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KQED PBS NewsHour May 4, 2017

The south sudan border is just about a mile down this road here. Some 500 people walk in each day into uganda. The first evidence theyll have a safe night to sleep are these white tents here put up by the united nations. Sreenivasan all that and more on tonights pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by and by the alfred p. Sloan foundation. Supporting science, technology, and improved Economic Performance and Financial Literacy in the 21st century. Carnegie corporation of new york. Supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of International Peace and security. At carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Sreenivasan the white house, and House Republicans, are celebrating tonight. Today, they pushed through a bill to remake the Health Care System, something they failed to do back in march. The vote was 217 to 213. Lisa desjardins begins our coverage. Make no mistake, this is a repeal and replace of obamacare. Make no mistake about it. Make no mistake. Desjardins a dramatic day ended at the white house as President Trump and House Republicans celebrated wrestling out a hardfought first win in the fight over the Affordable Care act. Were going to get this passed through the senate. I feel so confident. As much as weve come up with a really Incredible Health care plan, this has brought Republican Party together. Desjardins just an hour earlier, the American Health care act squeaked through with a single vote to spare, and, as the vote count was read, supporters erupted in cheers. 20 republicans and every democrat voted no. Democrats, whove said support of the bill would cost republicans their seats, responded with taunts of hey, hey goodbye. Hey hey goodbye. Desjardins it was the culmination of days of tension and hours of heated debate. House speaker paul ryan, who just six weeks ago was forced to pull an earlier version of the bill, made an emotional plea. A lot of us have been waiting seven years to cast this vote. Are we going to meet this test. Are we going to be men and women of are word. Are we going to keep the promises that we made. Or are we going to falter. No. Desjardins democrats summoned emotion too, meanwhile, insisting the vote was rushed, shortsighted and will hurt millions of americans. Does trumpcare protect seniors and families. No. Does trumpcare protect seniors and families. No. Is there any caring in trumpcare at all . No. Desjardins just 24 hours earlier, passage was not even a certainty. In the end enough conservatives and a few moderates got on board to put this bill over the top. How did republicans get those votes . Two changes. First, a rescue amendment from new Jersey Republican tom macarthur. It allows states to waive out of essential benefits like hospital care, spending caps and requirements surrounding pre existing conditions. States can only drop those things if they show it would improve the market. That brought some conservative votes, but raised other concerns about people with preexisting conditions. The answer . Another amendment, from michigans fred upton, to add 8 billion to a 115 billion pot of money states can use to help the highestrisk patients. Democrats today called that amount a pittance and said it is a lie. It is a lie. And lets be honest about it this does not cover people with preexisting conditions and to come on a floor and say it does to fool people well you may get away with it in the short term you may get a headline but ill tell you people will find out soon enough. Desjardins republicans supporters countered, charging their opponents were ill informed. I believe probably the reason they wont vote for it is they dont understand it because pre existing conditions are covered. If you have coverage now nothing in our bill no matter what would come from the state or anyone else will lose the preexisting conditions. But i guess its easier to talk your talking points. Desjardins the bill would have sweeping other effects. Repealing obamacare taxes and adding tax credits of a few thousand dollars, based on age and income. But the most dramatic changes may be to medicaid. The bill would cap benefits and phase out the expansion, for estimated cuts of 880 billion over a decade. That is one reason the Congressional Budget Office concluded it would mean 24 million more uninsured americans. As house members debated the measure inside the capitol, protesters against the bill gathered outside. The bill now goes to the senate where it faces an extensive makeover and concerns from members of both parties. N as for House Republicans they left the capitol en masse, with smiles, headed to a oneweek recess. Sreenivasan lisa will be back, as we explore the politics and particulars of the republican bill, after the news summary. In the days other news, the Senate Approved a 1. 1 trillion spending bill, to keep the government running through september. It had already passed the house. The senate vote sends the bill to President Trump. Theres more defense spending, as he wanted, but no funding for the promised border wall. Theres word the Trump Administration is talking with iraq about having u. S. Troops stay longer. Some 7,000 are deployed there now. Reports today say Prime Minister Haider Alabadi wants some or all of them to remain, even after Islamic State forces are defeated. Russia, turkey and iran agreed today to establish four non conflict zones in syria. Representatives of the three nations signed an agreement at peace talks in kazakhstan. Some Syrian Opposition delegates protested and walked out. Russia, turkey and iran worked out a syrian ceasefire deal in december, but it collapsed after a few weeks. President trump signed an executive order today to let churches be more politically active. It eases enforcement of a ban on taxexempt religious groups participating in politics. And, it mandates unspecified regulatory relief for groups with religious objections against covering contraception for employees. In a white house rose garden ceremony, the president said hes reaffirming a commitment to freedom of religion. For too long, the federal government has used the power of the state as a weapon against people of faith. Bullying and even punishing americans for following their religious beliefs. Its been happening. That is why i am signing today an executive order to defend the freedom of religion and speech in america. Sreenivasan immediately after the signing, the American Civil Liberties Union Announced it will challenge the executive order in court. The president is back in new york this evening, for the First Time Since his inauguration. Hundreds of protesters turned out as hemet with the Prime Minister of australia, before speaking at the u. S. S. Intrepid, a decommissioned aircraft carrier. The white house also announced hell travel to saudi arabia, israel and the vatican this month. His first overseas trip as president concludes at a nato summit in belgium. Former president obama has weighed in on the french president ial election. He endorsed centrist Emmanuel Macron, over farright candidate marine le pen, in a video message posted today on macrons twitter account. Ive admired the campaign that Emmanuel Macron has run. He has stood up for liberal values, he put forward a vision for the Important Role that france plays in europe and around the world, and he is committed to a Better Future for the french people. He appeals to peoples hopes and not their fears. Sreenivasan polls suggest macron is well ahead in sundays runoff vote. The governor of puerto rico is vowing no new taxes, and no new austerity measures, as the territory seeks debt relief. Puerto rico filed wednesday to restructure part of the 73 billion it owes. Today, Governor Ricardo Rossello said hell negotiate with creditors. But he insisted i am not going down a road that would force the people of puerto rico to make more sacrifices. And, on wall street, Energy Stocks sank, and canceled out gains elsewhere. The Dow Jones Industrial average lost six points to close at 20,951. The nasdaq rose two points, and the s p 500 added just one point. Still to come on