descendants of the enslaved in britain rise up? and i should make this point for our viewers. the folks who were enslaved in britain, they didn't start out there. you know, they came there to africa, so -- or from africa rather. is it possible that the folks in britain can aid this fight? >> well, just as there were huge numbers of british people in the 18th century who mobilized, who petitioned, who supported politicians in the house of commons and show that they thought what was happening in the caribbean was appalling, was immoral and unchristian, now we're seeing people since the death of george floyd, they're putting huge pressure on major companies that made millions if not billions out of transatlantic slave trade, like lloyds of london, the universities, oxford, glasgow, like the great museums, like thousands of houses and stately homes in london in bristol, in liverpool that denote their