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KQED PBS NewsHour June 22, 2024

To bring home a win. Usa has been waiting for years to revenge the loss that was so heart breaking to them against japan. And so now they have this opportunity. Woodruff those are some of the stories were covering on tonights pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by moving our economy for 160 years. Bnsf, the engine that connects us. Supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the worlds most pressing problems skollfoundation. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Woodruff the heaviest fighting in months raged in the northern syrian city of aleppo today as Government Forces tried to repel a coordinated attack by rebels. More than a dozen Islamic Militant groups including al qaedas affiliate in syria launched the assault on government positions overnight. President bashar alassads troops called in air strikes that killed at least 35 rebel fighters. Elsewhere, Islamic State affiliated fighters in egypt claimed they fired three rockets into southern israel. Israeli officials acknowledged rocket remnants were found, but did not confirm their origins. No injuries were reported. Aetna announced today its buying rival Health Insurer humana for 37 billion. If approved, the deal would make aetna the secondlargest Health Insurance company in the u. S. , behind united health. That would give it more power to negotiate prices under president obamas health care overhaul. It would also mean aetna would own a larger chunk of the rapidlygrowing medicare business. Residents in maryville, tennessee were allowed home today, a day and a half after a Freight Train with toxic chemicals derailed and caught fire. Some 5,000 people had been evacuated. The train burned throughout the day yesterday. It was carrying material used to make plastic, thats dangerous if inhaled. Authorities are examining the trains black box for clues as to what caused the accident. People around britain today honored the victims of the deadly terror attack at a tunisian beach. 30 of the 38 killed by an islamic extremist in last weeks rampage were british. Queen elizabeth and Prime Minister David Cameron both participated in moments of silence in the u. K. , while the British Ambassador to tunisia laid a wreath at the site of the attack. I think we all live under the threat of terrorism now. And i think that the syndrome weve seen it elsewhere not just in tunisia. But of course thats how we are here trying to make sure we have the best security possible and a great commitment from the tunisians to make sure they have that security in place. Woodruff the gunman in the tunisia rampage was ultimately killed by police. The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack. A russian soyuz rocket bound for the International Space station successfully lifted off from kazakhstan today. The unpiloted spacecraft is ferrying food, water, oxygen, and other supplies to the orbiting laboratory. The launch follows three unsuccessful resupply missions, including the spacex rocket that exploded shortly after liftoff sunday. Still to come on the newshour a divided greece prepares to vote this weekend on its economic future, tension over security concerns over this holiday weekend, mark shields and david brooks analyze the weeks news in politics, the american women heading into the finals in the world cup, why a classic song hits a spiritual and emotional chord, a new look at four men who helped shape the nation and the fatherson duo behind a very american tradition. Greece is bracing itself for an uncertain future as voters prepare to go to the polls this sunday to say yes or no to a bailout package with strict conditions. The latest surveys show the country is almost evenly divided. And today, greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras urged voters to say no to what he said amounted to blackmail from the European Union and the International Monetary fund. Special correspondent Malcolm Brabant begins our coverage from athens. Reporter tonights no rally began with clashes at the bottom of constitution square. It was instigated by black clad anarchists who are frequently involved in street battles with the police. Tear gas rounds were fired by the police as they retreated. This was a minor confrontation in comparison to others that have happened in five years of austerity. One old man berated the police as they backed away. The Police Made One arrest. In athens market district, the day began with a struggle to earn a living. Greeks are caught between a rock and a hard place as they try to decide which way to vote in sundays referendum. No. All greece should vote yes. My opinion is no. No, no. No. Yes, yes i vote no, because i want to be proud of myself. Its a difficult vote. And i think that now we give us hope for the future and for our children. Big yes. Yes. Reporter on either side of the divide, constantine alexander, the executive chairman of the balkan economic forum, an International Business development project, and a butcher from the athens meat market. I know that greeks right now have a difficult choice to make. They have a choice between an Austerity Program that will be very hard for them for several years, or actually going bankrupt and facing a situation that we havent seen since the great depression. So the choices are not good but one of them is better than the other. I learned from Nelson Mandela of south africa that if you want to fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go