Transcripts For MSNBC PoliticsNation 20131017 : vimarsana.co

Transcripts For MSNBC PoliticsNation 20131017

Thanking Government Employees for their hard work and patience. Well have more on that ahead. But he also spoke bluntly to the party that got us into this mess. Thats not a surprise that the American People are completely fed up with washington. At a moment when our economic recovery demands more jobs, more momentum, weve got yet another selfinflicted crisis that set our economy back. And for what . For what . For nothing. Speaker boehner, ted cruz, and the Tea Party Extremists held this country hostage for 16 days and got absolutely nothing in return. Today the president said enough is enough. To all my friends in congress, understand that how business is done in this town has to change. Because weve all got a lot of work to do on behalf of the American People and that includes the hard work of regaining their trust. We come from different parties, but we are americans first. And thats why disagreement cannot mean dysfunction. It cant degenerate into hatred. Hatred. Thats exactly what this was. This was beyond politics or policy. Comparing obama to slavery, calls for impeachment. You dont like a particular policy or a particular president , then argue for our position. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it. But dont break it. Dont break what our predecessors spent over two centuries building. Go out and go out there and win an election. But guess what. Despite record low polling, some on the right already talking about doing this all over again. This drama is to be continued. Joining me now is congressman chaka fattah from pennsylvania and krystal ball. Thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having us, rev. Congressman good to be back, al. Good to have you. Congressman, let me go to you first. Pretty blunt talk from the president today. Let me ask you straight out. Are your colleagues across the aisle finally getting the message . Look, i think they are even though it takes a minute for it to settle in. They had some problem processing the fact that he actually got elected and reelected. So it takes a little while, but i intend to finish my service in the congress in about ten years if my district keeps me there. And i hope we never spend another day in this kind of nonsense. We spent three weeks on nothing. Getting the government open and paying our bills. The president has not spent 1 that the congress hasnt appropriated. To act as if hes the spender, all spending is authorized by the congress. We need to pay our bills. I said on your show last week that the president wasnt going to compromise. He didnt equivocate one inch. I think hes made it clear that Going Forward the congress has to do its work. And their job is to produce a budget. So we had the breakfast meeting this morning for the budget committee. They need to work through their differences in the Senate Budget and house budget. Krystal, the president said exactly that. In fact, he said that he challenged the congress to stop lurching from crisis to crisis. Watch this. Nothing has done more to undermine our economy these past three years than the kind of tactics that create these manufactured crises. Theres no good reason we cant govern responsibly despite our differences. Without lurching from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis. Isnt this really where we have to try and go, krystal, to go from this governing from manufactured crisis to manufactured crisis as the president said to where we get down to governing based on the needs of the American People. Thats exactly right. And is the problem with this congress, i mean, we could call them a donothing congress, but theyre worse than that. Because of the republicans in the house and folks like ted cruz, they are actually destructive. We didnt just have a debate for the past three weeks about nothing. We actually were destroying Economic Growth in this country. I mean, thats the thing is im glad the governments reopened. Im glad the debt ceilings lifted, but were looking at another fight just a couple of months down the road. And so this all comes down to it. It doesnt come down to the president. It doesnt come down to ted cruz. It doesnt even come down to the Tea Party Republicans. It comes down to john boehner. Whap does he want to do . What kind of a speaker does he want to be . Because there are a lot of good folks in the Democratic Party who would love to partner with moderate republicans to actually get things like Immigration Reform and a budget deal passed. John boehner himself could make the decision to go in that direction. But whats troubling, congressman, when you look at the potential republican president ial candidates, look how they voted. They all voted no. That includes congressman paul ryan, senator ted cruz, senator marco rubio, senator rand paul. They voted no. They voted for default. I mean, what does that say about where the party is, the Republican Party . Well, we cant allow them to drive us into becoming a dead beat nation. I want to agree with what krystal said. The best speaker of any house that served was willie brown in california. He