humble person. one of the reasons that i loved brian so much was because he was very unassuming. he made me feel very safe. he was a very warm and gentle. a lot of his fellow officers were will tell you, we never dislike brian. brian had a lot of friends. he was very personable and easy to get along with. but he also was kind of quiet. and he was kind of an introvert. like me in some ways. he loved to watch movies. that was something that we love to do. and sometimes i would drag him out shopping, which he hated. but he was a good sport ended with me. anyways [laughs] >> can you tell us others a bit about how you, in realtime, understood what had transpired to brian? i think there's a lot of confusion, i have to say, as reporters covered this the