trump campaign to seize control of that relationship to ukraine, ambassador sondland who's supposed to testify next week. i mean, these are all moves designed to meet the president's sort of political objective, not america's foreign policy objectives. >> i'm curious what you're hearing from the white house. the administration didn't want this testimony to happen today. it happened anyway. were they surprised by what came out? were they shocked this happened? were they bracing for it in some way? what's been the reaction inside the administration? >> as to whether or not the ambassador would show up, and it was an open question apparently to some white house officials, too, who learned of her arrival just as we were, when she showed up on the house side of the u.s. capitol here. the white house put out some talking points that they again mistakenlyicides to democratic offices. and so we were able to read them. and i'll tell you a lot of the talking points all spoke to process. why it is adam schiff they say