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MSNBC MSNBC Live February 10, 2013

Snowfall has ended, but the cleanup and the digout is going to be going on for some time. Well get back to our weather in just a few moments. Within the next hour, we are expecting to get official word or expecting to get word that the reward for the suspected cop killer is being raised to 1 million. Thats according to the Los Angeles Times. The lapd, the l. A. Mayor and other top officials are scheduled to hold a News Conference soon. Theyll have the latest on the manhunt for chris dorner, the excop whos accused of killing three people, including one Police Officer. The latest image we have of dorner is this, some Surveillance Video taken monday behind an Auto Parts Store near san diego. Meanwhile, the tsa is asking airports to keep a close eye on their aircraft. They believe that dorner may have had some Flight Training during his time in the navy. Nbcs john yang is watching all of the developments for us from los angeles this afternoon. And again, were waiting for that official announcement, john. But what are we hearing in terms of a dollar amount thats going to be offered . Well, as you say, the Los Angeles Times is reporting that its going to be about 1 million. This is a joint fund put up by the city of los angeles, the city of riverside, where a policeman was killed on thursday, and the city of irvine, where two people, the first victims were believed to have been killed a week ago today. This money is coming from government organizations, from police Law Enforcement, from private donors, from corporate donors in the city, these cities. They say theyve raised about half of the 1 million goal, but they sdpoekt gexpect to get tha million to put up for a reward for the information leading to the arrest and capture of dorner. The search is going on. The most visible part of the search up in Big Bear Lake in the San Bernardino mountains. Very snowy up there right now. The San Bernardino sheriff says they have about 25 officers out today supported by a helicopter. Thats about a quarter of the number of officers they had at the beginning of the search. But as theyve sort of whittled down the number of vacant lodges and cabins up there that theyve got to check, theyre shifting the manpower accordingly. And of course, that is the area where they found dorners burnedout pickup truck on thursday. The last time they saw any trace of him, the officials acknowledge they have had no sightings of him since then and no new evidence of where he may be, craig. Quickly, i know the lapd is reopening the investigation into his dismissal from the department. What are they hoping to clear up . A part of that is to try to, they say, chief beck says its to try to reassure the community that they are taking these allegations of racism seriously. Okay. They say they are not trying to appease him, but of course, in his manifesto, he said he wanted his name cleared. Nbcs john yang from burbank for us today, thanks. Well check back with you later in the show as well. We want to get back to our top story now, that storm that left parts of the northeast trapped under some 3 1 2 feet of snow. Earlier today, president obama declared a state of emergency for connecticut, giving the state federal resources for cleanup and recovery. I want to go to ron allen now, who is standing by in hartford, connecticut. Ron, where youre standing in hartford, the lowest snowfall is about 27 inches, but i understand a little farther south in hamden, they got dumped with about 40 inches of snow. How long before local cleanup crews can get those roads clean . Reporter thats a good question and thats the question that people all over this state are asking. Theres just a lot of snow here all over the place. Im going to show you something down the way here. You can see its a long shot, but theres a commuter, a peter pan bus down there thats stuck trying to get off the highway or around this corner. Its been there for a long time, and there was another bus right around this other corner that you couldnt see, but its been there for a long time, but its an example of the kinds of problems people are still having trying to get around. That bus is obviously blocking traffic. But if you pan around the other way, youll see that the roads here are still pretty treacherous. And over to your far right, theres a big dump truck full of snow. You see those all over town. Theyre carting, i guess, tons and tons of snow to a place where theyre dumping it and trying to get rid of it, because what do you do with so many snow . In some places, they had over three feet, the top was about 40 inches, but thats the big problem, trying to get rid of all this snow. The airport is open, so theres some movement. The travel ban has been lifted, but most of the local communities are still urging people to stay at home, so i would expect that schools are not going to open up tomorrow. I would expect that most businesses are still going to be shut down. Theres still a feeling of paralysis here and shutdown, even though the worst of it is over and the conditions are improving somewhat. Whats the word on mass transit at this point there . Reporter well, thats bus down there thats pretty stuck, but theyre not mass