yemen. look at this picture, if that doesn't remind you of afghanistan in the '80s, what does? >> people will say, and i think rightly, that the u.s. has -- the u.s. foreign policy has always sort of bent over backwards for the saudis. the key interest is how much of the world's oil supply do they control. when fdr made his pact through the bush administration to now. as someone who covers this region, what is different about this administration's treatment of the saudis versus previous? >> it's totally different. it's not anymore about america's interests. it's not about -- anymore about oil because america itself has sufficient oil and gas now that it can be independent from the middle eastern market. however, our relationship is about donald trump and jared kushner and how much money personally they are getting from mbs. mbs is very clear, his -- as transactional, as thuggish as it can be. he can butcher jamal khashoggi, get advice from jared kushner. he's dictating america's foreign