And he picked roy up by the neck and whipped him like a rag doll off the stage. And, um. You know, they tried to put a spin on it that the tiger was trying to help roy, and that is not true. I mean. I mean, and. They should have just said, thats who these animals are. This is what were dedealing with here. What about the Inhumane Treatment of the animals by trainers . I know that was a concern of yours early on. Is that still an issue here in hollywood . Well, any time youre making an animal do things that they are not interested in or couldnt care less about or being told what to do these are independent beings. This is not what they should be doing. I mean, the fact that. And in the circuses, how awful is that, the tricks that they are made to do and the treatment that they have to take in order to do these stupid tricks that they would never do . I mean, you know, were all we all have a fear of fire, yet they have lions and tigers jumping through hoops of fire. What about conservation . What do you want our viewers to know about conservation . I want people to know that no wild animal should be confined. No, none. Leave them to their indigenous areas, and fine. You know, and. And now, you know, when you hear about the biggame hunters, theyre psychopaths as well, you know. I say a lot of things that i really can get in all kinds of trouble with. Dont get me going there. Youre gonna get me in trouble. Ha ha ha but, you know, they. They have literally almost wiped out our elephant, our lion, tiger off the face of the world out in the wild. And they plan these events, you know. I mean, they even dress for them, and they plan which rifle theyre going to use, and its a. Its so sick. I mean, when you think of looking at a beautiful the lightest elephant in the world was killed by this psychopath. And when you think of how do you look that animal in the eye and. Take it out . How do you do that . What about hope . I mean, having gone through this and watched, i know its got to be frustrating for you. But, i mean, obviously what keeps you going, i would think, is the hope, the hope that you get the legislation passed, the hope that you can change things. Is it just speaking out . Do you think thats enough . I mean, what gets you up in the morning . All of these things. All of these things. And. Im. Im hoping. I mean, thats all i can do at this point. Weve. Were constantly asking people to write letters. And i have letters on our website, you know, that you can copy or, you know, put together, so you dont have to reinvent the wheel, and write to your congressmen and your senators to stop this insanity. And the more people who do that and get their attention, theyll finally say, gee, maybe wed better Pay Attention to this. Uh. But, um. Im. I know so much about who these animals are and that there is no hope of them being a pet. Let me ask you this question, a multiple choice. Whats scarier lion, tiger, Alfred Hitchcock . Ha ha ha well. You didnt see that one coming, did you . You dont want to answer it, do you . No. I mean. Alfreded hitchck is the least of the problems, believe me. Do you ever get tired of talking about him . Because people always ask you about him. I know that. No, its ok. Its all right. It. I have dichotomous feelings about it, because, you know, it was he who brought me into the motionpicture business, and it was he who gave me a starring role in the birds and in marnie, and it is because of him and that notoriety that i received that i am able to do what im doing now. So im. You know, its a dichotomus kind of thing. I, uh. Unfortunately, the relationshship between hitchcock and me didnt turn out well at all, and i demanded to get t out of the contract, and he said, well, no, you cant because you have your daughter to take care of, and your parents are getting older. And i said, they wouldnt want me to be in a difficult situation. At the end of marnie, im leaving. And he said, well, ill ruin your career. He kept me under contract, paid me my 600 a week. I got 500 for the birds and 600 fori got a raise. Jeez. Wow. Uh. And he became obsessed over me, which is. I think if anyone out in the audience has ever had that situation, they will. They understand how horrible it is. And you have to get out. Well, you did, and heres the interesting thing. Ive seen an interview with you and your daughter, melanie griffith, another famous hollywood actress, and she talked about going and seeing the birds and how you put her hands over her face like this when the guy was getting pecked with the bird. So now im wondering whos gonna put your hands over your face when you go to see your granddaughter in fifty shades of grey. Ha ha ha because now its got to be the reverse, right . Because i read just a few pages of that, and i was fifty shades of red. Its pretty tough stuff. And i think as a grandma, youre probably like, what are you thinking . A moremore. Im a moremore. Thats a very cute segue. Thats very brilliant of you. Ha ha ha no, i would just say that don johnson and i both have the same feelings about this movie, that Dakota Johnson n is in. Um, and, uh. Im. I donnt know whether im gonna be able to see it. I really dont. And again yet, i. I havent read the books. I havent read thehe books, and ththe morning that it was announcedi guess it was announced the night it was a saturday night, because at 9 00 in the morning on a sunday morning, i received a phone call, which dididnt hit me right anywhere on a sunday morning at 9 a. M. To have a phone call, and i picked it up, and he said and it was this slimy voice kind of. Well, tippi, what do you think of your granddaughter being in this movie . And i said, um. I havent read the books. I dont intend on reading them. I love my granddaughter more than my next breath, and i wish the best for her in her life. Click. Nobody ever called me again about how i felt about it. I asked, but not in necessarily a slimy way hopefully. No, you didnt. Well, its been a gift