Transcripts For KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2014

KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace March 23, 2014

A former investigator with the ntsb and the faa. Then, russia defies the u. S. Again and completes the annexation of premier. The world is watching with grave concern as russia has positioned its military in a way that could lead to further incursions into southern and Eastern Ukraine. Our sunday panel analyze whats russian president putin wants and what it will take to stop him. Plus, as the 2016 race for the white house heats up, one potential gop candidate is counting his States Economic turn around. The nation and the world, they have their eyes on ohio. They know were coming back. They want to know, frankly, how were doing it. Ohio Governor John Kasich joins us. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. And our power player of the week. Former Washington Post ceo Donald Graham on his new initiative for the dreamers. I can help them, low income kids get to colleges is about as good as it gets. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Hello again from fox news in washington. Were now in the week three in the search for ma lash why Airline Flight 370. And potential leads keep coming. But so far none have led to that missing jetliner. Malaysia says its now received satellite images from france offering the latest sign of the potential debris in the indian ocean. Planes and ships search a remote stretch of water. Some are looking for a palette spotted from the air saturday. So far, they turned up nothing. Joining us with the latest, Fox News National community jennifer griffin. When the air France Flight went down off the coast of brazil in 2009, first sign of that plane was a wooden palette plated. They are used inside planes cargo containers. Search continues to focus on the southern corridor. Australian officials add Malaysian Airlines to provide them with a packing list. The french satellite shows objects in the same search zone as the satellite images provided by the Chinese Government saturday. The chinese photograph shows an object 72 feet by 42 feet which could be a wing. We have now had a number of very credible leads. And there is increasing hope, no more than hope. No more than hope that we might be on the road to discovering what did happen to this aircraft. The u. S. Navys p8 plane returned to the search sunday after a day of rest and maintenance joining a total of eight search planes. Australian authorities said the plane that spotted the wooden palette was unable to take photos from the air. It takes them four hours to fly from the search zone. They can spend three hours search brg they have to return. Seven chinese ships joined the search. Weather continues to be a factor. It is much kleer today. Sea fog and low clouds have been clearing up. Mat lay shan defense minister appealed to church goers around the world to say a prayer for those onboard flight 370 and their families. Thank you. For more, lets bring in texas congressman michael mccall, chair of the Homeland Security committee. And from new mexico, dr. Allen zeile, a former crash investigator for both the National Transportation safety board and the faa. And author of air safety investigators using science to save lives one crash at a time. Chairman mccall, any must information on what happened to flight 370 and where it is now . Well, as ive said all along, i believe its in the indian ocean. I think the malaysian government spent too much time focusing on the northern routes and the gulf of thailand and kazakh zan. It would have been picked up by radar and we knew that. I know satellite imagery given to the malaysians established. That but we wasted a week of precious time up in that region when all along its been in southern indian ocean i think is where the location is. I think this is hopeful that now we have the third satellite imagery of debris in this area and the good news is we can find it so we can get to the black box to finally found out what may have happened in this case. Let me ask you about another Law Enforcement aspect of this, chairman. The fbi has now gotten ahold of the hard drive of the Flight Simulator of that chief pilot. And we know that he deleted some files. Any information that they have been able to come up with anything to retrieve some of those files and also i know that Law Enforcement authorities are looking back through all of the emails of the two pilots. Sure. Theyre going to scrub all the emails. The hard drive of the simulator at quantico is under review. Having worked with the fbi, i know that even though you may delete a file, they can be retrieved later. I no he that the fbi is working to do that. Now we all delete files. But the question is what was deleted and could that be evidence of a route that was taken in this case . And so i think thats all under review. Let me just say there are many theories floating around out there. None in my opinion connect all the dots at this point in time. But thats why we have an investigation on going. Let me bring you in, allen deal. The best leads we have so far are the satellite images of debris, something about 70 feet long in the indian ocean. One image, the one on the left taken by an American Satellite Company last sunday. The other on the right taken by chinese satellite on tuesday. Now, of course, we have the french satellite that spotted something. Allen, a couple of questions. First of all, do you have an opinion on whether or not that is wreckage from the plane or is that just impossible to tell from the satellite images . What do you make of this palette that was seen by one of the search planes yesterday . Well, theyre all promising. Obviously, theres a lot of