the newshour how the Health Care Bill is likely to fare in the senate. The top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee about the latest in the russia investigation. Making sense of janesville, wisconsins complicated economic recovery, and much more. Sreenivasan lets dive a little deeper into the bill passed by the house, what it would change when it comes to coverage and cost, and the politics moving forward. Our own Lisa Desjardins joins us for that, just back from capitol hill. And julie rovner is with Kaiser Health news. Lisa, lets start with preexisting conditions. That became the phrase that pays all week long and even today. Who is going to get left out of this . It is a very serious concern, according to ciezy family foundation, some 52 million americans have preexisting conditions, adults, could have their insurance affected. The way this works, hari each state would decide if the they t a waiver so the states could opt out. Now, republicans say this should not affect those with preexisting conditions because if their premiums get too high, theyve created whats called highrisk pools. They say that will help them, but i spent a lot of time talking to republicans about this today. They do not guarantee that your premium wont go up if you have preexisting conditions. Insurers can raise those premiums. The question is will states opt in to do this and also important, hari, its easy to get these waivers under this particular version because if the state applies for it, if the government does nothing, it happens. The government has to actually block the waiver. Sreenivasan so a lot of this seems to depend on a statebystate base who decides to continue. This is one of the things republicans said. They dont like that health care is being basically governed from the federal government. They want to turn it back to the states. We should say states already have a lot of power in the insurance market. They do they still regulate individual insurance. They still regulate insurance for small businesses, businesses that operate in multiple states are regulated by the federal government. But that wasnt the Affordable Care act. Thats been the case. Sreenivasan one of the things that the republicans have said is, one of our methods to deal with this is creating these highrisk pools. Lets talk about that. How would they work . 35 states used to have these highrisk pools, and these are people who have very expensive conditions, ongoing normally, an ongoing problem. They basically get put in a different pool, thats why theyre called highrisk pools. The reason is the healthier people in the regular pool would have lower premiums because theyre not paying for those expensive people. Sreenivasan does that mean the sicker people have higher remiums. Thats correct. The sicker people could get insurance but they had higher premiums. Sometimes they had preexisting condition exclusions so you wouldnt get coverage for the very thing that got you into the highrisk pool, for sometimes up to a year. And some were underfunded. There was a pool in florida that was closed for decades. And thats where this money comes in that republicans added at the last minute, another 8 billion that could go to the highrisk pools to help stabilize those premiums, but we have no idea if thats enough money. There is not a c. B. O. Score on this bill. There is not a c. B. O. Score on how much is needed in that kind of national, potential highrisk pool. Its a huge question mark. There are many who said 8 billion will not cut. Sreenivasan we have tried to supplement these highrisk pools and it has come up short. There was a federal pool and it closed a year early because it ran out of money. Sreenivasan lets talk about the essential Health Benefits. Thats something that has been discussed, on something that could really strain the average household or the average family. To accept the the table, what are some of the essentials. It seems the unseen skeleton of American Health care. Were talking about hospital care, being able to do to go to the hospital. The e. R. , maternity care, preventive care, that could be anything from Cancer Screening to, right now, contraception, depending on how the Health Agency goes forward. Also, prescription drugs. 10 basics that the congress under obamacare said must number every plan. Now the way republicans in the house want it, they want states to be able to waive out of those essential benefits. Sreenivasan now year creating a market on a statebystate basis saying i will have an essential Health Package different from my neighboring state. This is one of the things donald trump said today, were going to drive down premiums. Were going to drive down these costs. Is it likely that states will start to offer up these different packages for employers from other places . Well, actually, already, states get to pick which you know, which kind theyre called a benchmark plan. It does have to have those benefits, but states can decide on a statebystate basis what the plan should be modeled as. What this would say is it would give insurers the ability to jettison those benefits. They could say were not going to cover maternity care. Were not going to cover Mental Health care. Were only going to cover generic prescription drugs and not brand name prescription drugs. Probably, premiums would go down, but people who needed that coverage wouldnt have it anymore. People would be making that choice, republicans argue. They say you could choose to have a barebones plan. Sreenivasan instead of a cadillac plan. Yes. Sreenivasan 880 billion in cuts to medicaid. How does this go forward . This really has been hidden in want debate. This is a tremendous change to medicaid. For the First Time Since medicaid was created, there would no longer be federal funding. Were not just talking about the medication expansion in the Affordable Care act. That would be phased out. Were talking about the basic Medicaid Program that pays for maternity care, child birth for almost half the children borne in the United States. And the majority of nursing home care. So thats where the Congressional Budget Office suggested that much of the declining coverage would come from states losing money for medicaid. Sreenivasan when you look at the politics of, this there are senators and governors not in favor of this. Thats right. And i think were going to pay a lot more attention to the senate now. They have a real problem in the senate. In fact, you talk too some smatters who have been around for a long time, including the chairman of the health committee, the help committee, alexander. His office sent me an email tonight. He said the senate is going to write its own bill. Theyre going to start and go in their own direction. Medicaid is a big problem. And states with some of the highest medicaid raits raets are also states with republican senators. They are taking that very seriously. Also, hari, today, nine of those republicans who voted no on this bill had so there are real issues for 2018 here. Sreenivasan one of the things were hearing is 4 could affect people who are not in need of the Affordable Care act or a government plan, people who have private insurance through their employers, which is the bulk of the population. Thats right. This is a very good example of how complicated this all is. These things are tied to each other. And when you pull one piece of it out, you could inadvertently touch another piece. The wall street journal this morning reported that people who have employers are required not to offer coverage that have lifetime limits that says sai once you have 1 million in claims you cant do it anymore, you cant cover it anymore. Its tied to those essential Health Benefits. If the essential Health Benefit goes away, once again, employer coverage could have lifetime limits. Sreenivasan all right, julie rovner, Lisa Desjardins, thank you both. To help you keep track of the many details we have a guide to the g. O. P. Health care bill on our website. Pbs. Org newshour. Sreenivasan there are at least three major investigations underway into what role russia played in the president ial election, and whether the Trump Campaign