Transcripts For KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2013

KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace December 8, 2013

Bring them to me. Lets go. But, were not repealing it as long as im president. Now, i dont know why any american would trust this government after all the broken promises theyve already seen in obama care. Well discuss the latest on obama care and a new gop plan to boost our inner cities with kentucky senator rand paul. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. Plus, with the website working better and enrollment on the rise, well ask one of the laws architects, dr. Ezequiel emanuel where obama care goes from here. Its been ten years since i took over the anchor chair here. Its been quite a ride. Well look back at some of our favorite moments from the last ten years. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. This is a national day of prayer and reflection in south africa. As that nation continues to mourn the man many consider its father. South africans gathered at makeshift shrines to remember Nelson Mandela who died thursday at the age of 95. Fox News Senior Foreign Affairs correspondent is live outside mandelas home in johannesburg with the latest. Reporter chris, this was supposed to be that national day of prayer and reflection. And, in fact, across the country its filled with people marking the day. Here in what was the old home neighborhood of Nelson Mandela, just a few days after his passing, the mood here is anything but solemn. In fact, it is festive. Take a look at what we saw, what we heard. They sang. They danced. They chanted. Blacks, whites and all races. Young, very young and old. It seemed important for all to be as close as possible to the last spot where the man they consider the father of their country breathed his last breath. Candles were lit. Gifts were presented. The south African People suddenly realizing the person who helped rid the country of ar p apartheid is no more. A huge mountain of flowers are being laid by his fans, by his friends, by the people of his country as they come here to pray, to mourn, to celebrate, to express their feelings. As you can see, the nation is mourning. We lost a big hero. He meant a lot to me. Reporter he did a lot. A horrible loss. For everybody. I was still a baby. Now im here with my baby. Reporter now comes a long week of memorials to the late Nelson Mandela. It is billed as the biggest funeral of the century. On tuesday therell be a massive event at a soccer stadium here. In attendance, president obama and former president george w. Bush. Also coming, former president s clinton and carter. Mandelas body will lie in state for three days. Then he will be buried next sunday in his home village. Buried, but certainly not forgotten. Chris . Reporting live from south africa. Thanks for that. Later in the program, our exclusive beinterview with pik zbln bo botha. Now we turn to washington, where the Obama Administration has put together a strike team of democratic lawmakers to sell the Embattled Health care law to a skeptical public. Well speak with an architect of obama care in the next segment. But joining me now is kentucky senator rand paul. Senator, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Good morning. Before we get to obama care, i want to talk to you about your trip to detroit this week where you helped open the first of what are going to be several republican Outreach Centers in inner cities. You also unveiled your plan for Economic Freedom zones in depressed areas. Lets take a look at that plan. You would set a flat individual and Corporate Tax rate in those depressed areas of 5 . Give parents more School Choice and education tax credits. And loosen visa rules to encourage foreign sbe pentrepre to open businesses. Senator, while critics say those are all good ideas, youve got to pour more government money into those inner cities if youre going to make a difference. Well, chris, it hasnt worked. I mean, the president poured a trillion dollars into the nations economy. When you divided it out it was about 400,000 per job. The problem with a government stimulus is you pick the winners and losers. With this stimulus that im talking about, a free market stimulus, you simply leave the money in the hands of those who earned it. So the customers have actually picked out the successful people, the ones they choose to buy products from. Those people get more money. Like i met a young man, young africanamerican man who has his own restaurant. His first question is, do you have any tax breaks for me for my business . Thats what this would do. It would help people who are already in business and trying. I dont have to tell you, senator, that republicans have a steep hill to climb in inner city neighborhoods. In the city of detroit in november, 97 of detroit voters supported president obama. 2 voted for romney. The black Unemployment Rate nationally is still 12. 5 . And right now president obama is calling out the gop for what he says is your partys refusal to extend longterm Unemployment Benefits. Take a look at what he said this week. For decades, congress has voted to offer relief to job seekers. Including when the Unemployment Rate was lower than it is today. But now that economic lifeline is in jeopardy. All because republicans in this congress, which is on track to be the most unproductive in history, have so far refused to extend it. Senator, let me ask you a direct question. Do you personally, do you support extending Unemployment Benefits, or would you let 1. 