this, ginni thomas is a private citizen who has every right to engage in political activity. but she also is equal to everybody else and has no more right to engage in criminal insurrection or coup plotting. and so we're trying to figure out what happened to us on january 6. so to the extent that she entangled herself and embroiled herself in these efforts to actually overturn the presidential election result, then we would be interested in talking to her. if she was not interested in that, and was just expressing her political views, well, then we wouldn't be interested. so i would say we should just follow where the evidence leads us. >> sounds like what you are saying, if there is evidence that she was involved in some of the planning or organizing of any of the rallies, that makes her relevant. if they is essentially a very famous commenter and texter to mark meadows, that that isn't,