transit. But i would think that its going to be probably a limited schedule at best. Okay. Reporter theyre taking this hour by hour into the night, and im sure there will be more notices. We expect the governor here to brief around 6 00 p. M. , and im sure into the evening, these are questions everybody has, can i get to work, can i get to school, what will be open . Im sure through the night theyll be working on that to try to get information out through social media and other means to keep everybody abreast of whats going on. For those of us who live in connecticut, were trying to figure out whether or not the trains will be running. Reporter that was a very personal question. It was. Reporter i forgot you lived in connecticut. Thank you, sir. On tuesday, the president will deliver the first state of the Union Address of his second term in between guns and drones, immigration and unemployment, there is certainly no shortage of topics to talk about. Joining me now, White House Correspondent peter alexander. Pete, how is the president going to be preparing for this speech and what can we expect to hear . Reporter yeah, thats a good question, and having some conversations this afternoon with some president ial advisors and others, its pretty clear that this is going to be a prevalentines day valentine to the middle class of america, focusing very heavily on jobs and the economy, two topics that the president has been criticized by republicans for, in their words, not focusing on sufficiently. Among the elements that we will hear in this speech, according to a Senior Administration officials that i hung up with just minutes ago, there will be focuses on infrastructure, on manufacturing, on education, as well as on Research Like clean energy technology. And earlier this morning on one of the sunday shows, we heard from Stephanie Cutter. She is a former Deputy Campaign manager for the president s reelection campaign. And here is how she described what we should look forward to hearing. The economy will be central to this speech and how we grow the economy so that everybody can participate, you have a fair shorkts pay your fair share, but there are other things that he does lay out. Hell lay out the looming deadline on the sequester, the tough choices that we have to make around it and the consequences if we let this sequester go into effect. And you know, cuts to some pretty critical programs. Reporter that is the issue about sequester, with more than 85 billion, b, billion in automatic acrosstheboard spending cuts set to take effect less than three weeks from now that will be a significant topic. This is the president s last opportunity to push for some compromise on that before they reach that deadline. All right, pete from the white house. Well come back to you later in the show, sir. Thank you. Lets get a reality check now on what the president will say and what he can actually get done. Joining me now, Washington Post political reporter niamalika henderson and resident fellow, bill schneider. Bill, ill start with you. You argue that of the two main issues on the president s plate, immigration and gun control, he has a much better shot at making progress in immigration. Why . Because his party is solidly behind him on immigration and republicans are scared to death of that issue because thats one of the reasons why they did so badly in the election last year. On guns, democrats are split and the republicans are solidly against it. So, on those two issues, id say he stands a much better chance of getting some progress on the immigration issue. But we do think at this particular juncture that he does get something done on gun control, correct . I think he might very well get some progress on background checks, maybe on limits on magazine sales, but very unlikely to see much action on an assault weapons ban. Niamalika, lets talk about immigration for a second. House majority leader eric cantor said this week that he supports children of Illegal Immigrants having a pathway to citizenship, but when asked about it on meet the press this morning, whether or not he supports the dream act specifically, listen to what he had to say. These children were taken, again, due to no fault of their own. It seems to me thats the best place to start. So, you would support the dream act . I have put out a proposal. I dont know what the dream act at this point is. What i say is, weve got a place i think all of us can come together, and that is for the kids. So, it sounds like hes in favor of bipartisanship, but hes also not on board with legislation thats currently being proposed. How will the president reconcile this . Yeah, its hard to figure out what cantor was saying there because it certainly sounds like he is on board with the dream act. But i think the news out of last week, he of course gave that speech last week where he tipped his hand in terms of being seemingly supportive of the dream act. This is good news i think for where the president wants to go. The fact that somebody like eric cantor, who is in some ways obviously in the house and a leader there, the fact that he is willing to talk about this, a pathway to citizenship at least for those children who were brought here illegally. Youll see the president lay out a much more