colluded in that process. Today, two of the nations Top National Security officials held a closedhearing with congressional investigators. William brangham has more. Brangham the Economic Performance<\/a> and Financial Literacy<\/a> in the 21st century. Carnegie corporation of new york. Supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of International Peace<\/a> and security. At carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Sreenivasan the white house, and House Republicans<\/a>, are celebrating tonight. Today, they pushed through a bill to remake the Health Care System<\/a>, something they failed to do back in march. The vote was 217 to 213. Lisa desjardins begins our coverage. Make no mistake, this is a repeal and replace of obamacare. Make no mistake about it. Make no mistake. Desjardins a dramatic day ended at the white house as President Trump<\/a> and House Republicans<\/a> celebrated wrestling out a hardfought first win in the fight over the Affordable Care<\/a> act. Were going to get this passed through the senate. I feel so confident. As much as weve come up with a really Incredible Health<\/a> care plan, this has brought Republican Party<\/a> together. Desjardins just an hour earlier, the American Health<\/a> care act squeaked through with a single vote to spare, and, as the vote count was read, supporters erupted in cheers. 20 republicans and every democrat voted no. Democrats, whove said support of the bill would cost republicans their seats, responded with taunts of hey, hey goodbye. Hey hey goodbye. Desjardins it was the culmination of days of tension and hours of heated debate. House speaker paul ryan, who just six weeks ago was forced to pull an earlier version of the bill, made an emotional plea. A lot of us have been waiting seven years to cast this vote. Are we going to meet this test. Are we going to be men and women of are word. Are we going to keep the promises that we made. Or are we going to falter. No. Desjardins democrats summoned emotion too, meanwhile, insisting the vote was rushed, shortsighted and will hurt millions of americans. Does trumpcare protect seniors and families. No. Does trumpcare protect seniors and families. No. Is there any caring in trumpcare at all . No. Desjardins just 24 hours earlier, passage was not even a certainty. In the end enough conservatives and a few moderates got on board to put this bill over the top. How did republicans get those votes . Two changes. First, a rescue amendment from new Jersey Republican<\/a> tom macarthur. It allows states to waive out of essential benefits like hospital care, spending caps and requirements surrounding pre existing conditions. States can only drop those things if they show it would improve the market. That brought some conservative votes, but raised other concerns about people with preexisting conditions. The answer . Another amendment, from michigans fred upton, to add 8 billion to a 115 billion pot of money states can use to help the highestrisk patients. Democrats today called that amount a pittance and said it is a lie. It is a lie. And lets be honest about it this does not cover people with preexisting conditions and to come on a floor and say it does to fool people well you may get away with it in the short term you may get a headline but ill tell you people will find out soon enough. Desjardins republicans supporters countered, charging their opponents were ill informed. I believe probably the reason they wont vote for it is they dont understand it because pre existing conditions are covered. If you have coverage now nothing in our bill no matter what would come from the state or anyone else will lose the preexisting conditions. But i guess its easier to talk your talking points. Desjardins the bill would have sweeping other effects. Repealing obamacare taxes and adding tax credits of a few thousand dollars, based on age and income. But the most dramatic changes may be to medicaid. The bill would cap benefits and phase out the expansion, for estimated cuts of 880 billion over a decade. That is one reason the Congressional Budget Office<\/a> concluded it would mean 24 million more uninsured americans. As house members debated the measure inside the capitol, protesters against the bill gathered outside. The bill now goes to the senate where it faces an extensive makeover and concerns from members of both parties. N as for House Republicans<\/a> they left the capitol en masse, with smiles, headed to a oneweek recess. Sreenivasan lisa will be back, as we explore the politics and particulars of the republican bill, after the news summary. In the days other news, the Senate Approved<\/a> a 1. 1 trillion spending bill, to keep the government running through september. It had already passed the house. The senate vote sends the bill to President Trump<\/a>. Theres more defense spending, as he wanted, but no funding for the promised border wall. Theres word the Trump Administration<\/a> is talking with iraq about having u. S. Troops stay longer. Some 7,000 are deployed there now. Reports today say Prime Minister<\/a> Haider Alabadi<\/a> wants some or all of them to remain, even after Islamic State<\/a> forces are defeated. Russia, turkey and iran agreed today to establish four non conflict zones in syria. Representatives of the three nations signed an agreement at peace talks in kazakhstan. Some Syrian Opposition<\/a> delegates protested and walked out. Russia, turkey and iran worked out a syrian ceasefire deal in december, but it collapsed after a few weeks. President trump signed an executive order today to let churches be more politically active. It eases enforcement of a ban on taxexempt religious groups participating in politics. And, it mandates unspecified regulatory relief for groups with religious objections against covering contraception for employees. In a white house rose garden ceremony, the president said hes reaffirming a commitment to freedom of religion. For too long, the federal government has used the power of the state as a weapon against people of faith. Bullying and even punishing americans for following their religious beliefs. Its been happening. That is why i am signing today an executive order to defend the freedom of religion and speech in america. Sreenivasan immediately after the signing, the American Civil Liberties<\/a> Union Announced<\/a> it will challenge the executive order in court. The president is back in new york this evening, for the First Time Since<\/a> his inauguration. Hundreds of protesters turned out as hemet with the Prime Minister<\/a> of australia, before speaking at the u. S. S. Intrepid, a decommissioned aircraft carrier. The white house also announced hell travel to saudi arabia, israel and the vatican this month. His first overseas trip as president concludes at a nato summit in belgium. Former president obama has weighed in on the french president ial election. He endorsed centrist Emmanuel Macron<\/a>, over farright candidate marine le pen, in a video message posted today on macrons twitter account. Ive admired the campaign that Emmanuel Macron<\/a> has run. He has stood up for liberal values, he put forward a vision for the Important Role<\/a> that france plays in europe and around the world, and he is committed to a Better Future<\/a> for the french people. He appeals to peoples hopes and not their fears. Sreenivasan polls suggest macron is well ahead in sundays runoff vote. The governor of puerto rico is vowing no new taxes, and no new austerity measures, as the territory seeks debt relief. Puerto rico filed wednesday to restructure part of the 73 billion it owes. Today, Governor Ricardo Rossello<\/a> said hell negotiate with creditors. But he insisted i am not going down a road that would force the people of puerto rico to make more sacrifices. And, on wall street, Energy Stocks<\/a> sank, and canceled out gains elsewhere. The Dow Jones Industrial<\/a> average lost six points to close at 20,951. The nasdaq rose two points, and the s p 500 added just one point. Still to come on the newshour how the Health Care Bill<\/a> is likely to fare in the senate. The top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee<\/a> about