Republican colleagues trying to scare everybody. Will the gentleman yield . No, i will not yield to this monkey court. Fear, fear, fear. Businesses hate it. Individuals fear it. The worse thing since slavery. Liberals have no idea how cantism there. I do not like green eggs and ham. The new law is more than a website. She doesnt know what she was doing, senator. She was a successful commissioner. I was a successful semi pro baseball player. Wake me up when its all over all this time i was running myself lets prove that washington can solve some problems, the words of the president earlier today, rallies for bipartisan support in a renewed push for comprehensive Immigration Reform. While Congressional Republicans turn their focus from repealing the Affordable Care act to investigating it, the president instead chose to take a productive approach on a key priority for millions of americans. Its good for our economy. Its good for our national security. Its good for our people and we should do it this year. Everybody wins here if we Work Together to get this done. In fact, if theres a good reason not to pass this common sense reform, i havent heard it. A good reason . Since when have House Republicans needed that . Come on, mr. President. We know better than that. Obviously just because something is smart and fair and good for the economy and fiscally responsible and supported by business and labor and the evangelical community and Many Democrats and many republicans, that does not mean that it will actually get done. This is washington after all. Yes, the town that brought you the republican shutdown spectacular of 2013, the one that brought the gop record low ratings and propelled dysfunctional government to the very top of the list in gallops poll of problems facing the nation, thats apparently not enough for the gop who spent the day grilling contractors in charge of the Affordable Care act website, instead of allowing them to go back to work to fix the problems. Well gavel this hearing, about 9 00, i logged on to health care. Com to enroll my family. Theres the problem, its actually healthcare. Gov. Once again here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody. Will the gentleman yield . No, i will not yield to this monkey court this is not a monkey court. Do whatever you want. Im not yielding. An exercise in prime tolling or not, todays hearing didnt come any closer to fixing the glitches that are proving so exasperating. Kathleen sebelius will testify before congress on october 30th and is touring a core in phoenix, arizona. On a Conference Call today hhs said those phones are literally ringing off the hook, 1. 6 million calls coming in, including 127,000 calls in the 24 hours after the president recommended call centers as an enrollment alternative. Average wait time . Less than one minute. Overall 700,000 applications for coverage under the Affordable Care act have already been submitted. As for the human cry over website malfunctions, the white house today offered a favorite American Sports analogy. This is three years and a cloud of dust every day. But that means moving forward and that means improvements every day that will help americans get the information they need so they can get the insurance they deserve. And then you score a touchdown. Then and only then, mr. Press secretary. Lets get to our panel. With us from washington is my msnbc colleague karen finney, host of disrupt. Here in new york is msnbc political analyst jonathan alter. Karen, i must begin with you. How seriously should we take republican concerns about these website issues when theyve not only voted to repeal the Affordable Care act 42 times, they also shut down the entire federal government in an attempt to defund it . I think you might want to go back to reading cat in the hat in terms of levels of seriousness on this. What a sham. One of the things that needs to happen in this process, in addition to what the president has said, the website is but watt one piece. I was infear ated that the president had to go out on monday and defend this. More importantly, what Health Care Reform means to people in this country torques the constituents of those very same republicans we saw asking questions, and you know half of them have no idea what they were actually asking. They were just reading off a piece of paper. We have to keep in mind the people who will be impacted by reforming health care. Absolutely. John, i dont know if youd call it a monkey court, but is there any doubt that republicans have come back from the shutdown with exactly the same agenda which is to in some way, disrupt, disparage the Affordable Care act . Its a little bit of a different agenda. It is . Yes. Before they had to be up front about repealing or defunding obama care. They cant do that now. That was a huge loser. Now they have to use a slightly more indirect strategy, death by a thousand cuts to try to undermine Public Confidence in obama care and use these glitches which are inexcusable and really kind of make me angry that the government couldnt get their act together better on this. But whatever the background to it, the republicans have this almost like to use jay carneys football analogy, an unforced error, a fumble or an unnecessary interception that the administration threw which the republicans are now going to try to capitalize on. But it does not have longterm consequences. They dont have the votes to actually kill obama care. When Social Security went through in 1935, im always going with these his tore cal analogy, it wasnt until 1942 that people started getting checks. It took them seven years to get the system going. They didnt have computers, so it shouldnt have taken as long this time. There are always these glitches with any major new program. There are no excuses for them, but well get past this and it does help to indicate to people that this is worth enrolling in and they should try again and they will try again. Karen, dont you think that johns point is slightly undermined because a few democrats themselves are now appearing to side with republicans in calling for some kind of delay of the individual mandate . I think as this particular part of the process moves forward, that may be a conversation that has to be had. I dont think its undermined by democrats. I think at this point its joe manchin. Whats most important is they get it working. Jim sheheen has mentioned that possibility. Here is the thing thats really important. I want to see us back on offense. Shame on these republicans for doing this. Shame on them for denying millions of Americans Health care. There should be a longterm political cost. We should bash them with this every single day and remind that what their goal was was to prevent people from having health care. They have no interest in making the system better. They have