>> and make it a different world? >> exactly. >> reporter: detective julissa trapp wanted to speak with both men, of course. but cano lawyered up, so she tried gordon, still in the wheelchair after his bike accident. >> hig, steven. >> hi. >> how are you? i knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview i had done. he's cunning, manipulative. >> he didn't have to talk to you? >> he did not have to talk to me. are you cold? do you want a blanket? >> yeah, if you don't mind. >> no, not at all. >> reporter: but detective trapp has a way, as they say. >> you're actually compassionate. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> you were kind to him. you brought him a blanket. >> all righty. >> food. >> yes. we actually shared two meals together. >> it is spicy. >> i told you. i told you to be careful. >> reporter: even so, gordon was