the latest in the russia investigation. Making sense of janesville, wisconsins complicated economic recovery, and much more. Sreenivasan lets dive a little deeper into the bill passed by the house, what it would change when it comes to coverage and cost, and the politics moving forward. Our own Lisa Desjardins<\/a> joins us for that, just back from capitol hill. And julie rovner is with Kaiser Health<\/a> news. Lisa, lets start with preexisting conditions. That became the phrase that pays all week long and even today. Who is going to get left out of this . It is a very serious concern, according to ciezy family foundation, some 52 million americans have preexisting conditions, adults, could have their insurance affected. The way this works, hari each state would decide if the they t a waiver so the states could opt out. Now, republicans say this should not affect those with preexisting conditions because if their premiums get too high, theyve created whats called highrisk pools. They say that will help them, but i spent a lot of time talking to republicans about this today. They do not guarantee that your premium wont go up if you have preexisting conditions. Insurers can raise those premiums. The question is will states opt in to do this and also important, hari, its easy to get these waivers under this particular version because if the state applies for it, if the government does nothing, it happens. The government has to actually block the waiver. Sreenivasan so a lot of this seems to depend on a statebystate base who decides to continue. This is one of the things republicans said. They dont like that health care is being basically governed from the federal government. They want to turn it back to the states. We should say states already have a lot of power in the insurance market. They do they still regulate individual insurance. They still regulate insurance for small businesses, businesses that operate in multiple states are regulated by the federal government. But that wasnt the Affordable Care<\/a> act. Thats been the case. Sreenivasan one of the things that the republicans have said is, one of our methods to deal with this is creating these highrisk pools. Lets talk about that. How would they work . 35 states used to have these highrisk pools, and these are people who have very expensive conditions, ongoing normally, an ongoing problem. They basically get put in a different pool, thats why theyre called highrisk pools. The reason is the healthier people in the regular pool would have lower premiums because theyre not paying for those expensive people. Sreenivasan does that mean the sicker people have higher remiums. Thats correct. The sicker people could get insurance but they had higher premiums. Sometimes they had preexisting condition exclusions so you wouldnt get coverage for the very thing that got you into the highrisk pool, for sometimes up to a year. And some were underfunded. There was a pool in florida that was closed for decades. And thats where this money comes in that republicans added at the last minute, another 8 billion that could go to the highrisk pools to help stabilize those premiums, but we have no idea if thats enough money. There is not a c. B. O. Score on this bill. There is not a c. B. O. Score on how much is needed in that kind of national, potential highrisk pool. Its a huge question mark. There are many who said 8 billion will not cut. Sreenivasan we have tried to supplement these highrisk pools and it has come up short. There was a federal pool and it closed a year early because it ran out of money. Sreenivasan lets talk about the essential Health Benefit<\/a>s. Thats something that has been discussed, on something that could really strain the average household or the average family. To accept the the table, what are some of the essentials. It seems the unseen skeleton of American Health<\/a> care. Were talking about hospital care, being able to do to go to the hospital. The e. R. , maternity care, preventive care, that could be anything from Cancer Screening<\/a> to, right now, contraception, depending on how the Health Agency<\/a> goes forward. Also, prescription drugs. 10 basics that the congress under obamacare said must number every plan. Now the way republicans in the house want it, they want states to be able to waive out of those essential benefits. Sreenivasan now year creating a market on a statebystate basis saying i will have an essential Health Package<\/a> different from my neighboring state. This is one of the things donald trump said today, were going to drive down premiums. Were going to drive down these costs. Is it likely that states will start to offer up these different packages for employers from other places . Well, actually, already, states get to pick which you know, which kind theyre called a benchmark plan. It does have to have those benefits, but states can decide on a statebystate basis what the plan should be modeled as. What this would say is it would give insurers the ability to jettison those benefits. They could say were not going to cover maternity care. Were not going to cover Mental Health<\/a> care. Were only going to cover generic prescription drugs and not brand name prescription drugs. Probably, premiums would go down, but people who needed that coverage wouldnt have it anymore. People would be making that choice, republicans argue. They say you could choose to have a barebones plan. Sreenivasan instead of a cadillac plan. Yes. Sreenivasan 880 billion in cuts to medicaid. How does this go forward . This really has been hidden in want debate. This is a tremendous change to medicaid. For the First Time Since<\/a> medicaid was created, there would no longer be federal funding. Were not just talking about the medication expansion in the Affordable Care<\/a> act. That would be phased out. Were talking about the basic Medicaid Program<\/a> that pays for maternity care, child birth for almost half the children borne in the United States<\/a>. And the majority of nursing home care. So thats where the Congressional Budget Office<\/a> suggested that much of the declining coverage would come from states losing money for medicaid. Sreenivasan when you look at the politics of, this there are senators and governors not in favor of this. Thats right. And i think were going to pay a lot more attention to the senate now. They have a real problem in the senate. In fact, you talk too some smatters who have been around for a long time, including the chairman of the health committee, the help committee, alexander. His office sent me an email tonight. He said the senate is going to write its own bill. Theyre going to start and go in their own direction. Medicaid is a big problem. And states with some of the highest medicaid raits raets are also states with republican senators. They are taking that very seriously. Also, hari, today, nine of those republicans who voted no on this bill had so there are real issues for 2018 here. Sreenivasan one of the things were hearing is 4 could affect people who are not in need of the Affordable Care<\/a> act or a government plan, people who have private insurance through their employers, which is the bulk of the population. Thats right. This is a very good example of how complicated this all is. These things are tied to each other. And when you pull one piece of it out, you could inadvertently touch another piece. The wall street journal this morning reported that people who have employers are required not to offer coverage that have lifetime limits that says sai once you have 1 million in claims you cant do it anymore, you cant cover it anymore. Its tied to those essential Health Benefit<\/a>s. If the essential Health Benefit<\/a> goes away, once again, employer coverage could have lifetime limits. Sreenivasan all right, julie rovner, Lisa Desjardins<\/a>, thank you both. To help you keep track of the many details we have a guide to the g. O. P. Health care bill on our website. Pbs. Org newshour. Sreenivasan there are at least three major investigations underway into what role russia played in the president ial election, and whether the Trump Campaign<\/a> colluded in that process. Today, two