together. Reporter greekamerican george gilson, a journalist who covered greece for years, is a victim of the crisis. His newspaper went under two years ago and hes been unemployed ever since. To make money, he scours junk shops looking for hidden treasures. I would not like with that yes vote to legitimate five years of inhuman, punitive, vindictive policy, that has nothing to do with europe, that has nothing to do with sound economic policy, and has nothing to do with getting greece out of this crisis. Reporter the no or oxi campaigns banners are most prominent, especially at the athens polytechnic, which is a symbol of National Resistance to oppression. But center right lawmaker harry theochari, greeces former chief tax evasion investigator, believes Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras is misleading the country. I believe that this is their plan a, to go against europe and take our Banking System away from the euro system and change currency towards the drachma. But thats going to be very, very painful severance. Its going to be a very huge that main subway station, the crowds were jam packed chanting no. The same troops in the rally they held a gathering in a last ditch attempt to sway voters. There are many greeks worried about the debts of division of america as a result of this referendum. This is a country where the history is turning in on itself and some people are afraid the levels of hatred may reach those that affected those at the start of the civil war 70 years ago. Others are concerned there might possibly be social unrest and weve seen an example of that tonight. Judy. Woodruff thanks, malcolm. Lets look at what sundays vote could trigger with two different views Jacob Kirkegaard is with the Peterson Institute for International Economics and Mark Weisbrot is codirector of the center for economic and policy research. We welcome you both. You just saw again just how divided the greek people are. Jacob kirkegaard, to you first. Whats better for greeks future a yes or no vote. In my opinion theres no doubt they should vote yes. I think we need to make clear this is not a vote about austerity or not. This is about really sending what is now an accelerating National Emergency in greece where you are starting to see Food Shortages youre starting to see medical supplies run low. And the Banking System is teetering on the brink of slaps and which has now been closed for a week. If these no yes vote, then the Banking System will in my opinion slide into a complete collapse. We will face significant deposit of bailing and other things. This is really about saving the Greek Economy and therefore the future for the greek people. Woodruff Mark Weisbrot what should the people of greece do. I would go for a no volt because you have to look at who is responsible for this mess, who is responsible for six years of depression. Who is responsible for the banks closing right now. Its because the European Central bank decided last sunday to limit the amount of emergency liquidity assistance so that the banks wouldnt have enough money to open. And they did this very deliberately i think to intimidate the voters into voting yes. Everything that comes out of the mouths of the european officials right now is trying to scare and intimidate people to make them feel this pain and tell them this is what youre going to get if you vote no. This is what youre going to get if your government is awe day must enough to insist and arouse the Greek Economy to recover and unemployment to come down. Thats really all theyve been asking for and the european authorities have been stub burn and pretty mean about it. Woodruff what about that the central bank and europeans are asking too much of the greek people. Theres no doubt greece has been through a tremendous Economic Crises in the last five years. Theres also no doubt that this has been associated directly with the imf troika program but we have to look at the starting point of this program. In 2010 when the bailout was initially launched, greece had a primary deficit of more than 10 of gdp. If you didnt have a bailout there would be even greater amounts of austerity at this point. The other thing i would highlight is that from the perspective of the europeans, you cannot expect taxpayers to pour money into greece. Thats not the way bailouts will work or the european bailout will work either. No matter what the greek voters choose on sunday we need to recognize that european voters elsewhere in the euro zone they have an equally legitimate democratly right to say no to continuing payments to greece. Unfortunately i think thats what may well happen. Woodruff Mark Weisbrot, what about his earlier point that the rest of europe cannot be expected to continue to bail out and support a Greek Economy that hasnt tightened its own belt. Well they have tightened their belt. They had six years of repression theyve got 26 of unemployment, theyve got 60 europe ozone employment. Theyve cut their imports by 36 . One of the biggest adjustments in the world. Last year they had the largest cyclical adjusted primary Budget Surplus in europe. So theyve done the adjustment. Theyve gone through hell. And where is the light at the end of the tunnel. The european authorities are not offering anything. Its becoming more and more clear actually, and ive been writing about this for a while, that the real goal of these authorities is to really get rid of the greek government. Thats what theyre trying to do and thats why they wont allow the economy to recover