stood there, lieutenant tavizon approached them and seemed to say it looked like she'd committed suicide. >> lieutenant tavizon mentioned to you how many times, three times? >> three times in that evening. he brought up suicide and -- and i said she wasn't suicidal. >> as if, what, he's trying to persuade you that that's what it was? >> yes. >> it wasn't a suggestion that was made. it was a question that was asked. >> but sitting here, all this time later, lieutenant tavizon told us they must have misunderstood him. you heard that they eventually decided that what you had done was suggest that it was suicide. >> well, yeah. they were -- they were upset because i asked the question. >> did you think so at the time? >> no. >> so what did the lieutenant think? >> a young lady just doesn't die, you know, just out of the blue. we consider it a homicide till we're proven otherwise. >> sure. of course, there was that other matter that needed proving. who did this?