country, 4 million of them already refugees. >> in kharkiv, richard, thank you. please be safe, sir. thank you, thank you. let's talk about these troop movements here. again, to richard's point, the russians initially said they were, you know, drawing back now today, the reports that they're not nato secretary-general says they're just repositioning. clint, what do we know based on the troop movements that you've been following so closely about what the russians are doing right now. >> i think the nato commander is exactly right. they are repositioning. i think any time you hear russian negotiators weigh in, they want to talk or thinking about peace, they're often just stalling to keep the ukrainian military from advancing further on them. they are moving troops around, that's for sure. what we've seen so far is they're pulling back towards