so far. And theyre the ones inflicting the damage, okay. Its not the greek people that are responsible the bank closure right now. Or for the recession going on this long. You know, one way you can see it woodruff let me just get Jacob Kirkegaard to respond to what you just said. No light at the end of the tunnel. That the European Union, the International Monetary fund just keeps on asking more and more and more. The light tend of the tunnel, i mean the europeans have already restructured existing greek debt at least three times and its very clear they will have to do so again. Theres no doubt that everyone in europe including germany recognizes that the money length to greece will not be repaid as they are currently structured. Restructuring will have to happen. The question is whether or not you want an unconditional restructuring whether you want a restructuring based on a Greek Economy that actually has a chance to grow afterwards. Grow now. The european banks have pushed the recession back this year and they started doing that ten days after election. They didnt have to do that. The country was going to grow by to. 5 this year. You have people trying to blame the greek government and thats what the referendum is about. Whose fault is it and what will they get out of the resettle most economists know these economies have failed. They failed in europe. Europe has twice the unemployment that we do. Why is that . Because their central bank didnt do its job. Thats the difference. Woodruff do you want to respond. I would just say it is certainly the case that greece was on track in late 2014. If you read the recent report that came out on friday, thats what it said. Greece was on track to grow and then this government was elected, surrounded with significant Political Uncertainty and promised to blow up the program as it existed. Greece was on track in 2014 and it wasnt the europeans. Its this government in greece that decided to take everything off track. Woodruff theres much more to discuss here but were going to watch that vote on sunday and certainly be reporting on the aftermath afterwards. Were going to thank you both for now. Jacob kirkegaard, Mark Weisbrot. Thank you. Thank you. Woodruff as we head into the july 4th weekend, many Law Enforcement and Security Officials across the u. S. Are on a heightened state of alert. Hari sreenivasan has that story. Sreenivasan thanks, judy. So whats behind the increased state of readiness . For that we turn to Daniel Benjamin, former coordinator for Counter Terrorism at the state department during the first term of the obama administration. Hes now a professor at Dartmouth College and he joins us from New Hampshire. We kind of get mixed signals here. The department of homeland security, fbi say to everyone be increasingly vigilant over this holiday weekend. Yet they arent saying theres a specific threat. Thats correct. First theyre not saying it to everyone, theyre saying it to Law Enforcement. If you wanted to compare this to the old days, this wouldnt be actually a change color in the color coded scheme that we used to have. Its sort of an alert to authorities to be vigilant, to be cautious to make sure they are well staffed and look into people of interest in case theyre tracking anyone. They do say they do not have any credible intelligence on particular plotting and in fact to date theres been no announce to any credible intelligence on plotting by isis in particular against the United States. But because of the increased incidence of what have been called lone wolf attacks people who wish to act out want to tear up our own attack to show their common cause with isis, i think theres a greater concern this time around than most times. That is to say theres a greater chance someone will try to do something that has been the case in the past. Sreenivasan right. Speaking of probabilities, theres a chance somebody is killed in a drunking accident over the 4th of july weekend than killed by an isis fighter. Technically speaking thats a greater chance. Sreenivasan is this circumstantial . Is this the month of ramadan, a series of the attacks that happened in tunisia and other places theyre trying to warn Law Enforcement interest. Thats certainly part of it. Its important to recall that at the beginning of ramadan and isis spokesman called for people essentially to carry out independent acts, independent acts of jihad around the world. And we did see the attacks in kuwait in tunisia and in france just a few days ago. Those likely were not coordinated. Its possible the one in kuwait was a real isis attack, perhaps an isis group in saudi arabia. The once in france seems to be completely independent without any outside coordination. Although its of course early days in the investigation. Sreenivasan is the concern here about someone going overseas, being trained by isis and coming back or someone who is here sort of home grown in the United States and inspired by carry out an act of violence . Both are concerned, but just as an empirical matter, people who are just here have never gone abroad have been the ones who have been most active in the United States, and in western europe. Weve only had one case that im aware of where someone who had been in syria, had been involved in fighting came back and carried out an attack that was in brussels at a jewish museum. But most of the activity has been by people who are motivated to show that they too are part of the cause. Sreenivasan all right

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