they paid four point $4 million, reportedly, in bitcoin to the hackers. this week, an attack on the world's largest meat processor. temporarily shutting down nine beef plants here in the u.s.. panda lady is a correspondent covering national security intelligence. his latest report called, here on fire. he joins me now on the food. can, i guess the first question here is, is this perception on my part? or is this becoming more routine? >> no, you're absolutely right. the stats back you up. the officials that i've been talking to confirm that these ransomware attacks have become not only more frequent, but obviously more serious and impactful. and the groups, behind them which are generally coming from russia or eastern europe are operating under a sanctuary of helpful governments. are becoming more emboldened,