left position on this, saying that the 11 million should have a quicker pathway to citizenship. That is where i think the Sticking Point will be, how quickly these folks who are here illegally, how quickly theyre going to be allowed to a pathway to citizenship, whether or not it will just be green cards, and how border enforcement plays into that. Thats going to be the Sticking Point i think for a lot of republicans. Bill, lets look at this new poll, this new quinnipiac poll. It shows the president with just a 46 job Approval Rating right now. Its down from about 53 back in december, a month after his reelection. What kind of Political Capital does president obama have right now . Well, he has capital coming out of the election because he won and the democrats did very well in the senate and in the house, unexpected as well in the senate, so i think he has some momentum behind him. And look, he does a lot of goodwill. Hes personally very favorable. Personalably, hes one of the most popular president s weve had in years, so i think he has a lot going for him and some steam behind his agenda as he lays it out in his second term. Niamalika, all indications are, again, according to what we just heard from Stephanie Cutter and peter alexander, all indications are that the president s going to spend much of the speech on jobs and the economy this week. As you wrote, eric cantor pivoted from budget issues to Kitchen Table issues, like education and health care and immigration. Are the president and congress, are they shifting focus simultaneously . I think they are. You know, the republicans obviously got routed in 2012, and they feel like they need to figure out how to connect their rhetoric and their conservative philosophy with the way people actually live. Eric cantor called that speech make life work. It sounded ver oprahesque in many ways. So i think the president will talk about the same things eric cantor talked about, health care, immigration, education. But i think the question is, does that mean more spending . The president will call it making investments in infrastructure, but when you talk to republicans, they call that spending. So, were obviously going to have a lot of debates Going Forward around budget issues, around the sequestration, around the continuing resolution. Also, i think everyone obviously wants to talk about how do you jumpstart the economy, but i think theres still quite a big gulp in terms of how to do that. Niamalika henderson of the Washington Post, mike schneider, we enjoyed it so much, well do it again in a few minutes. Thank you. Innocent victims or Collateral Damage . The debate over americas use of drones continues. Up next, general barfy mccafferty will join us to talk about that and more as well. Still ahead what First Lady Michelle Obama has in common with frank ocean. Thats right, and kelly clarkson. Well tell you. Hi. Hi. Im here to pick up some cacti. It should be under stephens. The verizon share everything plan for small business. Get a shareable pool of data. Got enough joshua trees . On up to 25 devices. So you can spend less time. Yea, the golden barrels. Managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. Looks like were going to need to order more agaves. Ah oh ow . 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I never believe its better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. As president obamas choice to head the cia was grilled by congress, the u. S. Military is rebooting its leadership of our lod longest war. Today, general john allen, the top u. S. And nato commander in afghanistan passed the torch to general joseph dumbford. The change of command happens as many question how the United States conducts its National Security policy. I want to bring in retired army general barry mccaffrey. Good to see you. Good to be here. We should note the general is also the former assistant to the chairman of the joint chiefs as well. For many, the public hearings raised the issue of targeted killings. What effect, if any, will all the talk and scrutiny have on u. S. Policy on the ground . Well, i think its a legitimate and helpful debate. You do want oversight by congress, you do want there to be known rules. You want to take into account International Laws of war. However, weve killed almost 3,000 extremists, terrorist threats to the American People with these drones. These are not Law Enforcement operations. They are military and cia operations but general, weve also killed some civilians as well. Well, i think the collateral, socalled Collateral Damage, a terrible term for innocent victims, is much higher when youre using artillery in afghanistan than when youre using a predator or a reaper in a terrorist area. So, theyre extremely carefully controlled. The damage to the innocent population is limited to the extreme. You know, craig, at the end of the day, weve got to be very cautious tying the hands of the president of the United States in Foreign Military operations. But at the same time, dont we also have to figure out a way to balance Civil Liberties . Well, i dont think there are any Civil Liberties engaged when were targeting al qaeda or extremist terrorist operations overseas. Thats probably

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