privilege. now, again, he's trying to kind of throw himself under the protection of former president trump's claim of executive privilege. so let's look at that. the biden white house has looked at this. there was a very specific letter that came out, and the white house council said no way and no how when it comes to these documents and when it comes to this information because and i think this was really the money line which also would apply to steve bannon's testimony. when you're trying to subvert the constitution you don't get to use the constitution as protection. and of course i'm paraphrasing here, but that fundamentally is why i think these are two weak claims of executive privilege. >> i want to talk to you a bit on the pressure being applied here. trump's former white house chief of staff mark meadows and other aides, they're actually cooperating with the committee and as i mentioned bannon is