don't you see the views of these candidates as relevant and important to voters? >> sure, when it comes to all of that, donald trump will have to have his day in court. see how all the indictments play out. these candidates right now it should really be focusing on what they are about. a lot of folks didn't even. now i'm in the world you are in the world we're talking about all these candidates all the time. the average republican voter had very even seen vivek ramaswamy. they got to see him the first time. maybe they'll item, maybe they didn't. he got it excited. i think he did very well considering he's never stood on a debate stage. i've stood on some debate stages it's a hard thing to do. >> let's focus on ramaswamy. unless you are a political nerd, you might not have heard of him or have been watching him. he had been moving up in the polls. in new hampshire, including in new hampshire as chris christie had been as well. he was very energetic at the debate last week. he also had some things to say