no interest in solving the problems because hey, guess what, they had several years where they could have been doing that. They want to deny People Health care. Hang on a second, karen . What about the ryan plan . Thats coming in a few months. Thats right, thats right. I forgot. You forgot that . Just in the same way that paul ryan wants to cut pretty much every kid off of food stamps or head start, sure, it will be great. A lot of this is going to come down to whether the obama appointee to fix the mess, a guy named jeff sooints, a very capable guy in the white house, this is all about leadership. Its about cracking heads. Kathleen sebelius didnt get it done. That doesnt mean she has to resign, but they need to bring somebody in who can manage. And sooints has management experience, figure out how to get everybody on the same page and fix the kinks. If they dont, no matter what the republicans or democrats do, it will undermine confidence in obama care if they dont start getting it together. Karen, to your point earlier, is it not the case that even today we have the president of the United States wanting to formulate a constructive approach to resolving the issue of immigration, and what we have is absolute abject silence once again from republicans . Exactly. You heard the pathetic grunt of the speaker yesterday when he was asked by our own staffers, you know, what are you going to do about immigration . Well, we may get something through. Hardly enthusiastic. And despite the fact that they say theyre concerned about the deficit, the reports indicate if we pass the Senate Version of the bill, it would not only infuse millions of dollars into our economy, but it would also actually help reduce the deficit. If you dont care about people, you should look at the numbers. Youve got business community, evangelicals as the president pointed out, wide spectrum of people. I think this again a very telling sign. This will help the Republican Party to be a part of passing this. And yet theyre opposing it. So what does that tell you about where their real motives are. Theyre not all opposing it. Once again, martin, this is a Division Within the gop between the suicide caucus, the people who dont want to pass Immigration Reform and a slitting the throats of those in their own party because no latinos will vote for them. They only got 29 the last time. Then there are Reasonable Republicans in the senate and even at fox news who recognize theyve got to get this bill passed if they want to survive as a Political Party. Jonathan, i fear what we will see here, what weve seen time and time again, those Reasonable Republicans that youre talking about, they shrink to the background while the crazy caucus comes to the for. Showing up a little more now and they showed up when they passed the bill in the senate. We dont have enough time. Turn up earlier next time, mr. Alter. Jonathan alter, karen finney, thank you so much. Great to have you on. You can always catch karen on disrupt with karen finney ever saturday and sunday, 4 00 p. M. Here on msnbc. Coming up, delay tactics. 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How do you help fix the Health Care Exchanges on the one hand while not giving in to the sort of gop demands that shut down the government for 16 days . At least five of these 2014 senators have indicated an interest in delaying the open Enrollment Period which currently ends march 31st. Even some democrats who are not running for reelection next year agree or have proposed something far more extreme. We have to consider delaying the mandate that is the penalty. It should be a transition year for one year. There should be no fines. Lets work through the problems. Weve got a lot of problems. Theyve been identified. I think everybody has recognized them. Lets fix it. January 15, 2014, work out the kinks, lets fix this thing. Joining us is democratic senator ben car den of maryland. Thank you for having me. First let me ask you a very straightforward question. Should the white house take steps to either extend the open Enrollment Period or perhaps as you heard senator joe manchin, dely the individual mandate . Were early in the process. Its way too early to make those types of decisions. Right now the administration has to really concentrate getting the websites operating properly so people can enroll. The policy is the right policy. The e changes are the right thing. Senator, if i might intervene just to get clarity, you would not postpone the individual mandate, you would not extend the period . Its too early in the process to make that type of judgment. Weve got to get the system working, weve got to have an opportunity for people to enroll in a timely way. Its too early to determine if thats in jeopardy or not at this point. We have to concentrate on getting the system working. Thats eminently sensible. Wouldnt the republican calls for delaying the Affordable Care act be more credible if they havent shut down the government and voted 42 times to repeal the law . To say they have any genuine interest in making it work is laughable at best, isnt it . What we would like to see from the republicans is a constructive way to make sure the law works properly. Every strategy they have had to date is to try to repeal the Affordable Care act, not the just the Affordable Care mandate, but letting children stay on insurance policies, getting rid of preexisting conditions, getting rebates when Insurance Companies over charge. Those types of issues they want to repeal. Looking at the republican strategy, its hard to believe that theyre being constructive in what theyre suggesting. Id like then to move on with you if i might to another important issue, and that is immigration, something that the president addressed earlier today. Id like you take a listen. Im not running for office again. I just believe this is the right thing to do and i also believe that good policy is good politics in this instance. If folks are really that consumed with the politics of fixing our broken immigration system, they should take a closer look at the polls because the American People support this. Again, sir, the president said Congress Must pass a reform bill this year, but is that going to happen . Well, they should. We have a barely broken immigration system, and the United States senate, we came together, a strong bipartisan group, putting the nations interests first. I think everybody acknowledges the immigration system needs to be fixed. The senate has passed a bill that has gotten broad support that would help our economy and do whats right for this country as far as policy. Its time, way baft time for the house of representatives to act. Senator ben cardin of maryland, thank you very much. Coming up, how to handle a heckler. Give em hill. 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