Waiting, after we have to be hopeful. I like some of what trump likes to do and some of what he wants to do scares me to death. He has been in office a little over 30 days. He is going to be there for four years. I am giving him four years to make a difference. Dickerson Ohio Governor john kasich thinks he has a better plan for fixing obamacare, we will talk to him about his meeting with the president , his one time republican primary rival. Our National Security correspondent david martin reports from the field, plus we will have plenty of political analysis, all coming up on face the nation. Dickerson good morning and welcome to face the nation, i am john dickerson. Once again, we have a lot to get to today and we will begin with former cia director john brennan who in addition to serving as Homeland Security advisor to President Trump spent 25 years at the cia under both democratic and republican administrations. Welcome. Lets start with reports that the white house asked the chairman of the two Intelligence Committees to not back reports about an investigation into russian efforts to collude with the Trump Campaign in the election. How does that strike you, what is your reaction to that . I certainly dont know the conversation of the, content of the conversations they had with the media and i have and have tremendous respect for burr who is on the Senate Committee who will be undertaking this investigation. It is important that investigation be done in a bipartisan gags, if it is only one party leading this, it is not going to deliver the results that the American People need and deserve. So i do hope that they are very conscious of the fact that not just the concern about the content of the discussion they might have had with the media but it is appearance of any impropriety, but again i think chairman burr the recognizes his responsibilities and along with vice chairman warner i really hope they pursue this investigation with vigor and with the appropriate amount of bipartisan support it needs. Dickerson the white house also said they talked to fbi director comey about the investigation going on and that comey told them or that the fbi told the white house there is nothing to these stories about russians contacting Trump Administration officials. Do you think you know james comey, director of the fbi, do you think he would have weighed in on what was happening on an ongoing investigation. I have tremendous respect for jim comey, he is competent and has integrity and it is my experience with jim he would not do anything that would in any way compromise the integrity of an o ongoing investigation, thas why anything who claims that the facts are already known in terms of what did or didnt happen between russian officials and u. S. Persons during the election, i think is speaking very prematurely and the white house needs to understand that the interaction with the fbi on criminal investigations is something that really they need to steer clear of, certainly when mifers the white house for four years and then at the cia, any type of engagement between the white house and the fbi about an ongoing criminal investigation was verboten, not just because of the impropriety of doing that but the appearance it would provide to folks on the outside there might be some unwarranted enter ference in such an investigation. Dickerson so there is not regular business, this wouldnt have happened when you were serving the white house never called you and said hey would you help us out here, we need a story and need to talk to some reporters . No, i never did that on behalf of the white house request and the white house never made a request of me in that regard. Particularly if it is an investigation that is by implication deals with some members, individuals who might have been associated with the individuals that are currently residing in the white house. We talked to house intelligence comairm devin nunes last week and i want to get your reaction to this. What we have is we do have people in the last administration, people who are burrowed in, perhaps all throughout the government, who clearly are leaking to the press. Dickerson so what is your reaction to that . We were talking about leads of Sensitive Information from Obama Administration officials. Well, i think it is very unhelpful to make allegations about who is responsible for these leaks and i think we have to distinguish between leaks of classified information, which is against the law, and leaks of discussions that are taking place within the administration. As far as leaks of classified information are concerned, i agree that they are appalling and need to be investigated and need to stop, because the impact on our systems and our capabilities can be grave, so i do think it is important to be able to stop those leaks, but information can be coming from any number of quarters, so whether it be Intelligence Community, what i house, congress, a lot of people have access to this information. Dickerson one of the things that chairman nunes said, particularly respect to michael flynn, National Security advisor, there is nobody anybody would know about phone conversations he had with the Russian Ambassador unless they were at the very highest level of a Previous Administration. And that is why he was pointing to Previous Administration officials. Does that make sense to you . Well, again, until there is an investigation, in terms of who had access to this information, how it might have been shared beyond that the seeming inner circle of individuals i think it is premature to be pointing fingers at anybody, whether in this administration or the Previous Administration who may have been responsible for those leaks. Dickerson i am going to