passing me on the sidewalk. and she looked at me and i guess she knew how i was feeling. and she leaned over, as we crossed, and said, persevere. i would tell them to persevere. persevere >> joining us now, michele today goodwin, chancellor's professor at the university of california irvine school of law and podcast host. and -- walker, dean and professor at harvard school of law. professor goodwin, let me begin with you in that lesson we just heard in person -- the perseverance we saw today in these hearings. i'm going to let you have the cory booker moment. that microphone is yours.