of the nations Top National Security<\/a> officials held a closedhearing with congressional investigators. William brangham has more. Brangham the House Intelligence Committee<\/a> is one of those investigative bodies looking into russias role in the election, and today, the head of the f. B. I. , james comey, and the head of the n. S. A. , mike rogers, briefed that committee on capitol hill. Joining me now is the top democrat on that committee, representative adam schiff from california. Congressman, i can hear in the background, there are some protesters there, i take it protesting the g. O. P. s passage of their health law. Well talk about that in a minute. But before we get to that, id like to talk a little bit this hearing today. You heard from the head of the nsay, the headline of the f. B. I. I know this was a confidential, closed door hearing. You can share a little bit with us about what you heard today . Certainly. Well, i cant go into the contents, i can tell you the three areas of focus for us, and that is who we have this very public assessment by the Intelligence Committee<\/a> community, rather, that the russians intervened. They did so to heartsecretary clinton, to help donald trump. And we are investigating to make sure that the conclusion reached in that report are an accurate reflection of the raw intelligence. We also want to look at the u. S. Government response. Did the f. B. I. , for example, bring the necessary urgency to the task when it discovered the russians were into computers at the Democratic National<\/a> committee and elsewhere . And then finally, and probably most public interest, we continued to investigate the issue of whether there were u. S. Persons, particularly those involved in the Trump Campaign<\/a>, that were somehow colluding or coordinating with this russian hacking into our democracy. Brangham yesterday, f. B. I. Director comey testified before the senate, and he gave a very impassioned testimony, arguing that his investigation both of Hillary Clintons<\/a> email server and of the russia investigation was absolutely fair. And he argues he would do it exactly the same way again. Are you confident, from what you heard yesterday and. What you heard today, that director comey is the right man for this investigation . Well, i have serious questions about the directors testimony yesterday. I disagree strongly with the conclusions and the argument that he was making. I dont think it was at all a choice between speaking or concealing, and in fact of the fact that the director used such a loaded term like conceal, thing demonstrate the weakness, frankly, of that argument. The real choims was whether he would abide by the Justice Department<\/a> policy of not discussing pending matters right before an election. He violatedly that policy, and he treated the clinton investigation and the trump investigation in very different ways. And i dont think his argument one investigation was in the early stage, that he disclosedly the clinton investigation only three months after it had begun, and it was somehow different for the trump investigation holds up after all. In october, the trump investigation, by his own accounting, had gone going on for three month. I dont agree with what he said yesterday. At the same time, in terms of going forward, i have to hope he will do a thorough investigation of these allegations concerning the Trump Campaign<\/a>. We, for our part, are determined to follow the fact wrfers they lead, and were going to have to expect him to do the same. Brangham congressman, a few months ago you said there was more than there was a good bit of evidence that there had been collusion by the Trump Campaign<\/a>. Later you seem to indicate that perhaps that wasnt as clear. Is there anything more you can tell us today about the evidence that does or doesnt exist about collusion between the Trump Campaign<\/a> and the russians . Well, what i have said is that i think the evidence of coordination or collusion is not purely circumstantial. Unfortunately, im notably to go into the particulars of the evidence. But i that you want it fair to characterize, at least initially, of where were starting out in the investigation. I do think that the f. B. I. Was justified in opening an investigation last year. I think thats not something, when it involves a major president ial campaign, that they do willynilly. And i think theyre justified in continuing that investigation. But, unfortunately, i cant go into the particulars. Brangham lets turn about that big ruckus we hear behind you. A huge piece of news today, that the g. O. P. Was successful in passing their piece of health care legislation. I know you voted against it. What was your reaction to what happened today . Well, my predominant reaction is its a sad day, i think, for this institution when we would vote and effectively cut off millions of people from access to health care. And when you have the kind of massive cuts to medicaid that are in this bill, when youre essentially telling states they can do away with protections for people who have preexisting Health Concerns<\/a> youre voting for legislation that you know or should know will mean that millions of lose their access to health care. We ought to be sad about it. I dont think the republicans should be celebrating at the white house about it. And i will say this, too, its not that this is some abstract desire to cut people off from health care. The real motivating force behind my g. O. P. Colleagues and the vote today is they want to take the money out of Health Care System<\/a> and they want to give it out in the form of a tax cut that will benefit predominantly wealthy people. Thats the tragedy of what we did today. And i dont think its going to pass must nert senate. I think that celebration will be short lived and for good reason. Brangham lastly, congressman, the president seemed to indicate today at the white house that obamacare was dead. Double thats true . No, i dont believe that at all. What we have seen throughout the country is states that have wanted to make it successful, lie my own home state of california, have, and millions of more people now are covered by insurance. The marketplaces work reasonably well, not perfect, and we can still improve it. But in other states where they wanted it to faicialg willed it to fail, tried to deter people from enrolling, they have largely succeeded in doing that. The president , for his part, is also determined to try to bring downtown Affordable Care<\/a> act. Thats why they have cut off outreach to young people. They want only older, sicker people to enroll and to raise costs so they can make the case for a repeal. Its a cynical strategy. I think at the end of the day, the republicans wont be able to do this on their own, and shouldnt. And i hope it will get us to a place where we can Work Together<\/a> on a bipartisan basis to improve want existing system and not do away with in favor of cutting millions of people off from health care. Brangham all right, representative adam schiff, thank you very much. Thank you. Sreenivasan stay with us, coming up on the newshour. Refugees fleeing the worlds youngest country now ravaged by civil war. The Summer Movies<\/a> you wont want to miss. And a brief but spectacular take from Television Writer<\/a> and producer norman lear. But first the story of what happened to janesville, wisconsin, the hometown of House Speaker<\/a> paul ryan, after its biggest employer shut down. Economics correspondent paul solman reports. Its part of his Series Making<\/a> sense which airs thursdays on the newshour. Reporter at janesville, wisconsins Parker High School<\/a> theres a room thats unmarked, and usually closed. The parker closet is a Resource Area<\/a> for students that are struggling financially. We offer food, toiletries, clothing, school supplies. Reporter all free. All donated. A larder for the hungry, begun surreptitiously by teacher deri eastman in 2008, when this proud Industrial Town<\/a> of 63,000 was knocked for a loop. General motors idled the Janesville Assembly<\/a> plant, for nearly a century the areas largest employer. This was the oldest operating