debris out there. We need a lot more resources than eight airplanes and 20 ships. I think we need 48 airplanes and quick. I just hope that president obama is getting the right kind of information. We have a fleet of p3 alliance, older than the p 8s. They need to be out there looking. The u. S. Air force has nc130s that have aerial refueling. They can stay on station a lot longer than the p3s. That sort of equipment needs to be moved into the area to help identify what is on the surface. Allen, as you may know, the sailors call this stretch of the indian ocean the roaring 40s both for the latitude on the globe and also for very rough seas and high winds. What do you think of the chances given the fact that these satellite images are days old, one, that can you find what they are and then if does it turn out to be parts of the plane that can you retrace over the course of what is now two weeks all the way back to the crash site . Well, that is problematic, even if it does turn out to be part of the aircraft for all the reasons you talked about. The tides, winds and so on. Weve seen this before in 1987 the south africa lost a 747 talking to air Traffic Control when it went down. They didnt get throughout in time to find the pingers on the black boxes. It took them two years just like with air france in the south atlantic. This is probably going to be a very long search and unless we just luck out and one of these p3s or p8s hears the pinger and localize it quickly. Chairman mccall, as head of the Homeland Security committee, are Security Officials still pursuing the possibility this is a terrorist plot . Are they still pursuing the possibility that plane didnt crash but landed somewhere on a remote runway in the southern indian ocean or have they basically given up on that scenario . Well, i think in terms of landing it on a runway somewhere, probably less likely. I think its in the indian ocean. However, we havent ruled out terrorism. Although there is no direct evidence of that at this point in time. But if this was a deliberate attack as we think it probably was, remember, the tranresponders turned off after they exited malaysian airspace which is sort of odd scenario and the acar system. Then the route is completely turned around dramatically. That suggests that either the pilot intentionally did it for whatever reason or that something was happening in the cockpit on the airplane with some possibly some of the passengers. So we cant rule out the possibility of passengers, terrorist link to that. But one thing we do know for certain is the tranresponders turned off, the routes changed. What caused that . We dont know at this point in time. Its either an accidental fire that may have caused that or a more deliberate intentional act. I think thats why we need to get to the bottom and get that black box in the indian ocean. Allen, there is also a good deal of speculation about the Payne Stewart scenario. That is how the famous golfer ended up dying. However this event started, that in the end all of the people on the plane including the pilots of the hijackers were incapacitated and the plane just kept flying on autopilot until it ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean. How likely do you think that is . Well, that is certainly a possibility. I have to agree with congressman mccall, everything is still on the table. There is even a better example of that and that was with a hilo greek 737. They had a slow decompression. The pilots passed out along with the passengers and a Flight Attendant who they have these walk around oxygen bottles and masks went to the cockpit. He flew the aircraft until it ran out of gas 2 1 2 hours later. We know the 777 has a lot more fuel than the 737. That scenario is in play. But there is another one that was a 777, egyptair 777 sitting at the gate in cairo and they had in that case a rapid fire that within a matter of minutes burned a hole in the fuselage. Sitting on the ground that is a problem. They got everybody off. The captain got everybody off the plane. Im not saying thats exactly the scenario. Chris, it burned a hole in the fusela fuselage. If that happened at 35,000 feet, we would have had multiple emergency. Im not sure any crew member or crew members could have handled that. And people talk about the jie ragss, vertical gyration, that is not an autopilot maneuver. There may have been a Flight Attendant at the control. This is all speculation. Im not saying thats what happened. It does fit some of the data. So you need to take a look at what happened at cairogate there. One last question for you, congressman mccall. It turns out there were lithium batteries in the cargo, possibility that they could have caught on fire. Lithium batteries are hazardous cargo. In the United States they would never be onboard with passengers. I think thats very important to note in this case they were. We had the flight out of ab u daby that went down, actually went out and returned and 30 minutes later crashed as well. So we have examined that possible theory in this case because they did turn right back around to malaysia. So we thought about that. But then he says okay, good night. And the tranresponders turned off two minutes later. It makes you wonder theres no distress on the plane at the time. Makes you wonder if there was any sort of crisis. And the fact it flew seven more hours after a potential he electrical fire is on the plane. They could have turned off the tranresponder . Is that a viable theory . It is a theory that needs to be examined along with an intentional deliberate act to bring down the plane. The mystery continues. Congressman mccall, allen, thank you both. Thank you both for joining us. Well stay on top of the story, gentlemen. Thank you. Thanks, chris. Russian troops mass on u. S. s border and kremlin retaliates. Now what happens . Our sunday group weighs in. Plus, what you would like to ask the panel about the situation in ukraine . Just go to facebook or twitter and we may use your questions on the air. If. Hey breathings hard. Know the feeling . Copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. Spiriva is a oncedaily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours. Spiriva helps me breathe easier. Spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fastacting inhalers for sudden symptoms. Tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. These may worsen with spiriva. Discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. 