3 million americans lose those benefits before the end of the year . I do support Unemployment Benefits for the 26 weeks that theyre paid for. If you extend it beyond that you do a disservice to these workers. There was a study that came out a few months ago, and it said if you have a worker thats been unemployed for four weeks and on Unemployment Insurance and one thats on 99 weeks, which would you hire . Every employer, nearly 100 , said they will always hire the person whos been out of work four weeks. When you allow people to be on Unemployment Insurance for 99 weeks, youre causing them to become part of this perpetual Unemployed Group in our economy. And it really while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people youre trying to help. I dont doubt the president s motives. But black unemployment in america is double white unemployment. And it hasnt budged under this president. Senator a lot of africanamericans voted for him, but i dont think its worked. I dont think his policies have worked. Senator, how do you persuade the africanamerican voter in the inner city youre not going to spend more government money, youre going to vote to let the the Unemployment Benefits lapse, how do you persuade that black voter, this is good for them . This is the right policy . My economic stimulus plan for detroit would leave over a billion dollars in detroits economy and would stimulate detroit. There is no other plan on the table. And theres not going to be some grand bail out thats going to go through congress. Other than my plan, if my plan would pass, i think its the only one that politically could pass, over a billion dollars would be left in detroit. Im also talking about restoring voting rights. Im talking about School Choice. I think theres a lot to offer in the republican message that hasnt been offered in the past. And i think theres only upside potential for voters in detroit or all the big cities for republicans. Senator, you face the same challenge when it comes to obama care. You and most of your colleagues in the senate and the house, republican colleagues, want to repeal the law. But the other side says that if you were to do that, that you would take away Preventative Care for 105 million americans. Free Preventative Care. Lets put it up on the screen. Obama care provides Health Services to 105 million americans including free immunization for children, free cancer screenings, free mammograms. Question. What is your plan that would allow these folks, the 105 million americans, to keep those benefits . First of all, there is nothing for free. Youre going to pay for it. Were paying for it through higher premiums. Were also going to find out in january that more people will lose their insurance under obama care, i think, than will actually gain it. The republican plan is freedom of choice. More choices, not less. Obama care narrows your choices. Were for competition. Were for selling insurance across state lines. And above all, were for driving premiums down. The problem under the old system was premiums were too high. Under obama care the premiums are even higher. I dont see any way obama care can work. Let me turn to another subject. Drones. Last march you famously took to the senate floor for 13 hours to filibuster a nomination because of your opposition to the military use of drones to attack u. S. Citizens. This week, as im sure you know, jeff bezos, the head were looking at a picture of the drone right there of amazon announced that they have plans, a hope, maybe five years down the road, that drones would come pick up a package, a book, a sweater, and deliver it to your front door where you could you could take it instead of a delivery truck. When you see that, and im sure you have seen those videos, does that excite you or do you think to yourself, thats a problem and ive got to find a way to block it . Well, you know, im not against technology. Im not one of these people who says, oh, unmanned airplanes is really a bad thing. There will be air Traffic Control issues. My problem is more with surveillance for privacy reasons. Not with delivering of packages. So im worried about the government looking into our backyard. Im also worried about private Companies Looking and counting and looking in our windows. I have said previously, this has nothing to do with amazon, but that a rules on peeping toms will have to be applied to higher technology. There has to be a certain extension of your privacy. Not only your house, but your yard and the things that you do that really people shouldnt be able to observe all of the time. And so there will have to be rules on private entities, but really most particularly im concerned about the government looking at our activities. We also learned this week, another revelation from edward snowden, that the nsa collects records on cell phones. 