democratic party, the side of the purity testing or the middle of the road center of the party that wants electability or is that a false choice? >> i think from the point of view of the democratic party, it had better be a false choice. i mean, there has to be, in the final analysis, some sort of synthesis that allows the party to unify around a nominee. and so, you've seen elizabeth warren, for example, explaining that, yes, there's going to be medicare for all and no private insurance, but first, there's going to be something else, first there's going to be some sort of initial step toward it. and i thought that was a clear signal that she is -- that she is mindful that not everybody is going to get onboard with immediately getting rid of the