talking to you. Thanks so much. And thanks for the effort youre putting into this, because its really a very important topic, and i cant do much in washington. Im there, but no one listens up there. Yeah, but your listeners can. And then just. It doesnt take long to write that email or that letter that says stop this insanity, not one more. Since the first bill, there have been 13 people kikilled. I think thats the number. Either 13 or 16. And almost a hundred wounded, mauled. Now, senseleless. I mean, this is. Its got to stop. Well, tippi, unfortunately this interview does, too. But thank you so much for coming in. Its been great fun. Come to shambala one day. I will. You got. Im. Definitely. I will now for sure. Ok. Thats it for this week. Join the conversation with us on social media. We are cctv america on twitter, facebook, and youtube. All of tonights interviews can be found online at cctvamerica. Com, and let us know what youd like us to take fullframe next. Email us at fullframe cctvamerica. Com. Until then, im mike walter in los angeles. Well see you next time. Most acclaimed musicians. A man comfortable in his mastery of standard classics, american bluegrass, and traditional chinese tunes. And as well see, a musician who has inspired a new philosophy of education worldwide. Im mike walter in los angeles. Lets take it full frame. He is the son of chinese musicians. His father a violinist, his mother a vocalist. They left china for paris before world war ii. Today, yoyo ma is one of the worlds grgreatest cellilists. In concert from boston to abu dhabi, performing for presididents and prime ministet, inspiring thousands of Young Musicians as well. And theres one other thing. Hes embraced and promoted a philosophy of education. Using the arts to help strike a balance between knowing yourself and being aware of the wider world. He calls it passiondriven learning. A passion that all began for yoyo ma at a very early age. [playing Classical Music] yoyo ma began his time in the spotlight at the age of 5. By 7 years old, he was performing for not one, but two, american president s. [p[playing Classical Music] for more than 50 years, ma has transcended the world of Classical Music to become a mainstay of popular culture. Yo, yoyo ma, my man. Hoo, that is hard to say. [playiying classicical music] his music marking a nations greatest sorrow. [playing Classical Music] [crowd cheering] and its most joyous celebrations. [p[pying classicical music] he is a perfect musician, and a perfect human being. These two things are so evident with him. He is just unique. [playing Classical Music] mas vast contributions to Classical Music are undeniable. More than 75 albums, a trophy shelf that holds 16 grammy awards, and llaborations with some of the worlds greatest musiciansns [playing Classical Music] recognized as one of the worlds greatest musicians, yoyo mas talents know no boundaries of genre or culture. [applause] in 2011, ma was awarded the president ial medal of freedomthe highest civilian honor in the United States. While yoyo could hahave just settleled for beinge worlds greatest cellist, hes said that even greater than his passion for music is his passion for peoplele. And i can testify to this. There are very few people youll meet with just the exuberance and joy that yoyo possesses. And so hes spent much of his life traveling the world, training and mentoring thousands of students, from lebanon and korea to the Iraqi National symphony y orchestra. In his wordsds, when we enlarge our view of the world, we deepen our understanding of our own lives. [playing Classical Music] yoyo mas most important contribution to the world of music may be his ability to cross boundaries and attract new audiences with his innovativeand often improvisationalapproach to classssical music. [applause] he likes to convince people that music can spread out, there, there, and there, and its an ideal mediao communicate. [upbeat music playing] music is immediate, it speaks immediately, you know, it touches your skin, you know, the goose bumps. And no other art does that. [playing Classical Music] mas achievements reach far beyond the concert hall and recording studio. In 1998, he established the silk road projecta performing Arts Nonprofit Organization dedicated to promoting crosscultural dialogue and interdisciplinary collaboration. It brings together musicians, artists, educators, and cultural entrepreneurs. The project takes inspiration from the hisistory of the silk roadthe ancient crosscultltal trade route that once linked china to europe. We have 3 main focus eas. S. The first, as you know, is the arts, music in particular. We perform all around the world, in 3 continents, because were trying to connect the worlds neighborhoods through music. The second is education; we also want to connect different disciplines in e education. [cello playing] we work with sixthgraders, connecting how they learn through their passions rather than through the textbook. And the third area we have is business; where were really trying to create a path for cultural entrepreneurs, and by cultural entrepreneurs i mean artists who are very interesteded in creaeating. Usg theieir art toto help the world. Point to me a whimsical moment. [laughter] good. One of the silk road projects main initiatives is workshops for educators and students focused on passiondriven learning whats keeping you back . An approach to education that depends on art and creativity as teachingand learningtools. [singing indistinctly] when youre working in the arts, whether youre creating a piece of art, or a new piece of music, or even practicing music, youre using a different part ofof your brain ththan when yre studying a topopic. So, we feel that the arts help kids connect, and we can also connect through the different disciplines. So, you might be drumming, but youre also learning math because youre counting, and were finding that kids are learning faster and longer if theres