what did you do about pompeo? do you bring them in to testify? >> do you want them in? wouldn't you rather they just -- just hold them in contempt? once they get in there the right wing crowd on the republican side will spend half the time on the hearings doing the crazy stuff they did with lewandowski. you want that? >> i can't imagine anybody would want to put giuliani on a witness table at a house hearing. >> i would like that. >> you would like it. who would be better off having these guys show up? >> that's a tough one. i think it would come down to the big, explicit moment of whodunit? and that's a roll of the dice. >> look at this we have the attorney generaling secretary of state implicated in this huge, unfolding scandal. when was the last time the major figures in our government -- >> i used the phrase all of the president's men in the beginning. i think we know when it was, richard milhous nixon. thank you, ginger, who knows these things. up next, it's time for the