under sworn pleadings, and he didn't know what brian value was. and in this he has a long disposition about brand value. well you clearly do know what's brian value, is contradicting directly. my understanding, a lot of the pleadings he put in, or kind of like i don't know anything, was sort of the theme here. which is belied by the very lengthy statement tanya that he released getting into some of the weeds of the businesses evaluation. >> correct, and that's going to be a defense of his both and the attorney general investigation, and the district attorney investigation, is that you know he is at the top of this organization. he doesn't know, he's not familiar, other people do this, he hires the best accountants, the best lawyers. and here he is in a publicly filed statement saying actually i do know. which then people thought he didn't understand the value of the brand, here he is saying it in his four-page statement over