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Pelley there is a peaceful rebellion growing against federal immigration law, and the interpretation of that law by the Trump Administration. More than 800 houses of worship across the country have volunteered to shelter Illegal Immigrants and their families who face deportation, daring federal agents to step through their stained glass doors. The churches and synagogues are joining more than 600 cities and counties that have declared themselves sanctuaries ordering their police not to detain people if its only because of their immigration status. In no other venue of the law has so much of the nation stood in defiance of washington. Philadelphias arch Street Methodist Church was built by abraham lincolns favorite minister. Reverend Robin Hynicka we are a sanctuary church. Pelley and 155 years later, reverend Robin Hynicka is on the same chapter and verse. Hynicka my baptismal covenant, theres a vow thats taken either on my behalf when i was baptized as a child or as an adult, that i would take the power and the freedom that god gives me to resist evil, injustice, and oppression in whatever forms they show themselves. Pelley well, in your view, what is this, evil, injustice, or oppression . Hynicka its injustice and oppression, all of which is evil. Yeah, when a human beings human rights are denied, when they cant stay with their family, when they cant work, when they cant participate in the community in which they have deep roots, all of those apply. Pelley hes talking about Javier Flores garcia, who has lived in the Church Basement for six months. He came from mexico, illegally, in 1997. Hes a landscaper with a decade old d. U. I. On his record. His other offense is crossing the border repeatedly. A judge ordered him deported, but he moved here rather than leave his three children, who were born citizens. Javier garcia translated i think you have to keep fighting, and im doing this for my kids. And i would do it again if it became necessary. Hynicka were taking a leap of faith, right, in many respects, because we dont know whats going to happen. Pelley federal agents can arrest flores in the church, but u. S. Immigration and customs enforcement, known as ice, has a decadeslong policy of avoiding places of worship, schools and hospitals. Daniel ragsdale my advice would be, they should come out of the basement of the churches and follow the law. Pelley Daniel Ragsdale is Deputy Director of ice. He runs the daily operations and oversees 13,000 officers. Ragsdale so if they are to check in with ice, they should come and check in with ice. Pelley checking in with ice is going to get them deported. Ragsdale checking in with ice will follow the law. And in cases where theres a removal order, of course we would execute it. Pelley how much concern do you have about separating families in deportations . Ragsdale as a human being, i know it is traumatic for folks. But i will also say that the rule of law is something that america is built on. But this seems to be the one area where the narrative about separating families, you know, sort of gets a little bit ratcheted up. Pelley well, you can understand why. Ragsdale well, i can. But i would suggest that every person who has, you know, come to the United States illegally, just like if i went somewhere and, you know, resided in violation of law, i could expect at some point that sovereign country to want to remove me. Candidate trump were rounding em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way. And theyre gonna be happy, because they wanna be legalized. Pelley before the election, candidate trump told us he would deport all of an estimated 11 million Illegal Immigrants. Trump and, and, by the way, i know it doesnt sound nice. But not everything is nice. Pelley now, President Trump says hes pursuing violent criminal immigrants first. President trump you see whats happening at the border. All of a sudden for the first time, were getting gang members out, were getting drug lords out. Were getting really bad dudes out of this country. And at a rate that no one has ever seen before, and they are the bad ones. Pelley its not just the bad guys. The fact is, in the Trump Administration, according to ice, about 11,000 undocumented people with no criminal records have been detained so far. Thats twice as many as last year. Because of this, the number of religious institutions across the country offering sanctuary has doubled to 800. Just last week, this church in buffalo, new york, offered sanctuary to a family of six from honduras. The church has opened its doors to 40 Illegal Immigrants since january. When congregations in cities including phoenix, denver and philadelphia give sanctuary, they are in open defiance of immigration law. That leads me to wonder whether theres any internal conflict within you. I mean, you preach morals and yet youre breaking the law. Hynicka theres no conflict. I think ive said this before, that when a law breaks the backs of gods people, then its time for us to think about breaking those laws. Pelley trouble is, those laws never stop changing. And that is one reason the immigration debate is never settled. Since 1790, congress has rewritten immigration law, on average, about every four years. America imported Chinese Labor to build the transcontinental railroad. And when it was finished, congress banned all chinese. In world war i, nearly 20 of u. S. Forces were not citizens. In world war ii, america begged more than four million mexicans to come to work. And in 1986, Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to Illegal Immigrants. Trump day one, my first hour in office, those people are gone. Pelley mr. Trump blames immigrants for violence. He often fired up his rallies by raising the murder, by an illegal immigrant, of a woman in san francisco, a sanctuary city. But according to the department of justice, the incarceration rate for Illegal Immigrants is onethird that of citizens. Jim kenney to lay criminality at the feet of immigrants is not only morally unfair, it is factually wrong. Pelley one of jim kenneys first acts as mayor