Transcripts For MSNBC The Culture Is Latina 20240706 : vimar

Transcripts For MSNBC The Culture Is Latina 20240706

So much. Gloria and gloria, thats so interesting because i think lot of us have had to, still deal with, that still have t living in both worlds. But dina, you were forced to embrace one identity and hollywood, right i feel like i was living in three worlds there was my world that i grew up in, also Spanish Speaking home, human parents, and the you go out to the world and i speaking english, and im in the bronx, south bronx and then going into this industry as an actress, then nobody recognizes you as eithe one. There was no place for me as a latina, and then as a blac woman, i didnt identify as black woman because for me, it was cultural because of course, i present black, im a black women, i am also cuban when you are here in the unite states and they ask you, put you into a box, and you don fit into the box, culturally i was different. It was not one that identified with, but to work, to survive, it was something that i had to learn. To then learn to be whatever black was. And then feel like i was alienating that other part o myself, that latina self it just kind of became i jed mind trick to keep myself from just being sad all the tim about not being able to full experience and express the entirety of myself i think thats ou superpower though, ultimately. The fact that we had thi discomfort i tell my students, my own people now, that freak out tha you have, that, what did you call it . Jedi gays . My jedi mind trick. Jedi mind trick, okay, th fact that we can be in tha space where its just like, am i enough am i here . And this and by that . Its my spanish good enough . Is my english good enough . Whatever, that is ou superpower it is the fact that we can liv with that. But there is also word for it it was the power to recognize. It Code Switching i just learned that and i feel like i could switch all the time im from the inner city of chicago. I code switch so that intercit stuff to, like, okay, yes, the property, to the hollywood thing and the boxes that the love to put this and i hollywood. You are talking about, is i prevalent in the Latin Community to the fact that our latina dad i not, you know, accepted or it not talked about its interesting for me t hear that because when i loo to media outside of, like, m home for representation, it wa women like you, very few onscreen, which was an African American Television Market where i couldnt piece togethe like, Oh My Goodness Torres is her last game, wow growing up in the bronx, man of us are, you know, black and brown, but i just could not be that, you know i hoped that at some point, we can have, like, up and unpacking of, why is racism so embedded in letting that period, right . The legacy of the caste system if theres a whole history. You are talking about being th human condition, its the huma condition of colonization. Like, it is Colonization Tha still exists in our minds. Right, so the caste system i something that has bee outlawed for centuries now, Bu The Colonizers still listen in our mind and tell us, you have to be lighter skin to be mor beautiful. The thing is, i dont think we realize what we are actually seeing were still seeing that whit people are better than us an we are so inspiring to be white, and it is because of the caste system you are saying theres only one way to be latino, only one way to black, only one way, but, like, white people get to be all sorts of different things. Our identity is very competitive because i am a immigrant, but i have friend who whose families have been i texas since their first they never crossed the border. Im thinking, you know, im a real latina. Identify as a real latina, right . My family came to this country as farmworkers, never went bac to mexico. Did not go back to mexico an where im from in ohio, there no question i am mexican when people see me, i mexican. But when i went to chicago for college, thats actually when got more questions about whether i was mexican enough so, i feel like we have to confront ourselves on thes things as well yes, its very much lik that but then you are talking about the media and how we are in box, so whats changing with that, gloria because, you know, come on gloria this is my sister, this i my sister. I wont do anything without this woman i wont do anything without this woman a lot of people are changing, im blessed to be in a shining the spotlight on m change, but it is a lot of awesome young storytellers tha are out there that just need the opportunity. I mean, for this past year of latino shows is, like ive never seen because when we were startin one day at a time, i remembe going, my gosh, rita its coming and our future president is coming, it was, like, this is the moment weve been waiting for this moment the gloria started that, have to tell you every family was cuban on tv everybody was humid on tv. They wanted cubans afte that, it was great but i really feel like it was an exciting moment to then in promoting my new show wit love, all those shows