Quadriga and were going to talk about it with three people who watch u. S. Politics very closey. Its a pleasure to welcome crist jana maya, a correspondent be with the morning show and former by reported for a. I. D. From washington. She says we look at with shock and no awe at a u. S. Campaign at a man who be would be fired from any school for his hateful, racist remarks writes our next guest about politics. She says one of the Biggest Challenges for Hillary Clinton see that her s to conventional qualities as a candidate matter more than Donald Trumps populism. And Erik Kirschbaum now works as a correspondent for the Los Angeles Times in berlin. He says there is a lot of frustration with the government n europe and it the moon i fests itself in support for rightwing candidates like pen. But its hard to imagine americans electing anyone by clinton. Can we really be sure its going to be clinton against trump when it comes to the general election . Or i iit possiblble there could be more surpriseses in store at the parties conventions in july . After all the surprises, it looks like trump and clinton. Clinton got enough delegates with the wins in california the other day. It would take a miracle to prevent trump from being the nominee so it looks like trump and clinton in november. Even though trump is alienating the Republican Party bosses and elights, the people he had tried to curry favor with recently, like speaker paul ryan, who now says trumps remark is racist but he will vovote for him. It is remarkable that trump is uniting, needs to be uniting his party around him but he seems to be cuzzing more division. Went a bit too far, calling a judge a mexican and it raises a lot of ghosts thee republicans dont need right now. It was a total own goal for trump and not going to do him any good. Hillary clinton could would be the first woman president of the u. S. , shes the first female nominee for president. She was celebrating that very openly this week. But not all that Many Americans are perhaps are not as many as one might expect are celebrating with her and supporting her. Why is that . Good question. Its probably because she is roareded as the person who stands for establishment and that seems to be a bad thing in america, obviously because so many people seem to be unhappy with the established politics. It falls back on her. She has been in power for a long time and has the experience trump doesnt have and that doesnt seem to be to her advantage, which is kind of interesting to watch. On the other hand, many women obviously and many immigrants are really behind her and think shes got a very good chance to actually succeed even though she comes across add maybe a little bit maybe not as warm as people would like her to be. But then again you dont go drinking beer and coffee with a candidate, right . It surprised me last time i was in new york how unenthusiastic people are about hirg Hillary Clinton. There is no real buzz for hillary right now. But do you think that would would could change now that the general election phase is starting . And can she also win over the young people who supported Bernie Sanders . I think thats absolutely crucial. Obviously theyre trying to match sanders in behind her. If he would more or less give up and say all right, im going to support her and if he can get . Of his issues across, for example, education is very important for young people and doesnt come across as the old, grumpy old man not able to give up, if all that happens, i think there could be more enthusiasm for hirg Hillary Clinton because its been divided between obviously the young people and older people. Im not optimistic, actually. You mentioned people in america who feel that the American Dream is dead in that Opening Statement that i quoted. Of course, those are the people to whom both sanders and trump have been appealing. Trump, of course, is seen by many of those as an outsider with a fresh, authentic point of view and as a selfmade man but in fact hes neither. No, hes not but hes very smart and appealing to people i think that have a lot of frustration and anger, frusustrated with the politicia in washington, d. C. He appeals to people that are older, male, white, that had the American Dream in their mind that they can have one job in their lifetime, buy a house, buy a car, support the children through college and then thats it but that life if america is over. There is no longer the American Dream they wish for and donald trump just stands there and says w well, if you vote e for im bringing back the American Dream, bricking back the 1980s, which is not going to happen but hes smart in appealing to that demographic which i think may not be there in future elections, so this is his shot and hes doing well. In germany, france, elsewhere, disenfranchised people are going for the eatsy answers to very complicated political quesestions and i thi its obviously very easy to fofollow a person who comes across like that. When you dont realize what thworld is really all about he also says youre afraid and if y you vote for me, all your fears are going to go away. I think the American Society has bececome a very afraid society. Afraid of terror, different people, their nextdoor neighbor, africanamericans. Theres a lot of fear in the society i believe. I talk to a lot of people there and theyre all afraid of so manyny things. He stands there and says im not afraid of anything or anyone and if you vote for me im going to be the strong person in the white house. But heres something very puzzling. Many are disillusioned with the politicians in washington. They say they are lying, promisising things and dont deliver. The fact is trump has promised