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MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes October 4, 2013

Channel alhurra. A female suspect traveling in her car with a child tried to breach a white house barrier and later was almost stopped near the capitol. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa get this, get this. I am. I am. [ gunshots ] holy [ bleep ]. [ speaking Foreign Language ] come down, come down. [ speaking Foreign Language ] heres what we know at this hour. At about 2 18 this afternoon, the female suspect identified as miriam kerry of stanford, connecticut, traveling in a black infinity coupe with her 1yearold daughter struck a security barrier surrounding the white house grounds at 15th street and ebe. The barrier was not breached and secret Service Uniformed division tried to stop the vehicle. Police then gave chase for about 1 1 2 miles, all the way to constitution avenue and Second Street near the capitol. The vehicle ran several red lights durning a chase in which it reached speeds of 80 miles an hour. The suspect was ultimately shot and killed after crashing the car outside the Senate Office building, directly outside di derrickson. The child is reportedly in protective custody. In the chaos of the moment, a police car responding to the emergency crashed into a barricade. Oh, my what the [ bleep ] just happened that was supposed to be oh, [ bleep ] Police Presence was massive and instantaneous. Amid a shutdown in which Capitol Police are deemed essential personnel, but will not be paid, until after the shutdown comes to an end. The officer injured in this crash was taken to a hospital in a medevac helicopter. That officer, a 20year veteran of the force, is reportedly in good condition. A second officer, a secret service officer, was also injured during the incident and is also reportedly in good condition. Two sources tell nbc news the female suspect did not have a gun. All the shots reportedly came from Law Enforcement, not the woman in the car, according to a Police Source just briefed by the capitol hill police. The incident placed the capitol in lockdown for about an hour. Both chambers were in session at the time and some lawmakers heard the shots from their position inside the capitol building. Tourists with few options amid a partially closed capitol were caught in the chaos. An incredible scene on a day when washington was already in a state of supreme tension and agitation. Joining me now with the latest is msnbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. And pete, what do we know at this hour about why this took place, what possible motivation there was . Nothing. The best indication we have is from Police Officials and congressional officials who were excuse me briefed by the investigators, who simply say that the woman had a history of what they call mental issues. But the rest is all questions. Why did she come from washington . She worked up in connecticut as a dental hygienist. Why did she come down here. Why did she go to the white house. After her encounter at the white house, thats where the secret service was injured, when she basically hit the secret Service Agent with her car. He was injured, but the injuries are not serious. He received minor injuries, the secret service says. Then she drove up to the capitol, where this happened, where she was stopped and then she backed into the police or the secret service vehicle, and then kept going after they were shooting. Remember, all the while, there is this 1yearold child in the car with her. So what possessed her to do this, what possessed her to do any of these things, to disobey repeated verbal commands to stop, repeated shots fired at her car. We dont know whether, as youre seeing these pictures now, whether she at this point is wounded. We have to assume that she is. These were you saw those shots fired at relatively close range, as she was fleeing. But all the questions, i think, are going to take a while to answer. The police are searching for house in connecticut tonight. Theyre going to talk to neighbors, her employer. She has some relatives in new york city. Theyre talking to them, to try to get a better picture of what happened. It was remarkable to me two things. One is that as the story came out that she was able to make her way, the mile and a half from the white house to the capitol, and second of all, that the well, that part, i think, is not very surprising, because once you get away from the immediate area around the white house, the only thing thats going to prevent you from getting to the capitol is traffic. Right. 2 15 on a day when the capitol is going through a shutdown, a lot of federal employees are not here, the traffic is not heavy as usual. She just was, you know, obviously, she wasnt concerned about her safety at any of these points. Shes blasting through red lights, going at a very high speed. But she does, i mean, i think its telling that i dont know if she knew where she was going. Pennsylvania avenue to the u. S. Capitol is a fairly direct route, from the white house to the base of capitol hill. Whether she knew that she was that was her next destination or not, she headed to the same to the part of the city that had the greatest on the street security. Pete williams from nbc news, thank you so much for your time tonight. You bet. Joining me now is senator Bernie Sanders, independent from vermont. He heard the gunshots on capitol hill today. And senator, describe the scene to me. Well, i was leaving a meeting in the capitol, going back to my office at the dirkson office building. And about halfway there, i heard these police cars driving furiously down constitutional avenue. Their sirens blaring. And then just at that point, i heard four or five gunshots. And, you know, one began then you began to see a whole lot of Police Officers converging on the scene, telling people to get down, get down. Another senator and i ducked behind a car and then we were escorted back into the capitol. It was remarkable to me how efficiently and quickly the Capitol Police seemed to get the situation under control, keep the lockdown, and then they lifted the lockdown, and then, actually, the congress resumed business in the afternoon. No, thats thats absolutely right. A, these guys are very well trained. And they do a good job. Second of all, i think people are on edge. Everybody remembers the two or three weeks ago, we had this terrible shooting in the navy yard. I think 12 people were killed. Theres a lot of tension going on on capitol hill now with the Government Shutdown. So its a tense time. But they know their job and they did it very well. They also, one has to add, are part of the federal workforce that is being affected by the shutdown. Theres a certain irony here today about the fact that amidst the shutdown, these are some of those workers that are being directly affected. Chris, thats a very important point. Here are these guys, putting their lives on the line every day. And youll remember about 15 years ago, two guys got killed when some deranged