were gone all the pendulum swung back. I feel like we really have t be so loud in this momen because i think that what is happening the thats beautiful is this cultural correction. People know that stuff has bee bad, now theyre understanding oh, i guess racism still exists i think we were in this, i really think we were like, oh, obamas president , everythin is okay now. Then we realized, no, they kin of got quiet for a second, the they got real loud so, we need to confront that like, this is a real thing lets talk about it, lets extend our arms to one another and say, we do have this thing in common, this thing that w cannot name. We do have it in common. How can we stand with each other and hold each other, uplift each other . Oh my gosh, we can have a exchange of ideas without goin to fisticuffs. I desperately wanted to be mother, but what did that look like for me . Did Somebody Say You need therapy or someone said no, Yo Need Therapy no someone definitely said need their view. 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You just stay away from him because its destroyed families we also need to respect eac others difference of opinion, which were having a bit of tough time doing how do you respect someone difference of opinion, this is a trick question, if sometimes its so really bad you know they are racist antichoice, how can he hav that conversation anymore . How do you think that tha happened i dont know how it happened it happened over this perio of time, where in fact latinos and latinos, we havent been placed attention on, actually. Weve been, from invisible basically, to become a hyper visible. I feel like we are so invisible. We are still invisible. In trump and his campaign, we became hyper visible, for something that was in truth, latinos and Latinas Are Th second largest voting bloc not a voting bloc, but a cohort if latinos and latinos, are no thinking about Democracy Breakfast Lunch and dinner, u. S. Democracy, then our democracy is in trouble. Its in trouble. So this thing of like, how d we understand everybody differences . Its like, weve got a hold on because this is what its gonn look like for the next several decades. All responsibility has to be too the instigating, trying to [speaking spanish] its gonna, get like of people think, well we kind of, we understand latinos, you have n idea if we were truly informs, w would not be voting the wa some of us are voting. Because we are voting agains our own interest and, to everything that mari said, you add this wave of disinformation, that i specifically targeting latinas people always want to blame us, because we dont vote. They yelled on vote. Yes, but lets talk abou gerrymandering lets talk about how those mor and more restrictions to us, t making it easier for us at the ballot box. Theyre like, you dont vote its like, youve never even tried. Theres a story people want to hear, and want to, believ about whether or not were showing up but we show up every day, we show up all the time i different ways the other thing is, we have to take it back, even before we had a conversation about thi information, when only 1 of all philanthropic dollars have been donated in our communities, which includes money in ou Civic Education work and during the pandemic, whe we were holding this nation up it gift to 0. 8 and then we talk about the disinformation, why people dont know, and what is narrative that people ar driving. I just feel like, theres so much gaslighting that happens. All the time and by the way, not jus filipinos. In general two americans i studied psychology an communications, its fascinating to me, social medi because this is a wonderfu thing, and one of the most Dangerous Things that is happening in the world because people do believe that they read, unfortunately thi is across all the communities. I remember being a kid and a cuban household, which you fondly said it is true you cant have a political conversation thats what would happen in mine to me, i do watch these debates on American Television and i was in awe and i would say, oh my gosh. We can have an exchange of ideas without going to fisticuffs and its like, that is gone. I cant have thos conversations, and it makes me sad that i cant have thos conversations, because they ge too heated you cant be a Person O Color in this world, and not b political. Your presence is political being a political im not a political im not saying you are, but to your point about, if your point person of color yo cannot be a political, because being a political is a political stance thats my immediate famil why door, but my mom and stepdad who are old school Puerto Ricans, is just kee your head down to just work. There is another generation though, who in the last severa years, has lived through the murder of george floyd, so tha black lives Matter Movement ha touched them as young people like, the way seeing marci Martin Luther king touch m when i was a little girl when i first came to live i the u. S. , my mom would tell me that the United States i [speaking spanish] , its somebody elses house