4 billion cell phone records outside the country every day. And that they can also track where those cell phones are so they can track where people are. Big picture. How severely would you like to restrict the surveillance by the National Security agency . I would like to apply the Fourth Amendment to thirdparty records. I dont think you give up your privacy when someone else holds your records. When i have a contract with a phone company, i think those are still my records. And you can look at them if youre from the government if you ask a judge. But the most important thing is, a warrant applies to one person. A warrant doesnt apply to everyone in america. So its absolutely against the spirit and the letter of the Fourth Amendment to say that a judge can write one warrant and you can get every phone call in america. Thats whats happening. I think its wrong. It goes against everything america stands for. And i will help to fight that all the way to the Supreme Court. And we need the Supreme Court to reexamine privacy, the Fourth Amendment and our records. So you would ban, if you could, mass data mining. This huge vacuum hoovering up of information . Im for going after terrorists with every tool we have. Im not opposed to the nsa. Im not opposed to spying. But i am in favor of the Fourth Amendment. If we think someones a terrorist, you call a judge. You get a warrant. If that persons called 100 people, you get 100 more warrants. If theyve called 10,000 people, you got to get 10,000 individual warrants. And its a pain. But its a pain because were trying to protect peoples freedom. Were trying to proetect the bil of rights. Thats what were fighting against terrorism to protect. We cant give up the bill of rights in order to try to fight terrorism. You have to keep your privacy. You have to keep the bill of rights sf rights. Finally, senator, you knew i was going to ask about this. 2016. You said this week your wife, kelly, is strongly opposed to your running for president. I know how important that is if your wife doesnt like an idea. You said youre going to try to, quote, persuade her during the next year. I got to say, talking to you on camera and off, i get the distinct impression you would like to run for president. Well, you know, the thought has crossed my mind, chris. I am seriously thinking about it. But im also very serious about the family considerations. You know, just just look at what happens daily to any politician in america. You talk about how uncivil things are. I mean, they really are. They do take a toll on family. It is a big consideration. I really am not sure what will happen. Well go another year. Sometimes you have a good week. The next week they pound you to death. You know, the haters and the hacks go after you. Its like, you know, it is really an ordeal to be in public life sometimes. There are great things to be part of the debate over the Fourth Amendment in the institution. I love that stuff. I also hate it, when you, when family is attacked and when they get into the news and so do they. To follow up on that, sir, would it be fair to say that family considerations at this point, at least, are the only thing that would keep you from running . Theyre a major component of the discussion, but a lot of things enter into it, you know. Well see what happens over the next year. But i really am going to keep doing the things i am doing. Trying to help fight for jobs in kentucky as well as across america. And ill just keep doing the things that i want to do and i think the people of kentucky elected me to do. I just am not ready to make a decision yet. Senator paul, thank you. Thanks for joining us. Always a pleasure to talk with you, sir. Thanks. Up next, the website is working better. But are obama cares problems solved . Dr. Ezequiel emanuel, one of the laws architects, returns to Fox News Sunday. Plus, today marks ten years since ive joined the fox family. Good morning and welcome to Fox News Sunday volume 2. Oh, my gosh. Well, well have some of the highlights from the past decade later in the program. Wed like you to logon to facebook and share some of your favorite moments on your page. And well be right back. [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the Aerospace Industry in the u. S. . At t. Rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. Its just one reason over 70 of our mutual funds beat their 10year lipper average. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. 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Stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. Other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. Nothing can reverse copd. Spiriva helps me breathe better. Does breathing with copd weigh you down . Dont wait to ask your doctor about spiriva. The white house says the heal healthcare. Gov website is dramatically improved. Does that mean obama care is now out of the woods . Joining us again, dr. Ezekiel emanuel, architect of the Affordable Care act and vice provost at the university of pennsylvania. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Good. Since the relaunch a week ago of the website, enrollment numbers are up sharply. Thats the good news. But the Administration Says that the website is still sending erroneous messages or incomplete information to insurers about one in ten people who think they have signed up. Isnt a 10 error rate still a serious problem . Well, as i understand it, theyre working very hard on those socalled 834 forms. And, second of all, theyre working with the insurers to clean up that information. And they did push that a little further down, which they have time to do because they dont need to get the information to them for another few weeks. And theyre both working really hard to solve that problem. In addition

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