election, an election we're all very concerned about in this country, whether or not it will be fair. what's to stop him from just waiting it out? >> i think, katy, he senses -- he thinks we're weak right now. first of all, because of all th have. it's been really obvious through all the coverage msnbc has had about january 6. also with the withdrawal, he doesn't think we have the guts to stand up to our partners internationally. that may be wrong, but i think that helps his decision in ukraine and the world right now. >> thank you so much. we'll have to have you on to have a further conversation when we are not short on time. coming up, novak djokovic wins his fight about playing in australia, but will he actually