Thats right. 148,000 jobs were added last month. Why are so many workers getting their hours cut . We are seeing the opposite. Fewer part timers in the work force. Of win the argument. Obama care is indeed a train wreck. The law isnt wonderful. A. Massive premium increases. Hype eigher premiums. Are you kidding me . Mr. Ted cruz knows which side won. There are a couple of truths, i. E. , facts. Who cares. Have you really thought your strategy through . Until some one stand up to him. He will keep going. Congressional republicans have their work cut out for them. Democrats, feeling more about their chances. A lot of angers. Is aimed at republicans. Win the argument with the am scan people. Never tell the truth. The shut down was magnificent. So proud of the republicans. Always say you are wing. Win the argument. Thats my advice, misinformation works. Have you really thought your strategy through . Well the National News has been dominated by stories about problems with the federal website for signing up for Health Insurance. There was good news for the Affordable Care act in ohio today. Ohioans woke up and learned they qualify for medicaid. This after the state approved the expansion of that federal program. Former fox news host and current Ohio RepublicanGovernor John Kasich used an administrative maneuver to accept Affordable Care acts expanded medicaid coverage after he vetoed a bill passed by the Republican Legislature that blocked the expansion of medicaid in ohio. Outraged Tea Party Activists are already threatening to sue governor kasich who has apparently abandoned any hope of running for president in the next round of republican president ial primaries. Awe off the New York Times reports mr. Kasich who initially declared himself an opponent of the Affordable Care act and declined to set up a state Online Health insurance marketplace are gaud all year that his sense of krit chin compassion not to mention cool economic practically, favored extending medicaid to poor adults. Tonight, president obama release a video to volunteers with organizing for action who are helping enroll people in health care coverage. It is important to remember the Affordable Care act is much more than a website. Because the Affordable Care act, millions of young people have been able to stay on their parents plan until they turn 26. Seniors have deeper discounts on prescripti prescription. Mammograms, Birth Control are now free. Thats all happening right now, because of the Affordable Care act. And all ready Many Americans have used the new Health Insurance marketplaces to find affordable coverage. Even as we boost our efforts to get the site working as well as the it is supposed to, we are boosting efforts to make sure folks can been the same call teal insurance plans. The oldfashioned way or over the phone or in person. David axelrod, former Senior Adviser to president obama. And ezra klein of the Washington Post. I want you to listen to something marco rubio said to night to bill oreilly. It is unfair that on the one hand you are telling people if you dont buy insurance next year the irs will come after them with a fine. Unair to say that to them. And then make it so difficult or impossible for them to been the Health Insurance. What the bill would say is that the obama care website has the to be up and functioning for six consecutive months before they can begin to enforce this individual mandate on people. David axelrod should democ t democrats support a bill that ignores the mandate and how long the bill will be in the full function offi functioning of the federal website. Lawrence, i would wait and seep how things work out. Well see whether the fixes we haved materialize. If they do, we have learned quickly, there is a huge demand and interest for the coverage that the exchanges offer. But jay carney and others signaled that obviously everyone is watching this. No one wants to disadvantage people. What we shouldnt dupe iso is at to become fodder for people who want to gut it from the beginning. Unbelievable to hear the crocodile tears, people cant get health care fast enough when they have done everything they can to make sure they cant get it at all. Lets listen to what Mitch Mcconnell said this weekend. Even if you were lucky enough, bob, to get on to sign up you are going to find fewer choices and higher premiums. Ezra klein, fewer choices, higher premiums. The mantra. Of the republicans. An interesting important change. The republican, actual argument about the Affordable Care act, the problems theyre having are not good ones for republicans right . Not a great problem to have that your website is broken. Because the answer is you should fedex your website and go on about your business. That is the problem republicans need the Affordable Care act to have. Premiums have shot up. Choices have convicted. They need their predictions to come true. You know, i have had the money. Been very harsh on the administration for how the launch is rolled out. A technical disaster is the term for it. I have watched, as that gets repeated into the rightwing, rightwing politicians it becomes. I said it is the greatest threat to the economy. Delayed for a year. It is no good for them to have the Affordable Care act broken, you need these doomsday predictions to come true t in this case they havent. We have had the slowest Health Care Spending growth in the last 50 years over three. Premiums came in below what Congressional Budget Office estimated they would be at. When the law passed. In terms of the insurance product. Has to come in abut what or better than expected when the law was signed march 2010. David