plant in the United States<\/a> when it shut down. Reporter journalist amy goldstein. It started making tractors and in 1923, it began turning out chevrolet trucks. On wisconsin on wisconsin reporter for decades thereafter, a job at the plant was a ticket to the middle class. Dave vaughn went to the plant straight from high school, retired after 35 years. When i hired in in 1967, there were approximately 7,200 people that worked there. It was like a small city. It was security. It was good benefits. I had a vested pension. Reporter even by the time the last chevy tahoe rolled off the assembly line, there were still 1,200 workers making 28 an hour. All laid off. Along with thousands of others at local g. M. Suppliers. I knew a lot of the people down there. Families, friends, neighbors. Thats a lot of people. In one little city of janesville. Reporter vaughns son and daughterinlaw both lost their jobs at lear, which made seats for g. M. Vehicles. I was shocked. Then i guess i was scared. Whats next . All of a sudden, were both unemployed. Financially what are we going to do . Reporter mike vaughns wife barb felt the same, even though the job had taken quite a toll on her. I was working with bolts about that big around and that long, torquing them into the seat. I had surgery on my shoulder. And then i ended up with a surgery on my wrist. Reporter so, some relief for barb; none at all for mike. At the time i was the labor leader for almost 900 people, and ultimately i had to be a part of giving the news that the plant was closing. Reporter what was that process like . They were angry, they were upset, they were hurt, and they were scared. Reporter it was shortly after this that deri eastman started slipping daytoday essentials to formerly middle class students, now struggling, stressed and often embarrassed. Some of the kids were wow, i cant believe this all is in here and some of them would be very open to taking things, others would be like nope, were okay. Reporter about 250 kids made use of the closet, including two brothers who asked for soap and shampoo after their mothers daycare business went bust. When the plant closed the parents were home. They didnt need a daycare anymore and so carries Day Care Center<\/a> kind of washed up. And i remember realizing this was going to be a huge Ripple Effect<\/a> for janesville. Reporter in all, the region lost some 9,000 jobs. Amy goldsteins book, janesville, an american story, is about what came next. This is a story of what choices people made when there were no good choices left. Because it was impossible to keep your income and stay working here. Some people chose to stay here and make less money, and some of the g. M. ers chose to work farther away and keep up their standard of living. Reporter thus the term g. M. Gypsies workers who accepted a transfer to other gm plants hundreds of miles away. Good morning transferees how many of you all this is the first move youve ever made . There will be difficulties. Im living experience of it. Ive got one failed marriage behind me. Indiana was the closest place you could work, and lordstown, ohio. These families were very split up and to this day some of the families are still split up with workers coming home, depending on how far away they are, once a week, once a month. Reporter but other workers took the path so often pushed in Deindustrializing America<\/a> these last few decades stay in town and go back to school for retraining in janesville, at highlyrespected Blackhawk Technical College<\/a>, tuition paid by the federal government. It was here that the vaughns strained to reinvent themselves. It was obviously it was scary. It was something that was uncharted and unknown. Reporter mike stuck it out and finished an Associates Degree<\/a> in Human Resource<\/a> management. Because id been unemployed, i took the first job that was offered to me. Which was a second shift Human Resource<\/a>s position at seneca foods corporation. Reporter and what was the difference in pay . It was a lot less pay. A lot less pay. Reporter barb, long ashamed that shed dropped out of high school, quickly got her diploma and then a criminal justice Associates Degree<\/a> and after that, her bachelors. I cant even describe how focused she was. I couldnt have anything less than a 4. 0. She couldnt. She was a perfectionist. She had to have straight as. I received an a minus and it just threw me for a loop. She was angry. I thought something really bad mightve happened, and she got an a minus, and i was thinking, thats not bad. Thats pretty good, you know . Reporter the vaughns are success stories. Mike has worked his way back up to the salary he earned at lear. Both have found new work they like locally. But they turn out to be stunning exceptions. Fully twothirds of those who went to Blackhawk Technical College<\/a> never finished. This was a heartbreaking thing that i heard over and over from some of the people who work at the college, that people started a course, but they needed to grab any job they could because they just didnt have the money. Reporter but even more heartbreaking the minority who did get a degree fared worse than those who did not. The people who retrained ended up less likely to have steady work. They had bigger drops in their wages than the people who hadnt gone back to school. So the question is why . You know its possible that those few jobs that were around in the community were absorbed by the people who didnt retrain. Reporter so that if you were retraining, you were stepping out of line. Exactly. Another possibility is that if you were successful at retraining and you managed to shift into a new line of work, its very likely that you were starting at the bottom of the ladder. Reporter but whatever the reasons, job retraining, one of the precious few economic policies pretty much everyone lauds, simply fizzled. Ive seen a lot of people that are potentially still struggling or not where they may have wanted to have been as a result of the reschooling, the training, if theres no Jobs Available<\/a> after retraining, now what do you do . Reporter in the years since the plant left, theres been a big push to attract new businesses to janesville. Even janesville native paul ryan has courted potential employers to the area. Reporter so will the town come back . There are some jobs that have come back. They arent the kind of jobs that used to be here. I mean the Unemployment Rate<\/a> here in early 2009 rocketed up to more than 13 . Its now down to just under 5 . So if you look just at that number, you can say this community has really come back. Reporter rebounded just as america has. Just as america has. But if you look at other things, its a more complicated picture. Manufacturing jobs have not come back and in terms of real wages, factoring inflation into account, this area is running behind where it was in 2008. People are working again, but theyre not working making the kind of money they were before. Reporter which may explain why deri eastman still has almost 200 students using the parker closet. For the pbs newshour, this is economics correspondent paul solman reporting from janesville, wisconsin. Sreenivasan on our making sense page theres an excerpt from janesville an american story about a struggling teenager who discovered the parker closet after her father lost his job at general motors. Thats at pbs. Org makingsense. Sreenivasan this week weve brought you three reports from inside south sudan, a nation ravaged by war, famine, and a place where rape is used as a weapon. Tonight, we turn our focus to neighboring uganda where they offer an open door to refugees. But with hundreds, sometimes thousands each day pouring across the border, ugandas openess is being put to a test. Special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports. Reporter on a recent afternoon, refugees from south sudan sang songs of praise and thanks. They are the newest arrivals from the brutal civil war in their young country. The south sudan border is just about a mile down this road here. Some 500 people walk in each day into uganda. Theres no sign indicating theyve arrived. The first evidence theyll have