if someone smells bad in a house, you dont go tell someone. There is a shift between the way my mom usually 90 states and the way i view it. To me, the United States as my house. It belongs to me, and therefor something stinks, i want to go find the source of that, i wan to go throw it out, i want t change it. The shift is, when we wer growing up, when i was growing up, we are taught to b grateful and quiet be grateful and quiet. We can still be grateful, w just dont have to be quiet. Right, and thats the difference were saying were grateful, but heres the story, and wer gonna write it and were gonna have our ow table. Thats right, were gonna roundtable i was gonna say to, we ar talking about how Harmfu Social Media can be. But truthfully, i love the fli of that how Empowering Socia Media has been particularly for millennials and gen z. So you are hopeful, when yo think of you know, i go between a lo sometimes. Im hopeful for the next generation i feel like i personally a jaded by a lot of things, yo know, in society i will say, in this moment, do cling to Hope Malachai can implantation, wanted to bring somethin thats beautiful and simple, and represents my culture of oaxaca people still cant believ that i never wanted to hav children my grandmother, every day, god rest her soul, because she raised me. I love my grandmother so much. Shed say [speaking spanish] every day she would say that t me every day she would say that t me, and i was like, okay and one day when i was 30 sh was like [speaking spanish and im like you are supposed to believe me i dont know, is this something that you felt like you had to have kids its a man wanted to do i think having a teenager has made me check my choices it will pass. It gets better. I was raised by a stay at home mother, who spent most of her life without children as a domestic, and then she came, she raised her children. That was my example. I knew i couldnt be that. That was not the mother i coul be, i wanted to be a mother, i desperately want to be a mother but, what did that look like for me i always knew i wanted to do it, my husband wanted to do it, an i thought i was going to wak up one day and it was gonna be like, im ready. Im ready to be a mother im ready to do it with that face. The day kind of wasn coming, and i got to the point where my husband i are looking at each other and were like are we gonna do this and my friend was super agains children, i think gloria you shouldnt, youre trying T Change The World with your work do you really want more of you in the world and i was like, yes. As like, i really do it pains me the most, i within the latina community, they were so beaten down b hollywood, they kept telling m to be a quiet. I had an accident in 1990 whereas pale relies. And i felt peoples prayers did you know some of your detergents fragrance disappears in the dryer . Downy inwash Scent Boosters survive the washer dryer for freshness that lasts 6 times longer than detergent alone. Release freshness with every touch. With downy inwash Scent Boosters. This Holiday Master your kitchen with wayfair. Release freshness with every touch. Keep it fresh with colorful cookware. Whip up holiday treats with ease. Slice and dice with the best of them. 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The right tool for long lasting flu symptom relief. Hot beats flu. Your weekend, a delicious blend of new york and puerto rico so rich that it makes even thi crowd a little envious look at the flag. I lived here for five lifechanging months it is so good to be back in th city with my favorite new role week happy to be here with you at the cafe this is a bigtime york cafe, all of the newyorican they all came together and built this place. Its just an amazing place for me, because it was one of th First Communities that wer political, but i felt that i belonged so happy to be here with yo today. Im so happy to be here wit you today. Do you remember the first time we met . No. I loved this. I remember i wasnt six feet under, and i was on a restaurant in l. A. Called spanish something spanish cafe they came over and they said this round of drinks has bee sent to you by rosie perez and i was like, what i felt like i had made it. I swear to god, i felt like had made it. Because i was so impresse by your work thank you i was you know that for years and years, it was all about lookin for a Rosie Perez Type The the rosie perez Attack Wa Based on one role i did, which was do the right thing, whic wasnt who i was it was a character i played, and it was a political satire. Other actresses who would b angry at me, never met the before, and i would later find out its like, wow, i went o the addition they want the rosie perez type and you are so different tha rosie perez. And i just fell out, and i said, i am who i am. Im not the characteristic i play and which you should have said was no, we are not a monolith, we are not one thing where does that come from that you just were not scare to say whatever hollywood, im not gonna fit in

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