axelrod. Marco rubio said on oreilly, 300,000 policies have been canceled in florida today. And of course, what theyve dont explain is that those policies do not fit the new requirements that help, what Health Insurance policies must contain under the new law. Theyre inadequate policies being junked in favor of the policies that will be available on the exchanges state, in the states and on the federal exchange. And that that dollar for dollar. Comparing the value of these things. There isnt an increase in cost. True as the ezra said. No one knew there was a hope. But no one knew for sure, what would happen with these rates. Before this began. The competition worked. Insurance companies came in with competitive prices. No doubt. There is this, this, this absolute lie that keeps getting repeated. That everybodys premiums are going up. The fact is most people who are going off to the exchanges are going to get especially with the subsidies, an extraordinarily good deal. Many would not have had health care at all. One interesting thing, senator cruz in your opening piece. One thing that is worth noting if you look at the Washington Post poll this morning. Since senator cruz started talking and talking and talking. Support and, despite all of these problems with the website. Support for the Affordable Care act is actually gone up. It is in a better position today than since the beginning of the discussion. So, when people learn what it is that is being offered, there is great enthusiasm for it. The tax is to fix the website so the great demand can be met. Ezra, an insistence by republicans the Affordable Care act is a job killer, and insurance for full time, not part time employees. Cutting back on full time. Getting parttime workers. Not doing hiring. The cost of hiring is so much higher. Can you referee that one for us. Yeah, there is an issue here. The way that the law streets sort of full time employees of the, of the 50person or more work places. And dont offer insurance is not great. Things we could and shoe duuld. The Obama Administration delayed it. Part of the law that isnt going into effect. Is killing jobs. Over from a year where wem started. Possibly never go. Theyre saying. Im got going to hire somebody who i need now because way off in the distance. The other piece. A small number of firms. You are talking way over 90 of the firms offer Health Insurance. Theyre not dealing with the law at all. Ate very small number. Firms are not paying the fine. And, you had in the opening. He and others noted. We are not seeing a rise in parttime work. In full time work. We hatch not seen the job creation. You want to increase job creation. Dont shut down the government for a month. Dont all most breach the debt ceiling. Dont reap fuse tax increases. Invest in infrastructure. There are incredibly direct, crucial, important ways we could create jobs right now. For folks who are interested in zero of them to talk about this bank shot are uhment being disproven by the data. It is such a cynical way to treat a jobs crisis. Washington has moved on from. It makes me fearous. David, are you still in the white house, how would you handle this website crisis of which there are two parts. One is the public discussion of it. And the management and the public discussion of it from the white house perspective. Then actually fixing the problem, which is of course the much more important part. That is the most important part of it. If i was in the white house. As im sure they are, kicking a bunch of folks in the butt every day to make sure that what need to be done is being done. I think they also need to be they need to beep for forthcomih the public. Report on a regular basis as the to the progress is being made. Problems that are being addressed. So people understand there is work underway. This has been shrouded in mystery. I dont quite understhand why that is. I think it is better to be straight forward about it. You know people, on the cover of the Washington Post today. Front paige of tge of the wash post, the website for common application. Has created great problems. Thats not a government issue. It seeks to the fact that some of this technology can get complex. The codes are difficult. And there are glitches. They need to fix it that. Need to be clear what theyre doing. And do it quickly. If i were in the white house, i would be communicating regularly on the mixes also would be very, very tough on the people who are responsible, to get those other times done quickly. Ezra klein, david axelrod. Thank you for joining me tonight. Thank you, lawrence. Alling up, the sea party is against the tea party. Later, the good night polling news for house and Senate Democrats and very bad news for the republicans in the election. And in the rewrite, 50 years ago today, here in washington, president kennedy gave a speech. It was about a topic that was not then controversial in the least. Built is now. So toxic from republicans. That they dont even want to talk about it. Later, well have the latest on the problems with the federal website for the Affordable Care act. Well have an expert here to tell them how to fix it [ male announcer ] united is rolling out global, satellitefed wifi to connect you even 35,000 feet over the ocean. Thats. Wifi friendly. Thats. Wifi friendly. Theyre the days to take care of business. When possibilities become reality. With centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary Cloud Infrastructure and Global Broadband network free you to focus on what matters. With Custom Communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. Every day of the week. Centurylink® your