was to declare philadelphia a sanctuary, which means his police do not ask about citizenship, and will not hold Illegal Immigrants if the only reason is that ice wants to deport them. He says it violates the constitution to hold people without a warrant. There are more than 600 cities, counties and states that consider themselves sanctuaries. Two years ago, there were half as many. Trump weve ordered a crackdown on sanctuary cities. Pelley President Trump is now trying to cut off federal funds from these sanctuary cities, but hes been stopped so far by the courts. Kenney this is not a us versus them. This is this is we upholding the constitution of am the United States of america, and asking them to comply with it also by presenting us with a proper judicial warrant so we can release that person to their custody. Pelley the feds are talking about taking your federal money away. And mr. Mayor, i bet you cant afford that. Kenney no. But think about the conundrum that that that this presented. If you if you accept the assertion that undocumented immigrants cause crime which i do not accept, and i think its wrong why would you Defund Police departments . Pelley there are people shouting at the television right now, saying, if they came illegally, they shouldnt be here. Its a terrible thing, but they shouldnt have come. Kenney well, you know, ellis island had opened in 1892. The bulk of irish diaspora came to america in the 1840s. We didnt have papers either. We were undocumented. There was an antiitalian slur, when i was growing up in my neighborhood, called w. O. P. Thats without papers. If you come to the country without documents because youre starving in your country or youre being held hostage by drug dealers or youre afraid your children are going to be shot in the streets or on their farm, i think that thats self preservation and selfsurvival. And any group of people would flock to america, because thats been the Historic Place where people came to be saved. Sixto paz this is my country. Im working hard. Pelley sixto paz would have been deported ten months ago if he hadnt confined himself to Shadow Rock United Church of christ in phoenix. Ismael delgado moved in four months ago. Ismael delgado we came to work. Pelley paz crossed illegally in 1985. Under the policy of president reagan, he was granted a work permit, which was revoked under the policies of george w. Bush. His four children are citizens by birth. His youngest is five. Paz i spent 32 years over here, and i dont want to leave him alone. And i paid my taxes for 28 years. Pelley paid your taxes 28 years . Paz yes, yes. Pelley there are people watching the interview who are saying, you shouldnt have come here. Paz when someone, youre hungry, you not have a job, you not have money. What are you gonna do . I not come to United States to take vacation, man. Im here because i had to. Im come over here, and i respect all the law, i respect the people, im working hard to do the best. Ive got a clean record. And i learned a lot over here, i learned a language. Its not, i dont speak very well, but im working on that. And my son, my daughters, theyre professionals. Pelley you have two older daughters who are medical assistants . Paz yes. Pelley they both graduated from college here in the United States . Paz yes, yes, sir. Pelley sounds like the american dream. Paz yes. Pelley if the priority is serious criminal offenders, why are we seeing deportation orders for little old ladies and middleaged men whove never committed a crime . Ragsdale thats a great question. So if someone who was placed in removal proceedings goes through that entire process, again, all at taxpayer expense, and gets a removal order, if we encounter that person and that order has been litigated and challenged and due process has been met, its odd that anyone would expect us to simply ignore all those decisions by lawyers, by judges, by federal court judges in some cases, and simply say, were going to make policy on the street and ignore it. Pelley one of the changes in the guidance from the Obama Administration to the Trump Administration is that President Trumps executive order prioritizes the removal of those who entered illegally. Well, thats everybody. Thats 11 million people. Ragsdale well, we only have the same size workforce. Theres just no way that that could simply be done in any rapid fashion, which is why we are still focusing on the folks that i talked about, which are people that present the greatest risk to public safety. Hynicka javier embodies the spirit of sanctuary. He and we together are sanctuary. Pelley do you worry that the government might take steps against sanctuary congregations across the country . Hynicka i do worry about that. I think it would be a huge breach of the ageold traditions of providing, at least having some place in our Civil Society where there is, there is an opportunity to challenge laws, and policies, and procedures that are creating more injustice than they are creating justice. Pelley in rare cases, ice officers have made arrests near schools and churches. A man was arrested in california dropping his child at school, and in virginia, several Illegal Immigrants were arrested shortly after walking out of this church, leaving many to wonder, where are the lines once the borders been crossed . Ragsdale those are the laws that congress has passed. I dont think its anybodys question that if you dont have lawful status that at some point you could be removed. And i think thats something that people should be aware of. And, again, i think the president , when he announced the program, was pretty clear about that. Money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial, youre in charge. Good evening, the Congressional Budget Office is expected to release a cost estimate of the so called Trumpcare Bill this week. Housing reports are expected to show a hot market with a shortage of homes for sale. And tonight the ringling brothers circus endings its its 146 year run, im elaine quijano, cbs news. Will you be ready when the moment turns romantic . 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