much in the tradition of forging those alliances that dr. king tried to do with rabbi hassle. so i think it's very, very important that we rekindle that relationship for sure. certainly, there have been tensions over the years. you've witnessed some of those tensions as activists and new york city. your mentor experienced some of those tensions with the jewish community. but i also think that we're at a moment now where when we look at the attacks from the right against blacks and also against jews, that what we know is that racism antisemitism is very much alive, and we have to work together -- >> and islamophobia. >> absolutely. >> we must be able to deal with all of it, including the two-state solution. you cannot be -- you're not antisemitic if you're anti-netanyahu's move, which i am, or you are not anti arab if you're against hamas, which i am.