lots of things he dididnt dedeliver. Started a school for real estate provokers where there has been clear fraud and that has beenen reported upon, canne yet nothing seems to stick. Hits supporters stick with him despite the fact that he has been shown to be telling lies. How can that be . Yeah, im surprise bid that as well, but i think it has been reported but i dont know if the people have heard him, necessssarily, are reading the big piece in the New York Times or l. A. Times about what he has done wrong. Then there are out lets like fox news that are just giving hihim air time and air time and thats part of the problem is the media thats thats been not very good on reporting on what he has promised and did not do. Whwhat i think w we have to see is a very much more critical civil land scay. A Civil Society like america cannot vote for trump if they want too uphold the established ekenny wallace for minute orkts for gay people. All the issues are so important and so much on the line and we need to stand up and address that more and make people hear that. One things for sure, the media has been keen to report some of the more outrageous statements that have been made by donald trump. Lets take a look. 4ir8 clinton has to go to Hillary Clinton has to go to jail. All right . She has to go to jail. I will leave it be to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants. Hillary clinton is a weak person. Totally scripted. He is tempt temper aamerican leaguely unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility. Instead of saying crooked hillary, a very accurate description, wonder if i could say lyin . We all know the tools donald trump brings to the table. Bragging. Mocking, composing nasty tweets the she does not look president ial, that i can tell you. She doesnt. This is not a president. I believe the person the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. So, Hillary Clinton there talked about the tools that donald trump groings the table. He has made it clear that among those tools will be vicious, vicious attacks. He is not afraid to hit employee the belt. He has done it plenty in the past. He has indicated hes perfectly happen i for example, to make bill clintons past affairs grist for his mill. Wont Hillary Clinton be thold a different standard in can she really fight with the same kind of weapons . Or will she be in a disadvantage in this kind of, what could become really a mud wrestling match . If it stays nasty like this, she will havave a problem but shes already shown shes going to take on trump where hes most weak. E gavavey a gave a speech about Foreign Policy that week that went t down really well. Dont forget, donald trump has a lot of people on his side. There say much higher turnout and we see m many of these peop who never voted before are voting. Maybe it was betteter when turnout was lower. But trump has pulled it off. But it could hurt him in the general election because hees got it win these middle of the road voters and hes behind in so many states that it looks now like an easy win for the democrats unless trump gains 10 Percentage Points acrososs the board. Clinton, as erik just pointed out. Did make quite a strong speech last week. Clearly she had been doing some thinking, training and also undoubtedly had a lot of consultants at her side telling her or working with her on how to address the kind of polemics trump has been throwing her way. Shes a very tough politician. Do you think that will stand her in good stead . Will she stand up and put up with or even trounce these attacks . Im sure she will. She can keep her calm. Whereas he goes out of his way to be nasty and horrible, she is just composed. She doesnt use bad language like he does. There is one personality on the one side which you really think is very easy to attack, and on the other side there is his inexperience in political matters so she has a lot of things to go for. What when you are talking about the middle of the road voter, the middle people, they dont like that when their children hear nasty language on television. Im totally surprised how the americans can put up with that. If you were used to that language in your normal circumstances, your normal life, you would not go to a normal school. People would certainly expel you and the parents would be called. Its kind of old with trump. It was entertaining for a while, exciting and ditch but its going to get old and i think trump is going to have a hard time with this crazy, profane, vulgar message. On the other hand, trump has had a very decided advantage in media coverage. Every nasty tweet that he sends out gets picked up by the Mainstream Media and then retweeted and discussed and in fact the president of cbs went so far as to say trump is bad for the country but its very, very good for cbs. Theyve had revenues like never before thanks to all the interest in donald trump. What do media themselves need to be doing Going Forward to in fact create a level Playing Field here . Ore or wont there be one . I think its difficult because within the on the one haund want to report on everything that is going on. That is your job as a journalist. But i think what the Huffington Post did, beneath every article on donald trump they say donald trump has been making racist remarks and has been unpolite. Hey state very clearly where their editorial opinion is. I think you have to be more rational in covering this election. Its a very nasty race and going to be a lotot morore nast until november. I think its going to be very interesting to see the First National debate where hillary and trump will be up on the one stage for the first time debating the issues. Donald trump cannot