a safe night to sleep are these white tents here put up by the united nations. Water is provided but no food. That will have to wait for at least another day when they Reach Settlement<\/a> centers to be registered. Some people told us they hadnt eaten for days. These women arrived after a five day walk through the bush, found an open spot on the floor and quickly collapsed in complete exhaustion. Some tell harrowing stories about the violence theyve seen, much of it ethnically based. translated the dinkas are killing us. They are killing the civilians. Reporter they are killing you just because you are not a dinka . translated yes. Reporter nearly 600,000 refugees have entered uganda since july when new fighting from the civil war erupted, and the flow continues unabated. Bidi bidi, the Worlds Largest<\/a> refugee settlement with 300,000 residents, about the size of pittsburgh, was closed to new arrivals in december to prevent overcrowding. Invepi, about 30 miles from the border, was opened two months ago. Already 62,000 people have moved in, a number expected to reach the 110,000 capacity by late may or june. The overwhelming numbers are straining relief efforts. People wait in line for hours, occasionally days on end just to get registered. And tensions are rising between the newcomers and ugandans from nearby communities. We arrived at invepi shortly after a skirmish broke out between refugees and locals. This Young Refugee<\/a> was bloodied and eventually taken away by ambulance. Well take good care of him. Reporter u aye maung is field director the u. N. High commission for refugees at invepi. Is that a concern for you, the tensions between the local communities and the refugees . We have seen some tensions arise between people. The concerns are valid. There are protection issues. We have a large number of children, women and single boys, young girls. They need protection. They need space, safe space so they can be able to go to school, they can able to do their basic rights in the settlement area. Reporter such hostility is relatively new in a country whose official policy has been to integrate refugees it looks like any other african village and thats the point. Uganda has an open door policy toward refugees, and theyre placed in settlements, not camps. An acknowledgement that theyll stay for quite awhile. Each refugee family is given a small plot of land that they can start to cultivate, build a small dwelling on it. And theyre free to seek opportunities anywhere else in the country. As a people who have suffered before, we do not think that we should shut out anybody who is running away for security. Reporter Shaban Bantariza<\/a> is a spokesman for the ugandan government. He says his country was itself once an exporter of refugees when it was wracked for years by war. Uganda will continue to provide what it can, he says, but the anger expressed by some of ugandans is understandable. They feel disadvantaged and they have expressed that. They feel that their inability to get sufficient drugs, their inability to have enough food is because of the influx of refugees. So naturally they feel agitated. But we are trying to work on that. Reporter at the settlements, food is Still Available<\/a> to the newest arrivals. But rations have been cut in half for people who have been here for several weeks. Water must be trucked in at huge expense. The onslaught has been so abrupt, there hasnt been time to survey land and drill wells for clean water. The rationing of food was apparent when we talked with james ken. He and his family of seven walked for three weeks to reach the safety of uganda. They now live in this tent constructed of tarps. Hes grateful for the welcome hes received but says there isnt enough food to go around. You run out sometimes . translated completely. Right now theres nothing on the fire. Reporter theres nothing cooking . translated yes. Reporter so what will the kids eat . translated hopefully the neighbors will help. Reporter apparently the neighbors did help, with this maize flour for the next family meal. The u. N. Estimates it will cost 840 million to deal with the refugee crisis in uganda this year. But El Khidir Daloum<\/a> of the u. N. s World Food Program<\/a> agencies like his are facing a severe shortfall. We are only 40 of what we need. We appreciate all the support we have received from or donors so far. But we appeal to all the donors that they need to increase their pledges to us and to other actors so we address especially the lifesaving needs for the refugees in the settlements. Reporter the government and u. N. Officials say things are approaching a breaking point. The strain is definite, no doubt about that. And thats why we try to engage everybody, in and out of uganda, the international community. Refugees cannot be the responsibility for uganda alone. Reporter its a Global Responsibility<\/a> . Its a Global Responsibility<\/a>. Reporter ultimately, of course, the ugandan government and the refugees say the solution is for conditions to stabilize in south sudan so the refugees can return. Thats certainly the hope of james ken. So you could live here a long time . translated forever. Unless we go back to south sudan, if peace comes back. Reporter do you think peace will come back to south sudan . translated we dont know. Reporter what he does know is a strong sense of deju vu. 32year old ken actually came to uganda as a child, fleeing earlier strife. He returned to south sudan 12 years ago when peace arrived, only to flee again just weeks ago. Now he fears it could take a generation in his family and thousands of others to make the trek back. For the pbs newshour, im fred de sam lazaro at the invepi refugee settlement in northern uganda. Sreenivasan freds reporting is a partnerhsip with the undertold stories project at the university of st. Thomas in minnesota. And you can watch all of jane fregusons stories from inside south sudan on our website at pbs. Org newshour. Sreenivasan its only the beginning of may. But believe it or not, the summer movie season is about to kick into high gear tomorrow with the release of a big sequel. Jeffrey brown takes a look at the Business Model<\/a> thats driving hollywood. Brown its a triedandtrue formula the Hollywood Studios<\/a> bet on each summer bring on a heavy dose of aliens they can be scary, friendly, even funny. Add a group of chargedup superheroes, throw in a few raunchy comedies, plus some kids flicks, and make sure there are plenty of explosions. Whats changing is how the Summer Season<\/a> begins ever earlier. This weekend features the release of one of the bigger sequels of the year guardians of the galaxy, volume 2. The first movie was something of a surprise hit, grossing nearly 800 million worldwide. A mix of special effects, action and comedy and based on a comic book, producers say they are looking to tap into mass appeal again. I think audiences are going to love, first off, many of the things they loved in the first movie, the humor, the action, the scope, the characters. I think the key to keeping these movies fresh is being able to give the audience a new story that nobody expects but that still feels totally organic. A movie thats totally brown the new guardians is expected to make a whole lot of money, far more than the 200 million spent on it. But not all of the blockbusters will. Many compete within days of each other, sometimes even on the same opening weekend. Yet the studios are dependent on the Summer Season<\/a>. It accounts for more than 4. 