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Russia is massing 20,000 troops on the border of Eastern Ukraine with tanks, artillery and aircraft. Laura, i mean its a guess. Do you think putin invades and what can and should the u. S. And the west do to try to persuade him not to . Remember that commercial that says your brain on drugs . This is your country in decline. I would say that United States has a leader now that had an expansive view of what the World Community would be like, would have more harmony. The u. S. Would step back and the world would step in and would have a more stable world. What i think you see now is that, of course, the world is less stable with america weaker. What we can do in this part of the world, i dont think were going to do much. I think we can talk a lot about sanctions. Sanctions might have some minimal effect. Unless europe steps up and less germany matches the rhetoric with real world actions against the former soviet union, i think putin sees this as a massive opening for him domestically and on the international stage. You see him getting closer to china. They have a Strong Alliance now. I think americas options are very limited. President obama flies to the hague tomorrow to meet with the leaders of the g7, russia is excluded. It will be the leaders of the g7 to talk about what they do next. Bob, do you think its fair to say that putins response is because of weakness from the u. S. . Well, you have to start with some sort of policy and actually if you look at the sanctions policy that obama proposed, its reasonable. Its a reasonable starting point. Remember, the sanctions had worked to a degree in iran. And a lot of experts look at this and remember russia is in a sense an oil and gas company masquerading as a nation state. And that being the case, the leverage here and particularly if you ratchet it up is a starting point. I think the problem is the country is not speaking with one voice. You need some sort of our country . Our country. Russia is speaking with one voice. The putin voice. But we have multiple voices here. And the president needs to bring in the republicans and the congress on this and come up with some sort of plan. You know, the opening here is absolutely right. This is a deadly, serious moment and it has to be treated as that. Paul, i want to get your assessment based on your jobs at the pentagon and then as head of the world bank. First, here is putin speaking this week and expressing a long list of grievances about being pushed around by the west, led by the u. S. Translator they have come to believe in their exceptionalism and their sense of being the chosen one, that they can decide the destiny of the world. It is only them who can be right. Your sense of putin and how far he is prepared to go to restore greater russia . I think you can say putin is saying we can with brutal strength. He did this as prime minister. He rode to presidency in russia by this wave of support for genocidal war in chechnya. He is playing the russianal nationalism card which works very well for him. Vulnerability, everyone in russia knows that he is corrupt and they hate it. He doesnt like it. He doesnt like it when one of his Close Friends who i think is the 16th richest man is put on the treasury list and they know that some of that money is going to putin. That is his vulnerability. I want to talk about another vulnerability and that and put it on your hat as head of the world bank and that is the russian economy. Since this all started at the beginning of this month the russian stock market went down 10 . Credit is downgraded. The russian economy from stable to negative. How effective would these u. S. Sanctions and western sanctions be in weakening the economy of russia . How vulnerable is it . I think it is a vulnerable economy. He is trying to play the card back the other way because like any former communist, he believes our government is run by business people. So he is putting the squeeze on american businesses in russia. I dont think thats going to work. Look, we are not going to get him out of crimea. But we can make him pay a very high price for it which will in turn help to deter from doing more like destabilizing the rest of the country without invading it. The third thing is essentially, strengthen spine, if you like, that is unfair, he has spine, but to give the ukrainians and polls and the other countries who correctly feel deeply threatened by this russian doctrine to stand up to him and well be supporting him. That has been the key to stability in europe. Would you send military aid . I would. I think im disturbed to hear that we may be cutting one of the pentagon programs that would support these countries. I would like to see a much quicker, much stronger response to what is going on here. I am encouraged that they are finally putting some serious troublemakers on the sanctions list. I am encouraged that it looks like theyre kicking him out of the g8. I thi

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