passssion in their leaearning. [playing classssical music] the silk road project also promotes the music of the silk road ensemblean initiative that brings together distinguished performers and composers from more than 20 countries in asia, europe, and the americas. [playing Classical Music] the silk road to me is a big family of people who got together from different parts of the world. And its much morore than just playing music, you know; itss about t sharing, caring, and knowing one e other deepeply enough to be together. We have already been together for more than 15 years. [playing Classical Music] the ensembles members collaborate to create music that often defies categorizationcelebrating the musical traditions of the historic silk road and embracing musical innovation that brings to life the multicultural realities of a globalized society. [playing Classical Music] if you think about it very objectively while i played indian Classical Music, to me Everything Else from the west is western Classical Music, whereas here people call it the Classical Music, right . But if you think about it, do these differences actually exist . To me, no. These are manmade differenceces, you k know. Its just about pulling your instrument out, violin, tabla, viola, pipa, really doesnt matter. As long as youre ready to play music and have fun, the connections are made immediately. [playing Classical Music] whether it be music, passiondriven learning, or crosscultural dialogue, yoyo mas careerand the impact of his work on audiences, students, and fellow musiciansseemsms to prove thatat innovation can n succeed where all else fails. [playing Classical Music] he connects immediately to audiences no matter what he plays. If he plays bach or new music or whatevever; alone or with orchestra, or with pianist or with [indistinct], its always a tototally immediate connection to the hall, to the room. He speaks even to the walls. [playing Classical Music] i think when you see on stage, somebody from china, japan, somebody from iran, israel, and someone from syria on one stage performing in harmony the most beautiful music youve ever heard, its very inspirational and we hope that it might leavave peoplele h a questioncan we do things a different way . [playing Classical Music] i feel the cello in yoyo mas hand is an excuse to make him human. In indian music we have a word called ruhdariruh is soul; and so, when anybody plays music, it touches your soul. To me he had so much ruhdari that it didnt matter which instrument, which form, or what he plalayed, its something that totouches your soul l right awa. [playing Classical Music] and perhaps yoyo mas greatest legacy will be the souls he has yet to touch through his music and cultural diplomacy. [applause] i sat down with yoyo ma not far from his Harvard College classrooms of 40 years ago. We began by tackling mas enthusiasm for music of all kinds. Let me ask you about what music means to you. I mean, its been so much of yoyour life; how d do you descre that connection between you and music . Well, i think i would describe music a as soundas sound that is coded, the sound of your voice, the sound that you remember of your mothehers voice saying, mikey, time for dinner. You know . I mean, that can become music. Its the identification of something and location of something in time and in a certaiain space with a certain type of energygy. Thats what music is. Do you think music crosses cultures more easily than other art forms . I think music is part language. [playing Classical Music]] and its partjust part of the human auditory system. So, i know that were as a species inincredibly v visual ad i think that when we listen to somethingyou know, its part of our 5 senses and thats the part that actually is really interesting about music is that you can receive it consciously as well as subconsciously. Classical music seems to be exploding in asia; especially in chinana. Western audiences ae aging. Budgets are shrinking. Can you talk to me a little bit about what it is you think thats happening with the shift from wesest to east in a sense . Theres a lot of energy coming from the east, righti mean, theres an explosion of energy, of people doing things, thinking things, and trying out things. I think there is always the thrill of the new in any place. So, i think one of the things thats happened infor example, in chinathere are people that have introduced musicClassical Music. Lang lang is a perfect example. Hes a brilliant musician. [playing Classical Music] and because lang lang is such a pied piper, there are millions of people that want to play piano because thats something. So, hes the guidethere are many guidesim giving just one exampleand thats new, because before families did not have pianos and because of the onechild policy, parents would want to do the most they can for ththeir child. And in the u. S. , it may be, we must take our child to soccer, to tennis, and to ballet, and to this, that. So, theres all kinds ofof the activities in china, that seems to be one of the activities that have really taken hold. But thats a burst of energy. The question that i would always ask is whwhats sustainable and what is momentarary. Its great to look at, oh, theres an explosionso, that does not assume that thats going to be the cacase 20 years from nowow. And so, if and in culture,e, i think its always worthwhile to look at the short term as well as the long view. What makes it sustainable . I think what makes anything sustainable is how each Generation Cares about somethining that it receives, ad if you carare that much about i, how then is it transferred from one generation to another. Because my sense ofi dont knknow if youre a pararentye, well, you and i know being parents is that you cant legislate this is what your chilild is going to do and know and everything. Soso, that has o beevery generation has to, in many ways, rediscover what is important, what they care abouout, and so, thats