link to whats next. In the National Journal cover story about senator rand paul, the truthiness of rand paul, Jill Lawrence reports on a q a session the senator had in august at university of louisville, asked by the schools medal students if he had any advice for medical school exams. Here is what the junior senator from kentucky actually said. I never, ever, cheated. I dont condone cheating. But i would sometimes spread misinformation. This is a great tactic. Misinformation. We were in light braer studying for the path test. We knew what was on the test. Everything about liver. Vast majority of questions about liver. We tried to trick all of our competing students into overstudying for the liver and not studying for kidney and every other organ. Thats my advice. Misinformation works. I got nothing. Up next, Tea Party Versus the tea party. [ male announcer ] once, there was a man who found a magic seashell. It told him what was happening on the Trading Floor in real time. The shell brought him great fame. But then, one day, he noticed that everybody could have a magic seashell. [ indistinct talking ] [ male announcer ] right there in their Trading Platform. [ indistinct talking continues ] [ male announcer ] so the magic shell went back to being a. Shell. Get live squawks right in your Trading Platform with think or swim from td ameritrade. In 2010, according to the National Journal, rene elmers its more conservative than michele bachmann. The journal rates bachmann at 80 on the list of conservatives in the house of representatives. Based on just how conservative they really are. And rene elmers 43. Voted each and every team to defund Affordable Care act in the house. Elmers lost her Tea Party Darling status. Because she said this one of the things you have probably heard about in theed me ye in the media to use the continuing resolution to defund obama care. Thats a problem. Because the that is not where the funding for obama care is. The tea party was not impressed that what she said was absolutely true. The tea party did not want to hear that. And now, north carolinas News Observer reports, investor, radio personality frank roche recently announced he was challenge elmers in the gop primary and more republican opponents are expected to emerge. The intraparty opposition is driven by tea Party Activist whose helped send elmers to washington. In the end, elmers sided with the tea party and voted against raising the debt limit and reopening the government. She denies that her vote had anything to do with pressure from the tea party saying if anybody knows me, they know i dont vote one way or another to appease any special interest. The former speech writer, in the daily beast, the Republican Party is at war with itself. And as tempting as it might be for democrats to gloat from the side lines it is in awful our interests to make sure the tea party doesnt win. Joining me now, john favro, msnbc contributor, e. J. Deion. John, your your, your making the terms here in terms of beating the tea party pretty important. You talk about how in official washington decrying bipartisan is the real problem is a big mistake because you say the real problem is not the republicans, the real problem is the tea party period. Yes. This is the source of dysfunction in washington. And the debt limit shutdown fight showed us this better than anything we have seen yet. And, you know, john boehner and the republicans operate on fear of these rightwing primary challenges. As long as that fear is greater than the frustration that they feel from the majority of the american people, we are not going to get anything done. E. J. , what about the new polling showing how unpopular the tea party is. Shouldnt the republicans take some courage from that . When theyre staring down the tea party . I really do. In fact i wish they had before, before we had this useless, destructive shut down. The nbc poll if you compare the tea party at its peak in mid 2010, to, to where we are now. They have lost almost 40 of the people who once said they like them. So, this is a movement in big trouble. A movement on the run. The story you told right before we came on, they are just like the old far left. So, the tea party is in danger of sort of splitting into so many little pieces that they will disappear. I disagree with john very much. That the tea party represents something quite different from traditional conservatism. I have problems with traditional conservatism. It did believe in governing, what you saw out of the tea party and have seen a number of times. Their main desire is to blow up the liberal state. A real problem. There is nothing conservative. It is radicalism. The new cnn poll finds republicans and tea partiers with low ratings. Republican have 30 favorable. 64 . Tea party, 28 favorable. 56 unfavorable rating. John, the it seems like, i mean, is, is there something here, you say in your piece the tea party has to be fought. You really have to fight them. Democrats have to fight them. Is there any way to sit back and say theyre on a self destructive path . They are, the republicans have to exorcise the demon. All the common sense republicans, stood up, voted yes for this last compromise. The republicans in the senate voted for common sense immigration reform. All the other republicans who have put revenue on the table in the past. These republicans, if, their own political survival, at some point is going to depend on standing up to their own party. Standing up to the rightwing. E. J. , they seem to be finding voice in one thing which is direct by name criticisms of ted cruz. Well, i mean, the remarkable thing is how