switch to the topic of President Trumps travel ban. There is a report that the department of Homeland Security that intelligence from the Department Says that the travel ban really wont solve the big problem, that these seven countries arent responsible for, and it is not the full report, but do me, give me your sense of how an Administration Assesses this kind of information as it comes in. The president takes it in and does what he wants, does he have to live with it . How the people think about it in this report . Well, the foreign Homeland Security has responsibility for providing the assessments and insight into how best to protect this country from individuals who may be coming from overseas. In concert with the cia and fbi and other elements of the Intelligence Community. I do think that report puts, puts its finger on it that citizenship is not a potential for terrorist action, there is a lot of factors going item, so individuals they have trstled from their country of birth, my experiences, associated with certain elements that lent themselves then to terrorist activities. So the vetting process that needs to go on has to take into account multiple factors, not just countries of origin or where they might be departing from. Dickerson the Trump Administration would say these countries were targeted by the Obama Administration in terms of their being the birthplace of terrorism, some of them are on the terrorist watch list, why not be vigilant about them . Oh we need to be vigilant about them but that doesnt mean there needs to be a temporary ban on those individuals arriving from the country, so in the wj Obama Administration, yes in the Obama Administration we looked kaiflg any at what was going on in those countries and took steps to protect this country from individuals arriving from those chores that mamay have nefarious purposes. If you were advising the president right now about the threats to the homeland, where would you put the travel ban in in the rank order and if it is not number one, what would you put ahead of it . I dont think the travel ban is going to help in any significant way. What they need to do is again take into account all of the various means that terrorist groups use to try to carry out attacks here in the homeland and the cyber domain is the area where most of the terrorist groups now are operating and in a very freewheeling fashion, and so the efforts to inintroduce cite and to encourage and recruit via the cyber domain is something that the fbi and the intelligence agencies are very, very vigilant about. So it may sound good to have a ban against individuals coming from certain countries but you really need to take a look at what is truly going to mitigate the nature and the scope of the terrorist threat that we face. Dickerson is there a down side to the ban . Well, yes. I think first of all it send a very bad message to individuals that are being singled out because of their nationality a, it also gives a clear impression that there is an effort on the part of this administration to focus on muslims themselves, so i think it is subject to very, y various interpretation that do not help our National Security. Dickerson you know, you are here speaking to us on the record but i should ask you, have you talked to anybody in the press since leaving . No, i have not, you are the first one to talk on the press. Dickerson on the record or that is correct a. Dickerson lets go to north korea. Which is why people point fingers about leak, i certainly welcome that investigation to stop those leaks, because they should be, shouldnt be taking place and anybody who is responsible for that is dead wrong, anybody who thinks i am responsible it is dead wrong. How many things would keep you up as night. In things, what do we need to do in order to prevent proliferators from achieving their aims, from terrorist groups, cyber, but also russia, whether it might be looking at in terms of their next area for exploitation, what they did across the board on elections, so one of the things that the Intelligence Community and Law Enforcement agencies have to do now is to deal with simultaneous issues with great consequence to our National Security. Dickerson should russia be monitored . What are they going to do next or confronted . I think it has to be a little bit of both. Certainly the russians have an agenda when it comes to trying to exert their influence in different parts of the world. We see what they did in the ukraine. We see what they did in syria and also here in our elections, they look at the european landscape also as ripe for exploitation in terms of trying to have individuals who are sympathetic to russias agenda be elected. Dickerson President Trump is very focused on north korea, we have had this reports of the nerve gas was used to kill the half brother of the leader of north korea, i cant what does that say to you about that assassination attempt and where north korea is . So a couple of things. One is that kim jongun continues to use lethal means to eliminate either opponents of his regime internally or those who he just disagrees with. There has been brutal repression inside north korea under kim jonguns leadership and killed many, many individuals, and some of the most brutal means possible. The use of this vx against his half brother certainly are all indicators point to north korean responsibility for this. It is another example of his use of these types of toxins to carry out his objectives. Dickerson the new National Security advisor reportedly said the phrase radical islamic terrorism should be avoided, President Trump has said if you dont use that term you dont adequately understand the nature of the threat out there. Where do you come down