created a bipartisan leadership team. Boehner can lead the congress. He cant lead the Tea Party Wing of his party. Hes going to have to leave them aside if he wants to help move our country forward. We need to deal with our education challenges, our other challenges that youve been so involved with, reverend sharpton. What we cant spend our time doing is having these humancreated catastrophes. I was in israel on monday meeting with the president of israel. He was befuddled in a situation where our country shut down. We have such an Important Role to play in the world. We cant afford to go to sleep at the switch. Speaker boehner has to do what hes done yesterday. A majority of republicans voted no. But a majority of the house voted yes. Lets open for business the United States of america. But, krystal, as you referred to about where we are in terms of some republicans, i mentioned earlier some refuse to admit they lost. I mean, gop congresswoman Cynthia Loomis says shes quote, not prepared to suggest this has been a complete loss. Gop congressman john fleming warned, see, were going to do this all over again. And this morning, gop congressman matt sileman said republicans could have won if they were more unified. Listen. The party itself was very divided during this. I think if we were unified in carrying one message, we would have been a lot more successful. Krystal, this is not sounding like all of them have learned a lesson from this. No. And thats whats really frightening here. I mean, they didnt learn a lesson from the 2011 debt ceiling situation. They didnt learn a lesson from losing the election in 2012. And i dont think that the radical elements of the party, the ones who have been essentially driving what the entire Republican Caucus does, i dont think that theyve learned a lesson from this either. In fact, what we really need to look at is the forces that are driving this situation. Because these folks in the house, this is in their political interest to vote for default, to vote for the country to default is in their best interest. And that has not changed. In fact, youre seeing folks coming out and saying on the right like Eric Erickson that they want to see more primary challenges, enforce more purity on the Republican Party in the house. I mean, that is a scary situation. It could get worse before it gets better. Well, im going to have to leave it there. Congressman chaka fattah and krystal ball, thank you for your time tonight. Let me say im glad the government is back open. Im glad the debt limit has been dealt with, but i dont think we can rest until we have gotten past the next deadlines and we must remain focused on moving the agenda of this country ahead. Dont forget to watch krystal on the cycle week days at 3 00 right here on msnbc. Ahead, remember the guy who said president obama bows down to allah and should drop the koran . Well, now hes apologizing. Well, sort of. But not really. And president obama drops the mic on Rush Limbaugh. Well show you how he called out all the right wing blow hards on the radio. Plus pop some popcorn. Now sarah palin is attacking other republicans. And its great news for democrats. Also, whats on your mind . Email me . Friend or foe, i want to know. Reply al is ahead. [ woman ] too weak. Wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. Eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. The end of trial and error has arrived. Try a free sample at eucerinus. Com. 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[ anthony ] i use the explorer card to earn miles in order to go visit my family, which means a lot to me. Its been less than 24 hours since the deal to end the government shutdown. And the far right is in full crackup mode. Sarah palin is hinting that shell primary establishment candidates. House republicans are turning on ted cruz. And business groups are standing by john boehner, but plotting against the tea party. And why are they in such disarray . Because president obama knocked them out with one political punch after another. Let me repeat, i will not negotiate over Congress Responsibility to pay bills its already racked up. You dont negotiate by putting a gun to the other persons head. Or worse yet by putting a gun to the American Peoples head. We cant make extrorgs routine. Do whats right. Open the government and make sure were paying our bills. The tea party wanted this fight and they got one. But the president refused to let them dictate the conversation. Refused to negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States. Refused to give an inch. And its not me saying that, just ask john boehner. We fought the good fight. We did everything we could to get them to the table and to negotiate. They just kept saying no, no, no, no, no. When the right wing was being unreasonable, the president gave them a simple no. And guess what hell say if they try it again. Is this going to happen all over again in a few months . No. So is it going to be easy for the tea party to bounce back from this defeat . Im going to channel the president here. No. Joining me now is congressman allen grayson, democrat of florida. