liberty. >> would you specifically tell me specifically state what the right is? is it specifically abortion? is it liberty? is it autonomy? is it privacy. >> the right is grounded in the 14th amendment, but i think there's an interest in autonomy, liberty, and equality. i think it is the right to abortion, the right of a woman to be able to control without the state forcing to carry that baby to term. >> i understand you're talking about abortion here, but what is confusing is that we -- if we were talking about the second amendment, the 4th amendment, i know what we're talking about. because it's written.