on that. General mcmaster has a stellar reputation not just as a military officer and leader but as a very thoughtful National Security specialist and i think he recognizes that these Bumper Sticker terms like radical islam being responsible for terrorism does more harm than good. You need to be precise and it is one of the things i think the president needs to realize is when he uses language it has resonance around the world, not just with his con stitchient base here in the United States. So being much more disciplined in terms of the language that we use i think is something that is going to help our nash security and genera general mcmaster in s early days saying that is unhelpful phrase gives me even greater confidence that he is going to do what he needs to do as National Security advisor and hopefully be able to sway the thoughts and ideas and inclinations of some of the individuals who work with him at the white house complex. Dickerson all right, thank you so much for being with us, we are out of time and we will be back in a minute with our focus group. They have some surprising views on what is going on in this country. Stay with us. Consider an aarp Medicare SupplementInsurance Plan insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. Like any of these types of plans, it could help you with outofpocket medical costs. Call now and request your free decision guide and explore the range of aarp Medicare Supplement plans. Start gathering the information you need. To roll into sixtyfive with confidence. Dickerson as we continue our efforts to bring viewers a sense of what is going on across america and hear from voices not just in washington, we traveled to richmond, virginia to talk to a group at the Old City Hall about what was on their mind politically after one month of the Trump Administration. We hear the phrase that describes our country right now, what is the phrase . Turmoil. Right now, if you lose, you dont lose, you just fight, fight, fight. You fuss, fuss, fuss. Obstruction is now a technique. Failure is something to promote if it is on the other guys. How about you . I feel like everybody is sitting on pins and needles, it is like waiting. I feel like we have to be hopeful. Charles, what about you . Volatility, turmoil and chaos. What about you . Frustration. A lot of people are afraid. Dickerson you say a lot of people are afraid . Yes. They dont know what is going to to happen. Aaron how about you. The word is change, we have a president that clearly does things in a different way and surrounded by a team that does things in a different way. They are going about keeping their campaign promises, but they communicate them in a different way. Angry. I think a lot of people are angry, a lot of people based their vote on their anger, and now a lot of people are fighting back with their anger against the vote for donald trump, so anger. I would say scary because people really dont know what to expect. Promises were made and they dont know if they are going to be kept or, you know, what is going to happen. So i think people are just kind of afraid, scared and afraid right now. There is mass confusion. I think they promised us that they are going to train the swamp, but instead i think we are getting more of the same. Dickerson george, what impressed you most about the president . The fact that he won. Dickerson since becoming president the energy that the man has. He seems relentless. I mean day after day it is always something and he has a way, yes, and i dont like all of the comments he makes on twitter, but you but he is always the news. 24 7. Because he absorbs all of the air out of the room. Dickerson if you had to give the president advice, what advice would you give him . To think before you speak. Or tweet. Dickerson sheila, when the president wakes up every morning, what do you think he is thinking about . Himself. He reminds me of, probably some of the women here remember this type from middle school on, girls who did nothing but think about their wedding. They didnt even have a groom in mind, but they were planning that, and all of the energy went into that wedding, to the pomp, and the ceremony, and actually being married and making it work was so far to the back that they just kept coming back to wanting to redo the wedding, wanting to entertain lavishly, and that type of thing and still werent thinking about being married, and he is not thinking about being president. Dickerson for those of you who voted for donald trump, what was the promise of his presidency . Well his drain the swamp, in which i took to mean the control of the regulations that have abounded under the Previous Administration. Dickerson david, what gives you hope . Hope is we will change president s somewhere down the line. I like some of what trump wants to do and some of what he wants to do scares me to death. Dickerson what do you like . Immigration. Lets secure the borders. Lets reign in all of the people coming into the country without documents, the simple fact they are here makes them a criminal, and i would ask people, do you lock your doors at night . Or do you just open the door and say here is a sign, come on in, take my food, watch my tv, oh, yeah, i will buy you dinner, here are some groceries, nobody wants a country that does that. We lock our doors for various reasons. We need to lock the border. Let the people come in legally, you know, the country is built on immigrants but do it properly. Dickerson gina what is the number one issue with you . Well, as a businessman i thought he would be able to control the finances better. I watched the apprentice. It was one of my favorite shows, and i liked him on the show. I liked his position, his energy. I didnt vote for him