the committee is satisfied it's genuine. this is not yet another ruse. given his pattern of spending weeks when we were trying to get his voluntary cooperation, stringing us along, then being subpoenaed and coming in and refusing to testify and then on the eve of holding him in contempt, a new claim that he's going to invoke his fifth amendment right. that was among the many desperate claims that he made when he showed up for the deposition. he never suggested at that time he believed what he said would incriminate him. that's a new defense and we don't know yet what to make of it. >> there's indication he would invoke his fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination and on that note, we have another individual who appears to be set to invoke that. that would be john eastman. he's a lawyer and adviser to donald trump spoke at the rally on the morning of january 6th and wrote the coup memos that