5 billion in boxoffice sales. This year will bring at least 15 sequels, reboots or spinoffs between may and august, including the muchanticipated wonder woman. Many of the films come from older franchises, including spiderman, planet of the apes, and yet another sequel to the pirates of the caribbean series, which began 13 years ago. This is wheat. What are the odds of finding human vegetation this theres even one more followup to alien, which first came out in 1979. An early start to summer, the film industrys blockbuster strategy, and a few of the movies themselves. We talk about it now with two film critics, ann hornaday of the washington post, and Alonso Duralde<\/a> of the rap. Com. Alongso, guardians of the galaxy, volume 2. I didnt realize it was summer yet, but apparently it is for want studios. Well, you know, i think the studios are all make Summer Movies<\/a> all year round now. Its kind of like being Hallmark Channel<\/a> they make 27 new christmas movies a year so they have to start showing them the weekend before halloween. If all they make are giant, explosionfilled movies for mass audiences, all year has to become summer. Brown so, anne, summer all year round. How much is this blockbuster model running hollywood . Well, the blockbuster model is definitely the dominant Business Model<\/a>. Although, you know, other alternative Business Model<\/a>s have emerged as sort of a counterweight like the oscar arb ward season Business Model<\/a>, but definitely the blockbuster tent model is huge. It certainly started out as a strategy to attract teenagers, especially teenaged boys to the theaters. Now its a way to get foreign audiences i mean the foreign revenues and emerging markets are hugely important. These sorts of movies travel very well because theyre not as necessarily as dependent on subtitling and cultural understandings and sort of cultural translation. And in terms of just the expansion of the year, since everybody was so desperately focused on the summer to kind of capitalize on vacation and people being out of school and repeat business, theyve discovered that they can go where the other ones arent and maybe make a buck. And i think disney has really proven this out with their strategy of bringing out their liveaction adaptations of animated classics like cinderella and just this year beauty and the beast. Theyve kind of taken over that march slot and really done quite well with it. Brown so, alonzo, what do you make of this blockbuster model . You look at 100 million films, 200 million films. They, clearly, cant and dont make it. Theres always flops. How does it work . Well, you know, the idea is that audiences want to see something theyre familiar with. They want intellectual properties theyve seen before, whether its a sequel or remake or adaptation of a saturday morning cartoon. And a lot of those movies do make money. It doesnt always work. We had big flop sequels last summer. The Independence Day<\/a> sequel was a big redinge spiritual. They would much rather spend a lot of money on something they think is familiar than to gamble on something completely unknown. Brown let me ask both of you. Anne, you can start, which movies are you looking forward to, either because you hope they will be good or it tells you something about the movie business itself that youre watching so carefully . Im very curious about wonder woman. I mean, i was one of those many critics last year that were very disappointedisappointed with bs superman and suicide squad. I havent been over the moon about the way Warner Brothers<\/a> has handled the d. C. Franchise and especially the superman franchise so im really looking forward to wonder woman. Im very curious about dunkirk. He has done a huge spectacle of the evacuation of dunkirk. I think putting him together with history and spect chem kellyanne should yield some interesting results. Brown alonso, start with big movies, first, the blockbuster types. What are you looking forward to . In the same way anne and i are both looking forward to wonder woman, having a new director in the chair, 58y jenkins. Sierd man home coming sees that property going back into the Disney Marvel<\/a> family. Hopefully theyll do a better job with it than last few versions of that hero we got. Im looking forward to a couple of films that bremered at south by southwest. Atomic blond coming off of of mad max fury road. And baby driver which god amazing reviews, and people are really talking a lot about that one. So im hoping that will be something that will add a little pep to the summer. Brown for those of us who want something less what can i say, loud or something a little smaller, perhaps . Realistic . Brown what should we look forward to . You know, there are some wonderful smaller movies and thats another kind of counter to the blockbuster strategy is that summer is a great time for counterprogramming. And last year we saw wonderful small movies like love and friendship and captain fantastic and hell or high water. And i feel another hit from sun dance called the big sick, a charming, factbased romantic comedy baseold the true love life of the pakistaniamerican comic. Its just a really affecting, funny, sweet, very sincere, very affecting little movie that i think has potential to really become a sleeper hit this summer. Brown alonso, you want to give us one, a smaller pick . I have high hopes for. The beguiled. Its based on a novel previously turned into a Clint Eastwood<\/a> movie in the 70s. I suspect under coppolas guise its going to become more of a film about women in containment, which has been a favorite theme of hers, and it stars if nicole kid man and kirsten dunst. Brown Alonso Duralde<\/a>, and hork thank you both very much. Thank you. Thank you. Sreenivasan now to another in our brief but spectacular series where we ask people about their passions. Tonight, we hear from Legendary Television<\/a> producer norman lear, whos responsible for some of americas most popular and groundbreaking sitcoms. At 94, lear shows no sign of slowing down. This week, he began hosting a new podcast, all of the above. Mr. Lear, how do people treat you as you get older . Yes, as i get older people who consider me wiser and that too is bull bleep . I was a kid of the depression. My dad, his brothers, everyone, they all went belly up and were broke. The great aunts and grandparents, always had an expression that when somebody was making a buck he was a good provider. A good provider. That was a sound i heard a lot and all i ever wanted to be was a good provider. Id seen Carroll Oconnor<\/a> in a Blake Edwards<\/a> comedy called what did you do in the war daddy . And i never forgot his face. He walked in and read and he didnt finish the page before i knew that was archie bunker. I wrote those lines, he gave it his soul. The thing i love about archie and edith is they were they both talked a lot of bull bleep , they didnt really know what they are talking about, but they had strong points of view, and thats what most of america is about. And i love doing plays because they are plays in front of a live audience. It develops chemistry between the individual players and the audience. How does she communicate with people . You see, robin thinks words are a waste of time, so she speaks with her eyes. Oooh well, open up wide and lets hear the gettysburg address. laughter on the air at one time there was all in the family and maude, the jeffersons, good times, one day at a time, the facts of life, mary hartman mary hartman, fernwood tonight, and shows that werent on very long. People used to ask wow youre under a lot of stress. And the stress i was under was altogether joyful. It ended with you know 240 live people sitting in an audience laughing. Endeavor ended in laughter. Go beat that. It all added time to my life. Hi, im norman lear, and this is my brief but spectacular take on all the things that made me wind up with the life ive led. Sreenivasan you can watch more brief but spectacular videos online at pbs. Org newshour brief. On the newshour online, the sound of the Health Care Bill<\/a> passing the house of representatives tells a fascinating story. You can listen to both parties reactions in that moment on our web site, pbs. Org newshour. And again, to our honor roll of American Service<\/a> personnel killed in iraq and the afghanistan conflict. We add them as their deaths are made official and photographs become available. Here, in silence, are three more. Sreenivasan and thats the newshour for tonight. On friday we report from paris on the eve of frances president ial election. Im hari sreenivasan. Join us online, and again here tomorrow evening with mark shields and michael gerson. For all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and good night. 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