$4 million reportedly in bitcoin to the hackers. this week on a meat processor shutting down meat plants in the u.s. ken dedylanian joins me now on the phone. is this becoming more common? >> you're absolutely right. stats back you up and the officials i have been talking to confirm that these ransomware attacks have become not only more frequent, but more serious and impactful, and the groups the criminal groups behind them, which are generally coming from russia or eastern europe and are operating under the sanctuary of governments, are becoming more emboldened, greater in number, better funded. because every time a company