but and if the indictments true that they thought they could form in and kickstart and detonator rebellion at the capitol that would lead to a larger war, that is not something that i knew about or something i support, or something i want. >> oh my goodness! your honor, i don't know, they were dressing up, we were had an internet show. i have new trump picks to sell. i don't what's going on. a sudden amount of this is just jones covering his own legal exposure. but we can ask why alex jones platform stewart rhodes to allow him to articulate his plan, to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, if you don't think that there are serious about that. she senior legal affairs at politico -- i'm joined by my to guess here. i'll start with, you i was looking at your coverage in realtime of this virtual court situation.