be as vulgar as he has been so i think that is going to be very interesting. You dont think hell talk. Side size of Hillary Clintons hands . We hope he doesnt but you can never be sure about him. He can pull off anything, apparently. Bubut sometimes it might help t just take a ststep backk before you retweet and facebook something just for the attention ond and the audience reach. But isnt america itself, brought that onto itself . Having elections as a big show that is run on the media as a show event almost with all that money involved and everybody has to go out of their way to attract attention . So in a way, you have got a person who delivers the big show, you know . There he is. And honestly, theyre cynical enough to say ok, the race is great. Lets go for it. Thats one side perhaps of how the u. S. Brought this on is itself. Another side might be polarization, both in the sense of in washington, that meant that in eight years all thehe parties did in congress was fight with each other, then polarization of the media, meaning even if there is critical reporting, a lot of those Trump Supporters maybe arent going see it. The milll enyals get their information from different platforms, facebook and twitter and things like that. Its a total different race this time and there is this polarization this time. I think sanders would have a very difficult time if he were to become. , he would have a very Hostile Congress but Hillary Clinton can work with a congress dominated by the republicans and at least get something accomplished. Its a crazy election. But the democrats have won every election except 2004 all the way back to 1988. The republicans only won one. So the Electoral College advantage the democrats have is pretty enormous. Its something that people who are worried about trump should think about. Its not like one big election, like in germany its 50 individual elections. The democrats have a pretty good heat start at this point. I totally agree but its easy to say the democrats are going to make it. I think its so dangerous that donald trump came that close or might cocome that close to the white house and we dont know what happens until november. If there is one major tag in europe or even america, dont want to think about that but just imagine one big terrorist attack. I think that would give him a major advantage. Lets briefly think about what a donald trump in the white house might mean in terms of Foreign Policy. Of course Hillary Clintons presumptive advantage is that she had advantage experience as secretary of state but donald trump did hold what he called a major Foreign Policy address recently and more or less outlined where he would go, although it left many people somewhat in doubt. Lets take a closer look. North Korean Leader kim jungun, shunned by the International Community because of his Nuclear Development program but donald trump says hed be prepared to talk to Kim North Korea recently praised trump as a wise plifplgts trump also says hed like to have good relations with moscow and beijing. We desire to live peacefully and in friendship with russia and china. We have serious differences with these two nations and must regard them with open buys but we are not bound to be adversaries. The statement. He praises dictators and picks fights with our friend. Perhaps trump can use these now male bonding efforts to resolve longstanding international disputes. So is he a hawk . I dont know if he knows. Obviously he has no experience. What he said is that in nato have a speaking role, the other countries to would to pay more. Its hard to tell if anything is thought through or not or if it is coming from its a worrying thought that he should be the onene who actually holds the button the yes, as Hillary Clinton has said, he would have the codes, the nuclear codes. According to trump in that major Foreign Policy address i mentioned he has written a book the artd of the deal and he says we should be we need to take a mar transactional approach to things. Is that a Clear Strategy that you think would bring gains visavis say china or russia . No. Its a dangerous strategy. It might work for a businessman but as a nation, its scary. Hes already upset the Financial Markets by talking about renegotiating u. S. Treasuries and things like that. Its been the most reliable place to put money for centuries. He threatened to mess that up with jut a few unconsidered words. He doesnt have an idea and its a scary prosspektd for a lot of americas allies. Lets talk about the u. S. And europe Going Forward. Both candidates have actually said that they would perhaps expect more from europe at least in regard to contributions to nato, to supporting defense within, say, Eastern Europe and so on. Europe on the other hand is also looking to the u. S. With a mix of resentment of u. S. Power and at the same time wishing somebody would fix the middle east. Would either of these candidates do things significantly differently . Would either either of them bring the u. S. Back to be the role of world policeman . Well, with trump, i agree, you just cannot tell what hes going to do. He doesnt seem to have smart survivors. Advisors. We dont know who he would pick as the Vice President. Hillary, on ththe other hand, i ressh very reliable. She would be a very reliable partner for europe and the ununion. Its always like a give and take and i think if the u. S. Says, well, europe has to give more in regard to nato, you can question whether the u. S. Is doing enough regarding the refugee crisis. So i think there is going to be a lot of talk and negotiations but with Hillary Clinton its going to be more reliable. Trumpt trumps call for europe to spend 2 of g.