. And thats what keeps it fresh for us, and i hope what keeps it fresh for the readers. Rose i have some favorites. Excellent, lets hear them. Rose stephan curry. He has changed basketball, has had a phenomenal year and made the threepoint shot. Let me tell you, i resisted it for a while because i grew up in the era of michael jordan. Rose oh, prejudice, prejudice, prejudice. But he is phenomenal in a totally different way. People really look up to him. Hes a role model. We had Misty Copeland write the piece about him, another legend. Rose how do you choose people to write . For instance, when i was on the list, you chose michael bloomberg. Here is linawrdo dicaprio and he gets john kerry. Why john kerry . We wanted to highlight a very particular aspect of Leonardo Dicaprios influence. We all saw him win an oscar this year. It was a longawaited moment for an actor. He is also a very powerful environmentalist. And he and john kerry have worked together on a number of things. And john kerrys piece brings out that side of him, which we hope will be instructive to readers. Rose heres whats interesting, too. Here is Mark Zuckerberg and his wife. Mark has been on before. He has. Rose and theyre here together, and bill and linda gates, another couple of equal weight and challenge and shared ambition. This was a fun one to think about. Of course, this was the year Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan wrote an open letter to their new daughter talking about their plans to fund an initiative that would funnel money toward innovation and moonshots and so we wanted them to be on the list together because we felt like they represented a new generation of philanthropy and activism. Rose pope francis is the list. He is on the list. Rose and why is he on the list . Give me a good reason why he shouldnt be. Rose the Comedian Louis c. K. Has worked in cable, television, and film. Now he has added the internet to his resume. Horace and petes is louis c. K. s new series and stars alan alda and edie falco. Here is whats different about it. It is only available for a price, a small price, on his web site. It just grabbed me. I just believed in it. As soon as i started writing it. Ive had a lot of ideas for different kind of shows, but theres this test, does it write . Can you actually get out the scripts . I started writing it this summer, and it just kept coming episode after episode, and i realized im writing something that is worth shooting so i started to get to work producing it. Rose what about the actors . Steve buscemi called me to do a benefit for a firefighter thing and you said, ill do your benefit, but by the way . I happened to be writing it. I wasnt sure where it was going yet. I had him on the show, we were chatting were friend. I said, do you want to do a show . He said, yeah, sure. And i said were brothers. And i saw an article about edie falco saying that shes done with nurse jackie. Rose you said boom. Shes one of my favorites. I wrote her into it. And i was at the emmies and shes sitting