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Congressman, does the president have the tea party on the ropes . I think so. I think that ordinary americans are with the president. Theyre appalled by the tea partys tactics where they come to the president saying if you dont let us steal your car, well burn down your house. Theyre appalled by the way the tea party cheered on the fact we put our credit at risk for a generation to come. And theyre appalled by the enormous expense, the fact that this temporary shutdown ended up costing america 24 billion. Thats almost 100 for every man, woman, and child in this country. Frankly, they want their money back and the tea party out of their lives. At this point the tea party is no more popular than the klan. Some on the right are already threatening those who didnt push the Defund Movement all to the end. Sarah palin wrote on facebook, and im quoting it, rest well tonight for soon we will focus on important house and senate races. Lets start with kentucky. From sea to shining sea we will not give up. Weve only just begun to fight. From sea to shining sea, congressman. What will happen if the right launches a tea Party Primary fights all over the country . I think its already clear to people that the Republican Party is on its way out. The Republican Party is going to go the way of the wigg party. And the reason is simple. They simply wont do anything useful for ordinary people. Whether the issue is jobs or housing or health care or transportation, whatever the issue might be, they got nothing. And its not our fault, but theyve got nothing. They simply want to bring about the end of days as quickly as possible. That is the ultimate Tea Party Republican desire to bring about the end of days. The Republican Partys become the largest suicide pact in history. And i hope they dont take us with them. Now, you say they got nothing. The president says the fever is broken. Has the fever been broken . No. Not yet. The fever will be broken when we vote them out of office and take back the house next november. But in the meantime, we have to protect ourselves. And we have to protect ourselves specifically from their destruction. Their desire for destruction that keeps welling up over and over again. Now, ive introduced the simple twopage bill. Hr213. It funds the government for the rest of the year raises the debt ceiling until after the elections when we can safely deal with these problems. And im hoping people will flock to it. Weve had over 20,000 people come to our website end the lunacy. Com. We want to end the lunacy. They feel the same way the president does. Theyre tired of this. They want their needs met. They Want Congress to listen to them and not get sucked into these artificial crises that drag us lower and lower to the bottom. Rush limbaugh says the problem is there werent enough ted cruzs. Listen to this. Can you imagine in this last fight if we would have had five or ten ted cruzs. Can you imagine the different dynamic . Can you imagine if we had five or ten ted cruzs, wed win a lot of debates. If we had 45 ted cruzs in the senate, wed come close to winning every vote. Clearly the right wing talkers arent giving up. But the poll numbers for the gop is in the tank. Will the leadership of the gop keep listening to these talkers . Listen, boehner has to go. Boehner dragged this country with its tea party allies through the mud for two and a half weeks. Completely unnecessarily. There was no purpose to this whatsoever. The bill we voted on late last night was the same bill we could have voted on two weeks ago, two months ago, two years ago. And the fact is that john boehner has become a short order cook for the far right wing. Would you like some french fries or cheese with that . Thats what he does. He takes whatever they want and he lays it out there as if thats the right thing to do. Another thing about him is for nine times before this week, before this month, he stepped back from the abyss and let democrats do the responsible thing which is to keep the government running and to pass bills that needed to be billed. And this time he did not. And in doing so, he became useless. At this point, dr. Jekyell has become mr. Hyde. He has to go everyone who is willing to cater to the tea party has to go so americans finally get the government they deserve. Congressman alan grayson, thank you for your time. Thank you too. Coming up, what inspired some strong passion today from the president. Its a moment that goes to the heart of the difference between him and the republicans. Plus the citying congressman who compared Hurricane Katrina to obama care. Well tell you who said it and why its part of a disturbing pattern on the right. [ woman 1 ] why do i cook . Because an empty pan is a blank canvas. [ woman 2 ] to share a moment. [ man 1 ] to remember my grandmother. [ woman 3 ] to show my love. [ woman 4 ] because life needs flavor. [ woman 5 ] to travel the World Without leaving home. [ male announcer ] whatever the reason. Whatever the dish. Make it delicious with swanson. [ woman 1 ] thats why i cook. [ babies crying ] surprise your house was built on an ancient burial ground. 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