gunman walked into the capitol. But its true all over the country. We have now over 1 Million People who are working. Theyre protecting the borders. I think theyre in intelligence agencies, theyre doing head start delivering meals to frail, elderly people on dirt roads in vermont. You have all of these folks out there. And right now, they dont know if theyre going to get paid, day dont know when theyre going to get paid. And like everybody else in this country, they have mortgages to pay. They have College Loans to pay, and it is grotesquely unfair that this is happening to them. Theyre under a lot of anxiety, and its just wrong. Senator Bernie Sanders of vermont, always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you. Coming up hes hurt, but he said, im paraphrasing, but not much. He said, i work every day to make sure youre safe. And when he says me, hes not talking about me, hes talking about us. My thoughts are with him for a speedy recovery and again my administration goes to all federal Law Enforcement, but especially our Capitol Police. That was senator harry reid, himself a former u. S. Capitol police officer, i learned that today, talking about his conversation with the officer who was injured today during the incident in washington, d. C. There is a great irony to all of the collective administration and outpouring we saw from Congress Today for these folks and we will talk about it, coming up. Melia. Neil and buzz for teaching us that you cant create the future. By clinging to the past. And with that youre history. Instead of looking behind. Delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions. 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It was a little hard to escape the irony, of course, that these Police Officers were risking their lives to protect the very people like shuster who shut the government down and caused a delay on their paychecks. While Capitol Police are required to provide protection during a shutdown, they dont get paid for their work until lawmakers decide to fund the government, which could be a little while, when they are paid retroactively. That is cold comfort for the Capitol Police officers, the federal government workers, who need to pay their bills right now. As reporter adam snyder sarcastically tweeted, so glad the Capitol Police got that house ovation that they can use to feed their families and pay their mortgages. With me now is gerry connelly. What do you think about watching these men do their duty at the same time that republicans in congress are essentially denying them their paycheck . You know, its awfully hard to put a kind word to it, chris. Hypocrisy comes to mind. Do you have no sense of shame comes to mind. Here are people were applauding, who responded to what could have got been an incident that got way out of control. We really werent sure. And they responded with professionalism under very atypical circumstances. And their thanks is we stand up and applaud them. But of course, meanwhile, theyre not big paid. And many of these capitol hill Police Officers, you know, are frankly of modest means. And to be denied that cash flow is a great hardship for them and their families. Congressman, you represent a district in Northern Virginia that has a lot of federal workers in it. What are you hearing from their constituents about the effects of this shutdown, as people are now starting to say, well, were definitely going to go another two weeks . I think there is a growing sense, chris, of angst that the republican strategy, whats emerging as the republican strategy is, were actually going to play games, but keep the Government Shutdown and get close to the october 17th debt ceiling date and then have strike a bargain, or threaten to strike a bargain. Meanwhile, were hold fraing fel workers, and of course the American People, hostage for the better part of 21 days. There does not seem to be a lot of urgency in the House Republican caucus about the shutdown. In fact, everything youre hearing from the reporting from leadership is, theyre gaining this out for a few weeks. I want to play something, its a clip of stewart varney, on fox business news, talking about federal workers, because theres part of me that thinks, the hardship federal workers are receiving from this is actually a feature, not a bug. Take a listen. I dont think they should get that back pay, frankly, i really dont. Im sick and tired the of a massive, bloated federal bureaucracy living on our backs and taking money out of us, a lot more money than most of us earn in the private sector, then getting a furlough, and then getting their money back at the end of it. Sorry, im not for that. I want to punish these people. Do you think your colleagues on the republican side of the aisle want to punish these people . I sure hope not. What you just played is one of the most meanspirited, selfcentered, exaggerated expositions of what the federal government is and what the workers who work for the federal government do ive ever heard. That is an insult to anyone in Public Service and it certainly insults the American People. Im just astounded. And i would hope thats a minority view on the republican side of the aisle. But it is part of, i mean, part of the broader context of this whole shutdown, of course, is the idea that coming from the right, the federal government is bloated, that it needs to be cut, that it actually is kind of a drain on americans liberty and freedom, and actually maybe people will like having the federal government shut down. Well, i guess theyre betting on that. But this is a cut the government at any price, you know, the ryan budget cut the federal budget by 5 trillion over ten years. 5 trillion with a t. You know, they just cut 40 billion in the s. N. A. P. Program, the food stamp program, cutting cutting 3. 8 Million People off the rolls, half of them children. And now theyre playing this game, and by the way, they got the lower number. And they refused to take yes for an answer. Thank you, congressman gerry connly. Coming up, an incident was caught on camera at the world war ii memorial that tells you everything you need to know. 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He says hes going to keep the government shut down for, quote, as long as it takes. But when it comes to the world war ii memorial, which is part of this as long as it takes shutdown, Randy Neugebauer decided to make a public show of berating a Park Services employee who has absolutely nothing to do with closing the government. How do you look at them and say, how do you deny them access . I dont get that. Its difficult. Well, it should be difficult. It is difficult. Im sorry, sir. Park services should be ashamed of themselves. Im not ashamed. You should. People who arent passing the budget. This woman is doing her job, just like him. A 30year federal veteran. Im out of work. The reason you are is because mr. Reid no, its because the government went do its job and pass a budget. Lets take this somewhere else. 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